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full member
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April 01, 2018, 05:18:24 PM
#53
Merit system will keep shit-posters stucked at their current ranks. In the future, when more and more campaigns require minimum number of merits to join, shit-posters will be eliminated somehow. When they can not join any campaign in the forum, they might leave and find others better places.
And you people really think that's good? To drive off, repel some people who are willing to join and work for the world of crypto? Do You really think crypto/blockchain tech have a future without "shit-posters", "rookies", "ignorant people", people who do not speak or write English well? If these people for any reason don't recognize their own interest in the alternative economy system, you'll end up selling pizzas to each other for 50M BTC.

Just try not to forget one thing: these people to whom you're laughing and whom you call "shit-posters" are precisely those who keep marketing wheels of the emerging crypto projects moving. If they didn't work for peanuts, promises of the newly forged coins, and possibilities of eventual payment in some new coins wannabee some very interesting coins would not exist today.

If "ignorant people" don't start to use crypto, there won't be any crypto in the future. You, "masters of the crypto world", will be selling each other worthless bytes in your Kingdom in the clouds.

Mass adoption is the mother of success of every human activity. And that requires masses.

Does anyone dare to publish the list of the members who have advanced to the next rank since the merit system has been introduced? Published or not, look at that list and think about the following: for how long will all the members of the community who are not on that list stick to the idea, talk nicely about the things that are going on here, try to attract new people, new work force, new "nodes", new customers, new users, or they will declare the idea "elitist", and walk away?

Be careful about what you wish for - you may get it. And please, please, be careful not to destroy and suffocate the blooming of the crypto world you've made possible with this forum.
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Merit: 102
xdice.io
April 01, 2018, 12:06:03 PM
#52
This Merit system has two sides one bad and second good.

Bad is that, what will happen with the people who are one or two week away from getting next RANK ?
Sucks to be them. Merit has hit hard on everyone and nobody is exempted from the effects. So there is nothing you can do about it except moving on.

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It is the same like Bounty managers asked users to do same tasks again as we lost spreadsheet.
This mentality of people in the forum needs to change. The sole reason some people come to bitcointalk everyday is to spam for bounties and shitpost. The fact you picked up this a reference shows that you are also one of them.

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Good is that, forum members will try to increase the quality of post.
Agreed and people are also ranking up.



What we can do is that start thread regarding this and ask Theymos to make some reliable rule for who are about to get next rank.


No, i am not one of them, you can check my previous posts.


legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 01, 2018, 02:04:07 AM
#51
This Merit system has two sides one bad and second good.

Bad is that, what will happen with the people who are one or two week away from getting next RANK ?
Sucks to be them. Merit has hit hard on everyone and nobody is exempted from the effects. So there is nothing you can do about it except moving on.

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It is the same like Bounty managers asked users to do same tasks again as we lost spreadsheet.
This mentality of people in the forum needs to change. The sole reason some people come to bitcointalk everyday is to spam for bounties and shitpost. The fact you picked up this a reference shows that you are also one of them.

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Good is that, forum members will try to increase the quality of post.
Agreed and people are also ranking up.

full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 102
xdice.io
April 01, 2018, 01:19:38 AM
#50
This Merit system has two sides one bad and second good.

Bad is that, what will happen with the people who are one or two week away from getting next RANK ?


It is the same like Bounty managers asked users to do same tasks again as we lost spreadsheet.


Good is that, forum members will try to increase the quality of post.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 155
March 31, 2018, 10:55:53 AM
#49
Yes, due to merit system, the general quality of threads in the forum rose.
Looks like that was your exactly target to earn a little bit of merits Roll Eyes
I would not say that the number of rubbish post increased, as you say, it is approximately at the same level. But the thing I really see is that the number of quality and helpful post really raised.

You are wrong! In my point of view, I don't like threads which attach oversized/ annoying images/ infographics. I think those ones are only needed for lazy users, who should not stay in our forum. All necessary stuffs have been presented clearly, transparently in the OP of its ANN (for example, with merit syste, its purposes, its rules, all of them mentioned in topic created by Theymos). I don't see any reason to have infographics to explain what merits are, what sMerits are and which functions they are in the circulation of merit system.

For those lazy users, leaving the forum is the best option, no need to create infographics for them, and invite them to watch.
Time ago I've seen different graphics and pictures with explanation of forum's rules or Blockchain or bitcoin really seldom, but now I see such post maybe every day and such posts really deserve to be merited, cause of they perform some ideas in fun and easy to understand form.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1001
March 31, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
#48
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
That is the thing that many people have done before in this forum and continues to this day, as the actual calculations have been much reduced. Now shitposting has begun to dwindle and now more and more people are motivated to make quality posts. They are all racing to contribute to the forum because it is one way to get merit. routine contribute will then train someone's ability to be a useful person. I think when we do not make shitposting then it is not a problem. Instinctively I will also do that, I will keep trying and always try to be able to contribute much better again.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
March 31, 2018, 10:28:36 AM
#47
Looks like that was your exactly target to earn a little bit of merits Roll Eyes
I would not say that the number of rubbish post increased, as you say, it is approximately at the same level. But the thing I really see is that the number of quality and helpful post really raised. Time ago I've seen different graphics and pictures with explanation of forum's rules or Blockchain or bitcoin really seldom, but now I see such post maybe every day and such posts really deserve to be merited, cause of they perform some ideas in fun and easy to understand form.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 155
March 31, 2018, 10:19:25 AM
#46
It's true. Shit posters will have less chance to receive merits due to their bad post history, but I think that if they keep continue changing their post quality to higher and higher day by day, then merits will come, some day over long period and intensive efforts to adapt to merit system. Finally, they will have almost clean post history like someone else.
No one have enough time to scan all post history to see how good a poster is.
Unfortunately if they ended up on a merit awarder's ignore list, then their change in posting quality will not be noticed. This means that it is still harder for them to gain merit than it is for a new member who starts off the right way.

Yeah. Based on your recommendations, if shit-posters follow them, we might see a new waves of newbies which come from spammers with new efforts to spam the forum, one more time.
Before you start polluting the boards, reflect on the long term damage that you are doing to your nice clean account.
member
Activity: 518
Merit: 38
March 31, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
#45
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
I agree with you, people on the forum don't want to try, instead of useful information, I see posts that were written a year ago and were copied into a new topic.
member
Activity: 368
Merit: 18
March 31, 2018, 08:02:46 AM
#44
Some users are making long posts but without substance. I think the whole point of the merit system is just to lessen  shitty posts not short posts. A post can be constructive without even being necesserily long.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
March 31, 2018, 07:55:35 AM
#43
The idea behind introducing the merit system was to enforce the users to post quality threads, encouraging them to engage with a conversation rather than making comments here and there for signature bounties.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

This was the whole idea.

So, instead of complaining about the system when not post something that will give value to the community.

If you care about the community then someday you will forget about everything and will land your hand for helping others and improving your personal developments. I been there by the way.

So, just chill  Smiley

Merit system= Rubbish posts = 0 merits
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Activity: 244
Merit: 17
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March 31, 2018, 07:14:13 AM
#42
Small part of them are trying to adapt by improving themselves to be better, more constructive. I think those users who changed this way are good for the forum, though they were spammers, shit-posters in the past. However, if they can change to be constructive users, it's good; then we can call them as ex-shit-posters, lol.

Unfortunately if they ended up on a merit awarder's ignore list, then their change in posting quality will not be noticed. This means that it is still harder for them to gain merit than it is for a new member who starts off the right way.

Before you start polluting the boards, reflect on the long term damage that you are doing to your nice clean account.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
March 31, 2018, 06:51:28 AM
#41
Merit created to prevent this kind of member and only shitposter are leaving this forum just because of Merit system. If you feel there are no chance for you to rank up, you can cheat the merit system if you want to, but I think you know the consequences of it Smiley
They are not leaving (I guess), they are trying to cheat the merit system. Small part of them are trying to adapt by improving themselves to be better, more constructive. I think those users who changed this way are good for the forum, though they were spammers, shit-posters in the past. However, if they can change to be constructive users, it's good; then we can call them as ex-shit-posters, lol.
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 22
Marketplace for sensor data
March 31, 2018, 05:32:46 AM
#40
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
I totally agree with you, with new Merit system nothing new happened, only people are leaving this forum, because it is almost impossible to get higher ranks  Cry
I think that you forgot something in your reply Smiley. It's not almost, it's totally impossible to rank up if you're just a shitposter and don't help anyone in this forum. Merit created to prevent this kind of member and only shitposter are leaving this forum just because of Merit system. If you feel there are no chance for you to rank up, you can cheat the merit system if you want to, but I think you know the consequences of it Smiley
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March 31, 2018, 05:24:23 AM
#39
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
I totally agree with you, with new Merit system nothing new happened, only people are leaving this forum, because it is almost impossible to get higher ranks  Cry
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Activity: 291
Merit: 20
I love my wife and my little girl
March 31, 2018, 04:32:37 AM
#38
Why? Would you mind explaining more about the idea.
I think merit system is good but it cannot be implemented well here.

In contrast, I have seen lots of meriters who has sent their sMerits away to so many deserved threads which published by different users in the forum.
Of course, there are merit farmers, but they will be punished with really strict punishments like this one:
More mass merit farming
Also i have seen people not so keen in giving merit to others and mostly merits are used for account farmers to help their accounts grow.
sr. member
Activity: 1002
Merit: 254
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March 31, 2018, 04:28:09 AM
#37
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 

I think merit system is good but it cannot be implemented well here. Also i have seen people not so keen in giving merit to others and mostly merits are used for account farmers to help their accounts grow.
member
Activity: 462
Merit: 14
March 31, 2018, 02:10:55 AM
#36
I think it is right time to lock the topic, which seems to be perfect place for spammers to get here and join discussions to increase their post-counts and ask for merits.
Simple and basic principle: Garbage in, garbage out! No need to discuss more. Rubbish was produced by shit-posters (most of the time, equals to spammers).
Merit system has not produced shits, spammers have did produced shits.
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 15
March 31, 2018, 01:36:38 AM
#36
Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
we no choice but to comply and meet their demands and standards
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
March 31, 2018, 01:29:18 AM
#35
You are missing a point!
They won't give up because they don't really have to rank up to higher levels to earn money from the forum with current rules.
Why is that?
If you have experienced enough in the forum, you would realize that signature payments for Member rank usually double of for Junior member rank. Yeah, that's the point, shit-posters don't have to try to rank up, they have another option, which seems to be better, more comfortable for them.
2 Junior member accounts instead of 1 Member account. That's enough. Keep posting shits and get money, instead of putting lots of real efforts to rank up and get the same amount of payments.
That's right, sooner or later those shit posters will eventually give up on making their way up to the rankings and will be forced to join social media campaigns as they will realized that they will not be happy on what they will earn on signature campaigns with their current ranks.

Merit system will keep shit-posters stucked at their current ranks. In the future, when more and more campaigns require minimum number of merits to join, shit-posters will be eliminated somehow. When they can not join any campaign in the forum, they might leave and find others better places.
The time since the new system has been implemented is not yet enough to eradicate all those members but we can see that it made a change significantly.
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