Topic: MESSAGE FROM GRAVITATE CASH OUT COINS NOW (Read 10288 times)

Indeed.  Trust on this forum is something too often not earned, and when earned not appreciated nearly enough.

Casascius vs everything else has a similar trajectory to Bitcoin's virgin birth vs all the shit that came afterwards.

The first is the purest. After that the vultures get a sniff of blood.

There are of course many solid makers of physical items but there's too much trust required and it's too obvious a temptation for the nefarious.

I have said may times. A hot wallet on a phone is not secure.
I have also said the said, a coin / or anything else that has a key that was not generated by you is also not secure.

Do you know where it's been? Do you know who produced the holograms? and how many were made? and if they are all accounted for?
How difficult would it be for a dishonest person at the printer to print out an extra roll of holograms, then buy the funded coins, peel copy the private key and paste them back on and sell them?

Even when you think you are secure you can still have other people do stupid things: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5280338

I actually have WAY more in funded collectables then I really feel comfortable with.
Everyone has their own risk tolerance and can make their own decisions.

But yeah, Gravitate is an ass.

-Dave

Jesus H. Christ...!!  

I had no idea about the length of gravitate's misdeeds as there was a period of time where I wasn't active on here and apparently that was when all of this was coming out of the woodwork. I had bought some MicroSoul 0.01s from him back in the day and IIRC there were some issues of sloppiness/delay in funding even then. But when I stumbled upon this thread tonight I was completely shocked and disgusted by his attitude towards his customers who had more than legitimate complaints! Just terrible man...  

It seems Casascius set the model in motion and then things have only gone downhill since then as the BTC price continued to increase and almost nobody else seemed to match the strength & caliber of morals & secure practices that Casascius himself had.

And by the way I'm not just necro-ing this old thread for nothing- when I started reading this thread and clicked on gravitate's profile it seems he was active on here just barely 2 months ago.

If I was one of the handful of members that is still royally screwed from his shenanigans I would seriously consider tracking him down from the couple people who have most recently spoken of his contact info. And he was a speaker or guest at some BTC conference or something after all of this mess it seems (see quote below)?? That sounds like a most unfortunate idea as well; someone of that nature should be blacklisted from the BTC community for Life. Who knows if/how many more people he was able to continue to scam after seemingly appearing at that conference and switching up to different forums/websites.

-snarlpill

If you have TG just message me @s1lverbox and lets talk.

I rather just provide you his details and you can just follow my steps to recovering some of funds.

My advice would be to peel all coins. Because first two rounds was guaranteed btc.
Convo with OP might be difficult but personally i wouldnot leave this that way, Every coin owner didnt do anything wrong so they should not pay the price for others mistakes.

Good luck all.

Thanks. There's too much distraction in this place. I can only apologise for not doing it sooner, as I've seen it pop up in my watch list and read the thread many times before today.

Well said Lauda.  The only thing I would add is he is also incompetent.

That will help in understanding and publishing his full name (pre or post the conference) online into lists of known scammers and frauds. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

After all this time I still don't quite understand his attitude to all this, whether he'd admitted to anything or what has actually occurred.

Either all the coins were created correctly in the first place which means he has no ongoing obligations and no need to throw teenage girl wobblies, or they weren't. It seems plenty weren't.

He is the victim? He's a degenerate French scamming wanker and he can fuck-off. Glad you got your money back, one less victim it is.

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Just created a flag if anyone cares about it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1119

Glad it ended well for you.

Could you ask him if he wouldn’t mind me contacting him.
I have 5 coins, haven’t peeled them yet.
One is with me at home, 3 are in a safe and not easily available (I have to take a plane and stay overnight) and the last one was gifted to my younger brother.

I will peel one, I could ask my brother to peel the 2nd one.
If none of them are funded, I would like to ask him if he could do something about it.

Would you be able to relay my request ?
Cheers

Quick update

After quick search thanks to user: vizique i found gravitate and exchanged few messages over TG
I got my BTC back which should be on the coins.

On top of what should be there OP acctually sent me little bit extra for that hassle.

My beef with him is over. I will post some screenshots to prove my words:

 




Convo is more about how he seems to be a victim. All in all got my 0.02btc which should be on the coins.

Good luck all.

msg me buddy about details. I will approach him. No issue for me. He did took broken priv keys and never got back to me. Hate scammers like that.

Considering what many have discovered there'd be far too much doubt for me to ever consider attempting to sell coins that appear to be funded. I'd peel them and sell them afterwards. No possibility for a grind then.

Gravitate does appear at CoinFest UK in Manchester in April next year if you needed to bring it up  with him directly.

Viz

I had a few of his 2014 coins that I purchased direct from him. The issue was that the private keys were not valid when trying to redeem. So despite the address showing the coins as funded, there was no way of actually redeeming the balance.
Not saying yours have the same issue but it’s not unlikely.

^^^

i still have many microsoul coins and they aren't peeled. and they gonna stay like that for quite some time

+1 for  Auction

Tbh there are plenty of non-peeled coins out there. You could always try an auction with the starting price set to
the minimum you’re willing to accept  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Beheadings on bitcointalk  

Id peel that crap in a heartbeat.