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Quote from: Orpichukwu on February 05, 2024, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

So there could be a possibility that some people have any of the above issues but are not necessarily restricted from the casino, so there might not be any problem for them to use the casino with VPN unless the casino is against the use of VPN.

It is better to ask the support whether VPN is allowed or not than assume that it would not give us a problem in the future even if we are not in the restricted region. The Tos clearly stated

Quote from: alankasman on February 09, 2024, 11:26:50 AM

The problem that can be felt when accessing sites using VPN is that traffic access is not very fast.
I experienced this when opening several gambling sites that required me to use a VPN to access.
The reasons people or players access betting sites are not the same. There are players who really have to use it and there are players who are used to it and feel comfortable with activating VPN.

Are you accessing the site with free vpn? they tend to cap the users connection to certain mbps or probably less than that. Aside from that it is not advisable to use free VPN because of several reasons. But regardless, the ToS clearly stated that VPN is not encouraged bytthe casino and warned that it may cause the player a problem.

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For players who are outside the prohibited list or areas that are not prohibited, it is better if they do not use a VPN.
Metawin really understands and continues to strive to provide comfort for players who are willing to comply with all terms and conditions (ToS)

It is better to be safe than sorry, so yeah better avoid using VPN while playing in Metawin.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on February 05, 2024, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

So there could be a possibility that some people have any of the above issues but are not necessarily restricted from the casino, so there might not be any problem for them to use the casino with VPN unless the casino is against the use of VPN.

The problem that can be felt when accessing sites using VPN is that traffic access is not very fast.
I experienced this when opening several gambling sites that required me to use a VPN to access.
The reasons people or players access betting sites are not the same. There are players who really have to use it and there are players who are used to it and feel comfortable with activating VPN.

For players who are outside the prohibited list or areas that are not prohibited, it is better if they do not use a VPN.
Metawin really understands and continues to strive to provide comfort for players who are willing to comply with all terms and conditions (ToS)

Thank you @Fivestar4everMVP for correcting my point above regarding prohibited areas.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 09, 2024, 08:59:54 AM

Quote from: Orpichukwu on February 05, 2024, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

There are some people who don't like accessing any casino or sites without making use of a VPN, not because they are in a restricted area, but because they just don't like it.

There are also times when I have tried accessing sites from my location, which I'm very sure I'm not restricted or banned from, but whenever I use a VPN, I browse on them freely.

If they will do that, at least they should be aware of the risk as getting an account locked due to a violation is not the fault of the gambling site. They have a regulators, and a set of rules coming from them has to be enforce by the gambling sites. It's fine to use VPN but it's not 100% safe IMO, so it would be "Do it on your own Risk".

Maybe before other people take a decision regarding on their like to use VPN for whatever reason they have much better if they ask their representative if they are allowed since I guess nothing wrong to use VPN if you are not in restricted country also the IP/country you use is also not have any issue with them.

But as been said nothing is safe unless they verify it and once they allowed then get word from them that they are VPN friendly then from that they can use it since they have the assurance of casino representative that they are fine with their clients to use that tool.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on February 05, 2024, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

There are some people who don't like accessing any casino or sites without making use of a VPN, not because they are in a restricted area, but because they just don't like it.

There are also times when I have tried accessing sites from my location, which I'm very sure I'm not restricted or banned from, but whenever I use a VPN, I browse on them freely.

If they will do that, at least they should be aware of the risk as getting an account locked due to a violation is not the fault of the gambling site. They have a regulators, and a set of rules coming from them has to be enforce by the gambling sites. It's fine to use VPN but it's not 100% safe IMO, so it would be "Do it on your own Risk".

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So there could be a possibility that some people have any of the above issues but are not necessarily restricted from the casino, so there might not be any problem for them to use the casino with VPN unless the casino is against the use of VPN.

This is fine if a casino will stand on their words... some will use this to the gambler's disadvantage, and will say you broke the TOS, your account will be subject for investigation...

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 05, 2024, 08:10:50 AM

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

There are some people who don't like accessing any casino or sites without making use of a VPN, not because they are in a restricted area, but because they just don't like it.

There are also times when I have tried accessing sites from my location, which I'm very sure I'm not restricted or banned from, but whenever I use a VPN, I browse on them freely.

So there could be a possibility that some people have any of the above issues but are not necessarily restricted from the casino, so there might not be any problem for them to use the casino with VPN unless the casino is against the use of VPN.

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Quote from: alankasman on February 05, 2024, 08:00:23 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on February 04, 2024, 08:27:07 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

~snip~

Nah, I overlooked your comment and I thought that you are telling that you can’t access the casino without the use of VPN. There’s no problem if you can access it using regular IP but of course you should always check the list of restricted country available on the ToS.

Ooo... That's why I read as if there was something wrong in the understanding between the two of us. But it's okay. That's a good move.

Metawin can be accessed without using a VPN and users who cannot access the casino platform without a VPN are likely as far as I know are outside the restricted area.

Thank you for responding. Let's enjoy the gaming experience.

Not outside, but inside, if I understand correctly, Metawin automatically blocks IP that is accessing the casino from a restricted area right.? So, if someone is inside an area where the casino have banned access to the platform, then such player must use VPN to change their IP location to one that is outside the restricted area, for them to be able to access the casino.

So, in the right way, that last sentence should be, "users who can not access the casinos without the use of VPN are likely inside a restricted area" and not outside it, those outside a restricted area should easily and effortlessly access the casino, whether they use VPN or not.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on February 04, 2024, 08:27:07 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

~snip~

Nah, I overlooked your comment and I thought that you are telling that you can’t access the casino without the use of VPN. There’s no problem if you can access it using regular IP but of course you should always check the list of restricted country available on the ToS.

Ooo... That's why I read as if there was something wrong in the understanding between the two of us. But it's okay. That's a good move.

Metawin can be accessed without using a VPN and users who cannot access the casino platform without a VPN are likely as far as I know are outside the restricted area.

Thank you for responding. Let's enjoy the gaming experience.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 02, 2024, 08:17:15 AM

Right, time can only tell, we have seen casinos that have signature campaigns here and look trusted and has somewhat gain reputation. But a single accusations and they didn't response to it like professionals, turn that casino upside down. But there are a lot of in the pandemic era cryptos that suddenly born and then part of signature campaigns and up to know they are running. So we will hope that Metawin will be in that category.

Well, after seeing OP engagement in this thread I think the first and most important thing for him is to be active and try to respond to each query and feedback. This is the first thing to engage customers plus the trust too. OP was last active on Feb 1st and seeing the engagement in this thread, he needs to log in daily and reply. The signature campaign will be secondary in this case.

Quote from: Wiwo on February 02, 2024, 11:49:35 AM

Sometimes VPN usage is seen as an illegal act, and even in my country, police get people arrested if they discover that you use vPN on their device and that is because VPN is mostly used by criminals who want to hide their location and identity, some times scammers are the users of the VPN but none the less, I don't think also that VPN users are all scammers because we still have some of the genuine VPN users who don't use it to commit any crime.

Yes, not all VPN users are scammers but if we look at the terms for this casino, they discourage the use of VPN, so whoever wants to access this site must not use VPN and stay safe from anything wrong with his account.

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Quote from: MetaWin_Official on February 01, 2024, 10:48:17 AM

Hi iv4n - yes, the lack of welcome bonus/no deposit bonus is certainly something we have considered. Reality is, with our focus on web3 and the frictionless wallet signup, any deposit/welcome bonus would be abused immediately - this would then force us to work with wagering requirements, withdrawal restrictions, account bans or similar to manage the impact. All things which we believe do not contribute to a great experience for most players.

Instead we focus on providing the best web3 experience, along with monthly tournaments, daily reel races and free-to-enter competitions that directly reward loyal players.

Thanks for the nice explanation, I believe that all sorts of bonuses can make a real mess, too many people like to abuse them. I guess it can be even trickier with wallet signups, I didn't think about that.

Focusing on directly rewarding loyal players is a good thing for sure. I like the way your casino looks so I will probably join and try to win some prizes. I wish you lots of luck and success!

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Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on February 01, 2024, 07:29:28 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 01, 2024, 06:51:11 AM

It looks very good indeed. The most convenient thing is that the web runs smoothly without any obstacles and does not require a VPN to access. This will be the first fun experience when players register an account before getting other experiences while playing.

Being unable to access the casino using your regular IP without VPN only means that your country is geo restricted on the casino. It’s not an inconvenience but rather it’s the law that stopping to play on this casino.

Probably this casino still not meet the requirements for the license to operate on your country. Don’t insist to play on a casino if your IP is restricted and better to check the casino ToS to confirm if your country is not restricted before you use VPN just to access the casino because normally casino doesn’t require VPN for you to access it. They set that parameters to protect their business away by offering it to restricted clients for legality purposes.

Regarding other limitations and prohibitions contained in the ToS, I have read it several times. But I don't understand what you mean because I didn't experience any problems at all when accessing the metawin site without using a VPN.
The smoothness of accessing the Metawin site from the first time I registered until today is still fine so I had a pleasant experience.

If you can clarify your meaning regarding what you have said above, I would really appreciate it.

Nah, I overlooked your comment and I thought that you are telling that you can’t access the casino without the use of VPN. There’s no problem if you can access it using regular IP but of course you should always check the list of restricted country available on the ToS.

Casino ToS sometimes doesn’t state their stand regarding the use of VPN that’s why it’s important to know by yourself if your country is restricted playing online casino you enter one because many players knew their country restrictions yet they are still risk playing using VPN just to hide their restricted IP.

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Quote from: Wiwo on February 02, 2024, 11:49:35 AM

Sometimes VPN usage is seen as an illegal act, and even in my country, police get people arrested if they discover that you use vPN on their device and that is because VPN is mostly used by criminals who want to hide their location and identity, some times scammers are the users of the VPN but none the less, I don't think also that VPN users are all scammers because we still have some of the genuine VPN users who don't use it to commit any crime.

Where do you live that there are such a brutal laws in your country? Do you post from North Korea or Iran? There are ways to hide VPN usage by using an obfuscated servers. When you use regular VPN, your hide your activity from your ISP but your ISP still knows that you are using a VPN but obfuscated VPN servers allow you to bypass internet restrictions while your VPN traffic looks like a regular internet traffic and your ISP has no idea that you are using it. One can use Tor bridges for that too. But if there is a jail in your country for VPN usage, you have to know exactly what you do to don't get in trouble.

Quote from: serjent05 on February 02, 2024, 02:31:10 PM

So if someone doesn't want any future trouble while playing on Metawin, they better forget about using VPN on their gameplay.

That's a good advice.

Quote from: alankasman on February 03, 2024, 06:17:14 AM

If access to the Metawin site without using VPN can be done, I don't think I have a plan to use VPN unless I have been required to use VPN.
The possibility is true if they use VPN to hide their gambling activities.

You are never required by casino or any other company to use VPN, it's usually prohibited but sometimes many companies and casinos give you the room to protect your privacy and allow you VPN usage.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 02, 2024, 04:59:12 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

Regarding other limitations and prohibitions contained in the ToS, I have read it several times. But I don't understand what you mean because I didn't experience any problems at all when accessing the metawin site without using a VPN.

Most of the gambling sites won't allow you to use a VPN but if the MetaWin allows it then there is no harm in accessing the site using a VPN but then again i don't understant why would anyone be willing to use VPN unless he is trying to access from a prohibted location or maybe the person wants to hide his gambling activites from an ISP (and the local governments).

If access to the Metawin site without using VPN can be done, I don't think I have a plan to use VPN unless I have been required to use VPN.
The possibility is true if they use VPN to hide their gambling activities.

Quote from: Poker Player on February 01, 2024, 12:08:36 AM

What I found a bit uncomfortable is that to log in they have to send me a link to my email every time, I guess that's because I don't use metamask.

Hi @Poker Player. I want to clarify about the email inbox which at any time gets a delivery of messages from Metawin. Two days ago I said that my email inbox was always quiet, it turned out that at that time I opened a private email instead of an email registered at Metawin and several other gambling platforms so that no incoming messages were sent every day.

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Quote from: Wiwo on February 02, 2024, 11:49:35 AM

Sometimes VPN usage is seen as an illegal act, and even in my country, police get people arrested if they discover that you use vPN on their device and that is because VPN is mostly used by criminals who want to hide their location and identity, some times scammers are the users of the VPN but none the less, I don't think also that VPN users are all scammers because we still have some of the genuine VPN users who don't use it to commit any crime.

With regards of the usage of VPN Metawin has a clear stand about it which is stated in clause 18.1.8

Quote from: https://metawin.com/games/terms-and-conditions/

18.1.8. You attempt to use your Customer Account through a VPN, proxy or similar service that masks or manipulates the identification of your real location, or by otherwise providing false or misleading information regarding your citizenship, location or place of residence, or by playing Games using the Platform through a third party or on behalf of a third party;

and is deemed fraudulent which is stated in clause 1.4 . If I am not mistaken, I understand the clause that using a VPN will result in an account ban.

Quote from: https://metawin.com/games/terms-and-conditions/

1.4. Fraudulent Conduct– means any of the conduct described in clause 18.

So if someone doesn't want any future trouble while playing on Metawin, they better forget about using VPN on their gameplay.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 02, 2024, 08:17:15 AM

I guess for experience gamblers, we shouldn't used VPN in the first place. If it is prohibited by the casinos and it's clearly on their ToS, then we shouldn't violate it simply as that as it might give you problems in the future.

If we don't have something to hide, we should not use VPN because benefit is less than potential risk and damage on our account and money.

By saying "something to hide", I don't imply that users use VPN are bad users but they must know about risk of casino's suspicious activity detection, and if they don't want to have problem with it, they will be careful with VPN.

If they care about privacy, want to use VPN, make sure they don't store big money in their account. It's their prevention for something bad happens and they fail with their appeal.

Sometimes VPN usage is seen as an illegal act, and even in my country, police get people arrested if they discover that you use vPN on their device and that is because VPN is mostly used by criminals who want to hide their location and identity, some times scammers are the users of the VPN but none the less, I don't think also that VPN users are all scammers because we still have some of the genuine VPN users who don't use it to commit any crime.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on February 01, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

You have a good graphics and user experience is what I can not say much about because I had to load and reload the website on several occasions and still yet battling to get registered on your casino platform. I am very much sure my country is not in your restricted list because I can access the website without VPN which makes me comfortable to continue with the registration but still yet I am having issues to open the registration form. I think you have to look into this and resolve any possible error within your end.

That problem with your website visit's probably got something to do with the Internet provider you've got, I think that it could be the cause for your experience and I think you can ask them about that, it's probably an ISP thing. They're also a fairly new website so they might be at an advantage to be able to bypass the ban list for some countries so keep that in mind because that can be a potential problem for you in the future. Have you tried it on your other devices too? That can be a helpful thing for you to see if the problem is on your end or their end.

Well I do not think my country is on the ban list neither is it prohibited from gambling sites but however, I think it has to do with the network provider from my end here as I now have access to the casino website. Possibly the other day, the issue was as a result of poor network coverage which I believe must have been resolved. Thank you for your feedback.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 02, 2024, 08:17:15 AM

I guess for experience gamblers, we shouldn't used VPN in the first place. If it is prohibited by the casinos and it's clearly on their ToS, then we shouldn't violate it simply as that as it might give you problems in the future.

If we don't have something to hide, we should not use VPN because benefit is less than potential risk and damage on our account and money.

By saying "something to hide", I don't imply that users use VPN are bad users but they must know about risk of casino's suspicious activity detection, and if they don't want to have problem with it, they will be careful with VPN.

If they care about privacy, want to use VPN, make sure they don't store big money in their account. It's their prevention for something bad happens and they fail with their appeal.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 02, 2024, 03:58:26 AM

I think every casino has went into this kind of journey and process in the beginning, they are not supposedly to be trusted and there are a lot of regulars gamblers and not so regular members who attack casinos specially in the boom of 2020's. But some of them are still here with us and now they have gain the trust and reputation of the community. So give Metawin some time, competition in the Web3 platform is heating us so it's going to be a good one and see who's going to survived in the next couple of years.

Yes, this is true in most cases as when a new casino is introduce people do not trust it initailly and even a one or two bad reviews can damage the reputation considerablly. Even if the review or scam accusation is false againist a new casino., people tend to be very careful in depositing in those new casino. But it is only a matter of time as the honest and trusted sites will soon be reconized by the gamblers as they play and depoists on those sites.

Right, time can only tell, we have seen casinos that have signature campaigns here and look trusted and has somewhat gain reputation. But a single accusations and they didn't response to it like professionals, turn that casino upside down. But there are a lot of in the pandemic era cryptos that suddenly born and then part of signature campaigns and up to know they are running. So we will hope that Metawin will be in that category.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 02, 2024, 04:59:12 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

Regarding other limitations and prohibitions contained in the ToS, I have read it several times. But I don't understand what you mean because I didn't experience any problems at all when accessing the metawin site without using a VPN.

Most of the gambling sites won't allow you to use a VPN but if the MetaWin allows it then there is no harm in accessing the site using a VPN but then again i don't understant why would anyone be willing to use VPN unless he is trying to access from a prohibted location or maybe the person wants to hide his gambling activites from an ISP (and the local governments).

I guess for experience gamblers, we shouldn't used VPN in the first place. If it is prohibited by the casinos and it's clearly on their ToS, then we shouldn't violate it simply as that as it might give you problems in the future.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 02, 2024, 03:58:26 AM

I think every casino has went into this kind of journey and process in the beginning, they are not supposedly to be trusted and there are a lot of regulars gamblers and not so regular members who attack casinos specially in the boom of 2020's. But some of them are still here with us and now they have gain the trust and reputation of the community. So give Metawin some time, competition in the Web3 platform is heating us so it's going to be a good one and see who's going to survived in the next couple of years.

Yes, this is true in most cases as when a new casino is introduce people do not trust it initailly and even a one or two bad reviews can damage the reputation considerablly. Even if the review or scam accusation is false againist a new casino., people tend to be very careful in depositing in those new casino. But it is only a matter of time as the honest and trusted sites will soon be reconized by the gamblers as they play and depoists on those sites.

Quote from: alankasman on February 02, 2024, 04:23:19 AM

Regarding other limitations and prohibitions contained in the ToS, I have read it several times. But I don't understand what you mean because I didn't experience any problems at all when accessing the metawin site without using a VPN.

Most of the gambling sites won't allow you to use a VPN but if the MetaWin allows it then there is no harm in accessing the site using a VPN but then again i don't understant why would anyone be willing to use VPN unless he is trying to access from a prohibted location or maybe the person wants to hide his gambling activites from an ISP (and the local governments).

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Quote from: Coin_trader on February 01, 2024, 07:29:28 AM

Quote from: alankasman on February 01, 2024, 06:51:11 AM

It looks very good indeed. The most convenient thing is that the web runs smoothly without any obstacles and does not require a VPN to access. This will be the first fun experience when players register an account before getting other experiences while playing.

Being unable to access the casino using your regular IP without VPN only means that your country is geo restricted on the casino. It’s not an inconvenience but rather it’s the law that stopping to play on this casino.

Probably this casino still not meet the requirements for the license to operate on your country. Don’t insist to play on a casino if your IP is restricted and better to check the casino ToS to confirm if your country is not restricted before you use VPN just to access the casino because normally casino doesn’t require VPN for you to access it. They set that parameters to protect their business away by offering it to restricted clients for legality purposes.

Regarding other limitations and prohibitions contained in the ToS, I have read it several times. But I don't understand what you mean because I didn't experience any problems at all when accessing the metawin site without using a VPN.
The smoothness of accessing the Metawin site from the first time I registered until today is still fine so I had a pleasant experience.

If you can clarify your meaning regarding what you have said above, I would really appreciate it.

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Quote from: ultrloa on February 02, 2024, 03:22:10 AM

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Quote from: MetaWin_Official on January 29, 2024, 12:25:04 PM

Hi Slow death - thanks for highlighting these reviews, and for the comments re our design, much appreciated! Unfortunately, as mentioned by other users already, we do get a lot of spam reviews on the Trustpilot page! I would recommend to check comments on our X (Twitter) account to get some real feedback from our user base.

Well, first of all, you may find a few spam reviews on trust pilot but if the site is trusted the majority of the views will be good ones. Yes i understand that some companies may pay for the positive reviews in trust pilot which is wrong. Anyways if we only check the reviews at Twitter than that also may not reflect the true picture because a company can easily delete the unwanted tweets and replies. I would rather be more interested in this ANN thread and what people say about this site (bitcointalk ANN threads). As most of the reviews here are true and not manipulated.

Sometimes I ignore trustpilot for some reason since we can't get clear feedback since as said it can be bombarded with lot of spams and we don't know if that reviews written came from legitimate people or not. That's why its more interesting to read the review came from this forum since anyone can't manipulate the feedback given to the casino since we can see the real people posting their experiences or what they notice on how a casino perform.

I do agree, trustpilot most of the time as with regards with their reviews on gaming sites seems to be not reliable. So it either be that those who put the review is being paid by the competitor itself or just spamming the website with bogus reviews.

Quote from: ultrloa on February 02, 2024, 03:22:10 AM

But so far Metawin still doing great so I guess people would like to see more from them especially that they are new here and people want to see some good competition stuff since it will be beneficial for them if casino gives or release a lot of promotions to entertain their gamblers.

I think every casino has went into this kind of journey and process in the beginning, they are not supposedly to be trusted and there are a lot of regulars gamblers and not so regular members who attack casinos specially in the boom of 2020's. But some of them are still here with us and now they have gain the trust and reputation of the community. So give Metawin some time, competition in the Web3 platform is heating us so it's going to be a good one and see who's going to survived in the next couple of years.

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