Topic: MetaWin.com | The First WEB3 Casino - page 22. (Read 15081 times)

Yes, that's why I make exceptions and am not against anything as long as it benefits the casino. By the way, thanks for the more detailed explanation above.

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No, that's just my personal opinion based on observations. Many users are only interested in various bonuses, but they will gamble more often at their favorite casino than at other casinos. But I am not against anything if the decision is mutually beneficial to each other (the casino & its customers) and with that the casino will get more attention.

Let's just collect the feedback, I think the rules might be changing. No need to rush everything.

If they listened or received a lot of feedback, could have some changes or updates. Many ways to make the promotion is not only for high roller but also for small gambler, and hopefully, they can make some adjustments. Or we need to see the result on 2nd VIP Tranfer first, to give them some result (If the promotion getting a good result or not). In the future transfer could be not having a hard rules only for high roller.

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Still support their decision for right now........ GL for people who participated.

This promotion isn't for all kinds of VIP users, they have made it for only a small group of gamblers who are prepared to spend a good amount within a short time. I would like to address it as 'high roller transfer' instead of 'VIP transfer'.

MetaWin team had made a mistake by completely giving away free money in the first round. They had kept the door open for abusers during then. Abuser activity decrease more than 95% when a casino attach deposit requirement with a promotion. But such high deposit requirement isn't suitable for a universal VIP transfer program.

Can we use the new title please?

Your point is valid to be honest. I think they consider much the result of the previous VIP transfer and focus on safer bonus approach for them and at the same time attract high rollers for an 80% insurance of their bankroll.

I think the bonus will always effective psychologically speaking since eligible users can play less pressure thinking that they have a guaranteed 80% bankroll insured no matter what happened to their game.

Let’s see what will be the reaction of players for this new reward format.

I didn't even realize it's "just" cashback, that makes the promo even more unattractive. Sure it's a nice way to play "risk free" if you can only lose 20% of your deposit but if you are actually winning then it's like this promo never happened.
The casino also has 0 risk, which is also a weak sign. No risk, no reward they always say. They want to play it safe but this is too safe I think.

They could/should have taken a different approach, but chose this one. Not sure though if it was the right decision.

Actually the first VIP transfer is too much appealing compared to the current version because they gave cash based on the VIP level of players which many users abused. Metawin notice that few account dominates the withdrawal from the VIP transfer which only means there’s an abuse.

Right now, the rewards for VIP transfers is in a form of cashback which is still good since it’s 80% which no casino ever offer this high. The highest cashback I saw was 50% but the usual offer was 20%.

I think the current rewards is balance for both players and casino.

Possibly because the team felt overwhelming with a first wave of program and feared that their budget will be exploited while their business won't get too much benefit from it. To avoid potential exploitation, they stopped the program for further internal consideration.

It seems I missed it that possibly is not related directly to the program.

Yes, I think the main reason the first launch was stopped was because the flow wasn’t perfect. This time, they have made corrections and adjustments to make it more appealing and ensure that it’s a win-win for both Metawin and the VIP gamblers.

For who were not able to follow, reasons why it was stopped before can be found  here.

The VIP transfer program was reopened some days ago and this is a second wave of this program. The first wave was closed after several days or couple of weeks, with questions and regrets from people who did not know about it and were to late for migration to MetaWin.

By relaunch this program, I believe MetaWin team already analyzed results from the first wave of VIP migration very carefully and saw good results from it. I am not sure whether there are changes in the program policy than the first wave, but perhaps I believe they made some policy adjustment on it to make sure this wave of migration is more efficiently and beneficial for their platform as well as risk reduction.

The scenario he mentioned might provably happen and its normal since we cannot erase the fact that there are people will just take advantage on the promotion given then leave. But also for sure there are lots of people will stay and think about what other things they can enjoy on Metawin.

So far they had great engagement on their post towards VIP transfer is open https://x.com/Meta_Winners/status/1831359363564650622 so with the activities happen on that post and shares made by people, for sure there are lot of gamblers got notified that there's good promotion is currently running here.

Are you saying this because you have done a study on the subject? There will be some who will just do what you say, while others will try the site and stay. It is well known that giving promotions and free stuff increases the clientele and the revenue in the medium term, and if MW has made this move surely they have studied it, although as in any business move you could be wrong but I don't think so.


I agree.

Doesn't matter.

At least they have a flow activity betting. You should take a look at the bright sight, do you think they will always winning? no the user need to be lucky 50-100x meanwhile casino only needs lucky 1x until the user deposits more money. User who come to other casino from their favorite casino is always attract for the bonus first. If they not attract by the bonus, it's hard to make them move.

BTW, casino doesn't care about the flow activity from deposit - withdraw. They're care with:
1. New Base User
2. All time summary of their account based deposit & withdraw (did the user lose or win), but we know higher chance is on lose situation.

It's just my two cent, but more prefer with deposit summary rather than 3x deposit with total 5,000-10,000$. It's gonna to bring a more new base user, IMO we are gonna see the end first to seeing the result. It's the promo bring a lot attention or not, If not we sure gonna to have another transfer again with less more easy rules.

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Or perhaps, add more promotion in the requirement. Highroller who can finish 5,000-10,000 with 3 deposit get higher bonus but for user who can finish 5,000-10,000 with sumarry deposit 1 month get bonus too (with less than the promotion with 3x deposit). Win & win solution for all gambler.

It really feels like we're not the target market of this VIP Transfer 2. This is most likely for high rollers or whale as you mentioned. Maybe you can try to recommend this to others that you know high roller, I know you have contact to the one who have settled his 7,000,000$ on bc.game, maybe you can contact him to try this one. (Don't take this serious just a recommendation).

Please note that just in case your VIP transfer application declined;

On the one hand this kind of scenario will attract interest in depositing, but on the other hand you will get users who are only interested in bonuses instead of gamblers who gamble naturally. Deposit-withdraw activity will increase, while the average of them only bets 1x with a drink bet before withdrawing and repeating until they qualify. I don't think this is what Metawin was hoping for, but it's up to them on the best approach to grow user interest.

Too bad they but this high min deposit, for me this is too high. Not only would I have to organize the money ( buy crypto) it is also a high ask to instant deposit this much as a new player. Trust on a site gets built over time, that’s why I never start this high on any site, even stake.

I am platinum 6 on stake with over 7 million wagered, also high platinum on bc with a lot of wager in only a half year. Really was hoping to use this promo but unfortunately these stipulations are too high for me, too bad.

Hope you can catch some whales with this promo though, good luck!!

+1 It's too high.

They can use the system from 'BK8' of their promotion, which is based total deposit with certainly time maybe one month with a total 5,000-10,000$. Casino have waggering 1x for deposit of user they're made. Basically, users can reach these numbers of 5,000-10,000$ without owning (10,000$). In my opinion, 5-10K with just total 3 deposit is really high.

Better, just created one month time line without any limitation of deposit to reach those number. Some people/user might be failed,  but at least "METAWIN" will receive the flow transaction deposit on their platform.

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Why you need to chase only high roller, while these one can be archive to all gambler (small or high roller). Quite simple, created a system:
- Total Deposit 5,000$ - 10,000.
- Summary Deposit with 1 Month.

In this term, I can participate with any amount of money. No need to worry deposit-withdraw-deposit-withdraw cause casino have system 1x waggering (user can't withdraw if not passed the waggering). These can be lured user to deposit too, not only for high roller but small player.

Agree to what you have been said. But this promotion is for VIP's so what they want to lure are those gambler who usually spend a lot of money on other casino. They have done the first round of this promotion and provably it didn't end up well for them since they encounter lots of abuse at that time. So right now they put those requirements to determine their target also to avoid encounter issue regarding those people who usually take advantage on promotions which doesn't have much requirements asked.

But since they offer generous cashback I guess that's good enough for VIP transferee to try and earn some benefits of this program. They have lots of promotions done intended for all and I guess those promotions could attract small players, but for now they target those big fish to transfer in their casino.

Yes the requirement to be eligible for the new VIP program is too high for small to medium players so I have to agree that the target is to attract high rollers only.
Even if the requirement is reduced like to $1000 for the first 3 deposit, I dont think not many users especially from this forum who will be willing to participate including myself LOL.
Well, it is reasonable if a casino wants to attract highrollers more than small players because, maybe I'll do the same if I own a casino but I think I will also give chance to small-medium players by reducing the requirement as well as with adjusted offers/bonuses.

Most of the user will deny the second chance here. The 'VIP Transfer Season 2' isn't really attractive. They have offered a generous cashback, but the requirement is too high. The sum of the next 3 deposits need to be $5k to be eligible for this offer. They have focused on the high roller through this transfer program. The requirement isn't going to attract low to medium bankroll gamblers.