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Are you worried it's too late to buy Bitcoin (CRYPTO: BTC)? Although the pace of some of the cryptocurrency's previous run-ups may be difficult to match, there is still plenty of room for it to grow. But just how much?

If you believe Michael Saylor, the outspoken chief of MicroStrategy (NASDAQ: MSTR), the answer is a whole lot. Known for his bold and fearless Bitcoin advocacy, Saylor isn't shy about setting high price targets. His latest? That Bitcoin will reach $13 million by 2045 -- a potential gain of 18,600% from today's price.

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Under Saylor's direction, the company made Bitcoin a core part of its business. MicroStrategy began as a software company -- it still is one -- but in 2020 it began amassing a reserve of Bitcoin as a central strategy for growth. It now owns about 250,000 bitcoins valued at more than $16 billion. The company spent just under $10 billion buying them -- a pretty nice deal. Investors appear to believe this is a winning strategy; the stock is up nearly 2,000% since the Bitcoin buying began despite the company's software revenue barely growing since then.


Michael Saylor will buy more bitcoins, because the price of bitcoins will increase as time goes by. Michael Saylor estimates that he will hold bitcoins until 2045. He wants to get the most benefits by holding more bitcoins. According to him, there is still plenty of opportunity to hold bitcoins, so if an investor wants to hold bitcoins, you can certainly hold them at this time.

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I personally think that it is Saylor's job to not exaggerate his strategy, so to understate it and to give conservative that are more likely to be outperformed rather than overly bullish numbers that end up being wrong and underperform.
I think he is no longer moving with the DCA strategy in buying bitcoin but more forced to make himself more famous with Holding BTC. The cash flow budget has become a problem because he dared to take the option to take debt in order to buy Bitcoin. I believe Saylor should think carefully, although so far the company's performance has improved but he is not reckless to have more BTC by taking lots of loans.

But I don't know I'm not very good at corporate strategy because so far I have seen that microstrategy company has become a bitcoin holding company because it continues to buy bitcoin every year. So in your opinion, will the strategy taken by Saylor have a bad impact if the price of bitcoin drops drastically again or returns to $30k. Even though it's just an assumption, he has to think about it.

I think that Saylor's strategy goes much beyond your attempted level of analysis, and sure the BTC price could go down from here, could go below the 200-WMA.. could go below his average cost per BTC and/or could go way beyond expectations.. .. and so there are various ways to deal with negative BTC prices.... which includes likely making sure that any debt can still be serviced. and there may or may not be abilities to continue to buy more bitcoin under such downward scenarios depending on how far it goes down, what reasons there might be for it going down and/or how long it might stay down in the doldrums, yet I doubt that MSTR and/or Saylor have failed/refused to account for such negative possible scenarios.
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I personally think that it is Saylor's job to not exaggerate his strategy, so to understate it and to give conservative that are more likely to be outperformed rather than overly bullish numbers that end up being wrong and underperform.
I think he is no longer moving with the DCA strategy in buying bitcoin but more forced to make himself more famous with Holding BTC. The cash flow budget has become a problem because he dared to take the option to take debt in order to buy Bitcoin. I believe Saylor should think carefully, although so far the company's performance has improved but he is not reckless to have more BTC by taking lots of loans.

But I don't know I'm not very good at corporate strategy because so far I have seen that microstrategy company has become a bitcoin holding company because it continues to buy bitcoin every year. So in your opinion, will the strategy taken by Saylor have a bad impact if the price of bitcoin drops drastically again or returns to $30k. Even though it's just an assumption, he has to think about it.
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MicroStrategy Company Our focus remains to increase value generated to our shareholders by leveraging the digital transformation of capital. Today, we are announcing a strategic goal of raising $42 billion of capital over the next 3 years, comprised of $21 billion of equity and $21 billion of fixed income securities, which we refer to as our “21/21 Plan.” As a Bitcoin Treasury Company, we plan to use the additional capital to buy more bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset in a manner that will allow us to achieve higher BTC Yield,” said Phong Le, President and Chief Executive Officer, MicroStrategy.

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BTC Yield” KPI: Year-to-date 2024, the Company’s BTC Yield is 17.8%. The Company is revising its long-term target to achieve an annual BTC Yield of 6% to 10% between 2025 and 2027. BTC Yield is a key performance indicator (“KPI”) that the Company uses to help assess the performance of its strategy of acquiring bitcoin in a manner the Company believes is accretive to shareholders. See “Important Information about BTC Yield KPI” in this press release for the definition of BTC Yield and how it is calculated.

Source link: https://www.microstrategy.com/press/microstrategy-announces-third-quarter-2024-financial-results-and-announces-42-billion-capital-plan_10-30-2024


MicroStrategy company's Bitcoin collection mileage is very deep, because they are collecting Bitcoins exactly as they want. They have created a few steps to buy bitcoin using their strategy that someone released in Q3 and it is very transparent. However, their target will accumulate bitcoins in this way for years to come, and the bitcoin accumulation can reap benefits several times the original asset amount
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I try not to be a MSTR hater, but Saylor sometimes comes off as a degenerate gambler in regards to figuring out how much is enough.. and nothing seems to be enough, and he wants to double the bitcoin holdings of the company in a relatively short period of time... .. and gosh at some point is he going to end up "overdoing it?"
The point in that whole presentation is that he raised the bar as far as BTC YIELD is concerned.
This is the only way to keep the MSTR valuation so high.
I tried to short MSTR, but i hurt myself and now I am flipped. MS can succeed.
It's not a "poor man BTC ETF" it's a "poor man BTC Hedge Fund".
With all the respect and consideration that I have for both of you, I have to tell you that I think you have taken a dislike to MSTR and it is hard for you to see the big picture. I have seen the entire presentation and in it he explains why the company is much more than a company that has bitcoin in its treasuries. They have been working on bitcoin developments for a long time now, such as LN for companies, which if I remember correctly I posted a video about here.

And there is no need to take it as bitcoin vs MSTR. I personally have much more bitcoin than MSTR shares but I find it an interesting option.

Did anyone see that Microsoft shareholders are going to vote on whether to buy bitcoin? That wasn't even considered a few years ago, and if they are voting on it now it's mainly because of Saylor.

I am not against their strategy, if that is what they want to do and their investors too.

Their level of aggressiveness just makes me nervous, and I don't invest in bitcoin-related stocks anyhow.  I am perfectly fine, personally, sticking with BTC, and I have no problem with people choosing to allocate some or a lot of their investment into MSTR rather than bitcoin.  That is their choice, and I would not even bet against MSTR, since I think that Saylor is very smart and quite able to sell his seemingly cheat code (leveraging on the weakness of the dollar and dollar based debt systems relative to bitcoin) strategy as being a good one... it is just a bit nervous making for me in regards to his doubling and tripling down and even his outright challenge to other companies (and even governments) regarding the outright boldness of his strategy to accumulate all of the bitcoin that also plays on bitcoin's game theory that suggests the sooner you get into bitcoin the better, whether you are an individual, an institution and/or a government, and so those who diddly-dally in their getting into bitcoin are going to have their lunch eaten by bitcoin and also MSTR.. . .and it still makes me nervous to see him doing it, even though it seems a likely winning strategy... I am good enough (personally) not leveraging debt and even just ongoingly going long on bitcoin which surely personally, I am in a good position and even advantaged by people who bet long (and leverage) their bitcoin (as long as they don't get recked and maybe I am still advantaged even if they do end up getting reckt). 

The more I look at the presentation, the more bullish I become on MSTR.

They are becoming a BTC Hedge fund, intending to measure their performance in terms of BTC yield.

I did some computation about their potential growth, and they actually underestimated their BTC YIELD.

So, I am now more bullish than MS on this strategy.
When I am wrong, I am ready to admit it.

I personally think that it is Saylor's job to not exaggerate his strategy, so to understate it and to give conservative that are more likely to be outperformed rather than overly bullish numbers that end up being wrong and underperform.
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The more I look at the presentation, the more bullish I become on MSTR.

They are becoming a BTC Hedge fund, intending to measure their performance in terms of BTC yield.

I did some computation about their potential growth, and they actually underestimated their BTC YIELD.

So, I am now more bullish than MS on this strategy.
When I am wrong, I am ready to admit it.


What you said is quite right, The presentation which includes mstr's success in its best performance this year. Regardless of the move made by MS I believe investors will benefit from the hedge in BTC yields.

The next move that saylor will make is to move full throttle to buy more BTC. I think he will go crazy on BTC and that is what is called complete loyalty to the main principle of holding BTC.
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The more I look at the presentation, the more bullish I become on MSTR.

They are becoming a BTC Hedge fund, intending to measure their performance in terms of BTC yield.

I did some computation about their potential growth, and they actually underestimated their BTC YIELD.

So, I am now more bullish than MS on this strategy.
When I am wrong, I am ready to admit it.

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Fascinating what Saylor is doing, he is taking a big risk in the eyes of traditional investors but he might just be a generational mind, an elite thinker. If, as expected Bitcoin continues to rise in price over the next 20 years, MSTR are very quickly going to become one of the biggest companies in the world. I’m just shocked that many others haven’t followed his lead.
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I try not to be a MSTR hater, but Saylor sometimes comes off as a degenerate gambler in regards to figuring out how much is enough.. and nothing seems to be enough, and he wants to double the bitcoin holdings of the company in a relatively short period of time... .. and gosh at some point is he going to end up "overdoing it?"

The point in that whole presentation is that he raised the bar as far as BTC YIELD is concerned.
This is the only way to keep the MSTR valuation so high.
I tried to short MSTR, but i hurt myself and now I am flipped. MS can succeed.
It's not a "poor man BTC ETF" it's a "poor man BTC Hedge Fund".

With all the respect and consideration that I have for both of you, I have to tell you that I think you have taken a dislike to MSTR and it is hard for you to see the big picture. I have seen the entire presentation and in it he explains why the company is much more than a company that has bitcoin in its treasuries. They have been working on bitcoin developments for a long time now, such as LN for companies, which if I remember correctly I posted a video about here.

And there is no need to take it as bitcoin vs MSTR. I personally have much more bitcoin than MSTR shares but I find it an interesting option.

Did anyone see that Microsoft shareholders are going to vote on whether to buy bitcoin? That wasn't even considered a few years ago, and if they are voting on it now it's mainly because of Saylor.

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I try not to be a MSTR hater, but Saylor sometimes comes off as a degenerate gambler in regards to figuring out how much is enough.. and nothing seems to be enough, and he wants to double the bitcoin holdings of the company in a relatively short period of time... .. and gosh at some point is he going to end up "overdoing it?"


The point in that whole presentation is that he raised the bar as far as BTC YIELD is concerned.
This is the only way to keep the MSTR valuation so high.
I tried to short MSTR, but i hurt myself and now I am flipped. MS can succeed.
It's not a "poor man BTC ETF" it's a "poor man BTC Hedge Fund".


Can succeed? No, MicroStrategy definitely WILL succeed. We already know that the Central Bank Cabal has a continuous policy to keep printing fiat. Therefore, Bitcoin will surge to a seven digit valuation within a few more cycles. THAT will make MicroStrategy one of the most valued companies in the Nasdaq, but I believe that won't be the only company. Microsoft and the other tech companies will start HODLing Bitcoin in their balance sheets as well. They simply will have no choice but follow the MicroStrategy model.
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they are proving it to the institutions and the corporate world that you can hedge off the dollar with more than cash in the bank. This was done with gold reserves, and slowly has gone away from the spotlight.

There are people who are more concerned about what the future brings and Michael Saylor is one of such people and that's why his company keeps doing the lump sum aggressively, with the way Bitcoin is heading, I believe it has the potential of achieving Saylors dreams which is the global money of the future. However, on a second thought I think Microstrategy's aim is to continue being the company with the highest holding Bitcoins and that's why they keep pumping more money into their portfolio, we've seen how their stock price has risen since when they started investing on Bitcoin and I think other companies, institutions and firm would begin to emulate Microstrategy if some haven't started already.
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I try not to be a MSTR hater, but Saylor sometimes comes off as a degenerate gambler in regards to figuring out how much is enough.. and nothing seems to be enough, and he wants to double the bitcoin holdings of the company in a relatively short period of time... .. and gosh at some point is he going to end up "overdoing it?"

The point in that whole presentation is that he raised the bar as far as BTC YIELD is concerned.
This is the only way to keep the MSTR valuation so high.
I tried to short MSTR, but i hurt myself and now I am flipped. MS can succeed.
It's not a "poor man BTC ETF" it's a "poor man BTC Hedge Fund".
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they are proving it to the institutions and the corporate world that you can hedge off the dollar with more than cash in the bank. This was done with gold reserves, and slowly has gone away from the spotlight.
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Michael Saylor says his company MicroStrategy has announced a $42 billion capital plan to buy more bitcoins. MicroStrategy is the world's first treasury company, announced its third quarter financial results on 30 September 2024.
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I try not to be a MSTR hater, but Saylor sometimes comes off as a degenerate gambler in regards to figuring out how much is enough.. and nothing seems to be enough, and he wants to double the bitcoin holdings of the company in a relatively short period of time... .. and gosh at some point is he going to end up "overdoing it?"
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Michael Saylor says his company MicroStrategy has announced a $42 billion capital plan to buy more bitcoins. MicroStrategy is the world's first treasury company, announced its third quarter financial results on 30 September 2024.

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Michael J Saylor Microstrategy investment approach has become the most or top discussed matter on the social media. I saw a news recently that Japanese public company Metaplanet has announced the purchase of ¥1 billion ($6.25 million) worth of Bitcoin, adopting Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset and this as a result of following the Leed of micro strategy bitcoin treasury and or asset. This is a good sign of bitcoin massive adoption
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Michael Saylor says his company MicroStrategy has announced a $42 billion capital plan to buy more bitcoins. MicroStrategy is the world's first treasury company, announced its third quarter financial results on 30 September 2024.

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The whole presentation is here:

Q3 2024 Financial Results
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Saylor has converted his class B shares, which had 10x votes per share, to class A shares. Saylor went from about 52% of the voting power to 'just' 9.9%. That is a major change and people are speculating why. It might be because only class A shares are added to the market cap which helps reaching the Nasdaq100 inclusion threshold. And maybe removing a barrier for S&P500 inclusion? I can't imagine Saylor to jump ship at this stage now that the company is getting momentum, guess we will learn more during the earning calls (October 30).




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[...] After further discussions we have concluded that the wording “were able to be acquired” is not indicating conversion in the past tense, but the possibility of conversion in the future.

So while the filing was for “Class A Common Stock” it appears to be indicating possible total, and not current actual Class A holdings total.

Apologies for the false alarm, it appears the vote is still fully with Saylor at the moment.


If haven't "DYOR" yet, but can Class B shares be used as collateral? Because if not, that's the only reason I could see why Chad Saylor would convert his Class B shares to Class A and sacrifice his voting power. He probably wants to use more of those shares in the company as collateral?

Almost all bitcoin investors know about the MicroStrategy company, basically everyone has become well-known about this company since it started investing in bitcoins. According to MicroStrategy Bitcoin History they started buying Bitcoin from August 2020. So far they have continued to buy bitcoins step by step. From 2020 to 2024, the value of all the Bitcoins collected by MicroStrategy has already crossed $18 billion, which has brought them to unprecedented heights.

Ever since MicroStrategy invested in Bitcoin in 2020, their company's stock price has gradually started to rise.

MicroStrategy before and after adopting Bitcoin strategy.

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Its price movement is acting like a pseudo-ETF because the value of the company's balance sheet has embedded itself with the value of Bitcoin. Therefore if Bitcoin's price surges and MicroStrategy's balance sheet grows, but the price of the stock remains the same, THEN it's considered undervalued and it will get some bids from smart investors in the stock market.
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From 2020 to 2024, the value of all the Bitcoins collected by MicroStrategy has already crossed $18 billion, which has brought them to unprecedented heights.
Yes currently their investment portfolio has increased in value as the price of Bitcoin has increased. Last night Bitcoin crossed 73 thousand dollars according to which their company crossed 18 billion dollars.
This company may be ready to purchase more bitcoins;
MicroStrategy to buy $900 million in #Bitcoin soon
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Almost all bitcoin investors know about the MicroStrategy company, basically everyone has become well-known about this company since it started investing in bitcoins. According to MicroStrategy Bitcoin History they started buying Bitcoin from August 2020. So far they have continued to buy bitcoins step by step. From 2020 to 2024, the value of all the Bitcoins collected by MicroStrategy has already crossed $18 billion, which has brought them to unprecedented heights.

Ever since MicroStrategy invested in Bitcoin in 2020, their company's stock price has gradually started to rise.

MicroStrategy before and after adopting Bitcoin strategy.

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