Topic: Mikeywith abused his trust system. (Read 716 times)

Thanks for the input TMAN,

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DT being fair, open and listening to posters? what on earth is going on here?

@mikey - Soha hit me up on telegram on the 16th @ 11.22PM (GMT) about the account being hacked - just realised, can send you the log if you need it.

Thanks guys for the help. I didn't mean to sound agressive or anything, I just didn't like how you guys were pointing fingers at me, when I had never lied about it

But I also understand your concerns and i'll gladly wait malevolents review to post his name on my thread.

Thanks, and no hard-feelings

No need to post anymore here until mod pms mikey, thanks.

Sure,thanks for the reminder - 

Great. And if you remove the rating please PM Hhampuz and actmyname to remove the counters because they probably didn't intend to make the OP a +2 green

so Soha reached out via pm again , was much more reasonable this time, decided he would take "malevolent" name out of the vouching story , and agreed to wait till and if malevolent actually does review his method.

even though this is not the reason for the tag, it was also a concern that now i think settled, since neither TMAN nor the other guys "denied" the user's rights to use their name as "vouch members" i will leave it for them to decide.

as far as the tag goes, i will give it 1-2 days if non of the mods gets back to me with an accurate answer of whether the account was locked before the new account was created - which means the whole concept of him not warning about the hacked account which he could have used to scam while not having to take any responsibility- would be invalidated.

* there is no guarantee that any of the mods will provide the information needed, therefore the absence of those information means : the rating will be removed.
* i will keep the tag if the information prove that he created the new account before he was locked-out of the old one.
* if 2 days pass and no information is presented, i will remove the tag, but if happens that one of the mods confirms the new account was created before the other one was locked/hacked at any later time - i will put the rating back.

I am twisting vouches? Can't you just read what all that people posted? And had to double post due to your thoughts about it? I am not marketizing anything. I sent him a vouch copy, he agreed to review it. Whats wrong about it? I just said that. That vouch copies have been handed to "X" users. I never said he had vouched for it, I am just waiting for his review.

Tman double posted and you just refuse to read that, ghscoins45 aswell, bestwebcreator aswell.

And honestly I feel ofended, you just call shit something I am selling. You show no respect to other users nor what they do, speaks really bad of yourself.


Suchmoon, I just edited my post on my Sales thread, and stated clearly for you, that a vouch copy has been given to XXX, but he has NOT reviewed yet, due to irl time schedules. Hope that works. Until he can come and review it himself.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5098397

malevolent name should not be in your topic at all until he does vouch, what is the point of telling everyone that you sent him a vouch copy? how is that different from sending a pm to theymos asking him to vouch for you and then use his name somewhere somehow as marketing method to sell your stuff ? we are not asking the impossible from you here, we are asking you to be reasonable, yet you insist in doing things the way you see fit, you have the right to do so, as so does everybody who finds your vouching shit manipulated and decides to tag you for it.

as far as the rating goes,I said I am still investigating this by myself( waiting for a mod to confirm the block/ban exact time), once i confirm your claims i will take actions. this attitude will not help you speed up any process, you are making things worse for yourself by being an asshole.

The pms I sent to him are locked on my main account, and I Will not give you out his telegram, I dont know if he wants it given out just like that.


Can't you see he hasnt been on for 2 weeks on bitcointalk? Since january 7th? When he has his time he'll review my guide and post on MY thread. If you can not wait, then just pm him, and when he's back online, he'll reply to you. Using his name? I litearly just said I gave a vouch copy to him, thats about it. Nothing wrong with that.
All you are doing is twisting my words here.

I doesn't have to be this thread, although honestly what's the difference? You're asking him to vouch for your thing but you can't ask him to post a short "yes, soha is not full of shit"?

Anyway, get me any confirmation - this thread or in your sale thread or via PM - from malevolent that you indeed had all these communications with him exactly the way you described it and that he's ok with you using his name before the vouch was actually given.

And no, I'm not doing that for you. You're making the claim and it takes just a few seconds for you to prove it since you're already in communication with malevolent. Just do it.

You don't do telegram? Then it's not my fault, you're asking me to proove you something, I am more than happy to do so.

If you don't want to do telegram still, just drop him a pm and ask him; Hey malev, have you actualy recieved a vouch copy for Sohas money making method? Cheers .

And mikey, can you please read? Do you understand english? Not trying to be mean or anything. I said I am not going to ask malevolent to post here, on THIS thread, this is not what this guys signed for as tman said. Though malevolent is going to post his review when he has enough time to do so on my sales thread.

Simple as that.


About mikey, I told you I have not taken a freaking screenshot when my account got locked. You are just going around the Bush with nonsense.

About vouches, method IS vouched by the people that got copies. Like it or not, my offer to give you one for free to proove you wrong has gone to waste, since you keep doing nothing but wasting my and your time. If you want to buy the guide , feel free to.

You only caused trouble to people, by making Tman, ghcoins45, and bestwebcreator come forward again to vouch for methods efectiveness.


You keep going around the Bush with same stuff, god sake. I never said Malevolent vouched for it! I said I gave him  a vouch copy and I am indeed waiting for his review. Now, Tman clearly stated his opinion on my thread, and had to do it again here due to your blatant requests.

Added second quote from TMAN


Added second quote from GHCoins45

then what is the point of giving him a vouch copy if you can't get him to comment on your thread? this is as stupid as giving satoshi or theymos a vouch copy knowing they will never review it and still use their name as a marketing tool in your thread. even TMAN was very careful with his words , never ever said he vouched for your method, yet you still insist on using his name as a vouched member.

as told you in the pm ,i am still waiting for a mod to confirm the ban date, likely i'l remove the current negative, but i  might "very likely" still tag you for manipulating the vouching story.

i am more flexible than suchmoon, you don't have to get malevolent to comment on your thread, removing his name from your thread, as well as taking TMAN permission to use his name as a "TURSTED VOUCH" will suffice, if TMAN says no , they you need to get rid of his name on your thread along side with malevolent.

I don't do telegram and stop twisting my words. You're the one putting a name of a staff member in your sales post. That's shady at best, even if your story is true. It's in your best interest to prove it.

Contact me via telegram, I'll privately show you my conversation with malevolent. And again I never said he vouched for it, I said I handed a vouch copy to him, in which he'll review as he promised me very soon.

I Will not make malevolent comment here, as I never ever requested him to do that. He'll review when he has time. As tman said, people I gave vouch copy to did not sign up for people like you or Mike question things they said, or even I quote about them.

If you do not believe me, feel free to shoot a pm to malevolent now, or talk to him via telegram

And check malevolents latest online time at least, he's been very busy IRL as he told me.

Any why are you commenting on this if you think its crap?

This is what I sell, and I dont reckon it as crap. If you do, then you have no need to read about it.

Here's the deal: get malevolent to comment on this publicly and if he confirms your story (even if it's just a short "yes") I'll believe that you're more or less an ok user just a bit too eager at times as TMAN said. I just have a hard time believing that a moderator would be getting involved into vouching for this kind of crap but I don't really know him so...

If that doesn't happen in a reasonable amount of time (a week?) I'll add another red trust for you. I don't want to pile on right now because you got the one neg countered so obviously someone thinks you're ok.

Thank you tman for commenting on the thread, I never realy want this to become a troublesome subject. I offer my guide, I offered to few trusted people to see what they think of. I got nothing against Mike, I just don't see why he pointed fingers against me like this.

Thanks for posting on thread anyways, and again sorry you had to encounter this situation.

OK PM'd me asking for a vouch, I figured I would help the kid out.  He sent me a doc that outlined his "method" and it took me less than 3 mins to see that it would work, seriously anyone looking at it would say the same. Is it unique? no - is it cleaver ? - no.  is it worth the money he is selling it for? yes to his target audience - no to anyone in this thread. Is the kid super keen ? I think so.  its a buy low sell higher strategy with fluid markets for both the buy and the sell - far too much effort for me though.

He then messaged me a few days later about the account being hacked, I tagged it and told him to read meta, then he messaged me again asking about his account (I didn't sign up for this shit!)

before the  1st PM I had no interaction with the kid, I cant comment on him being trustworthy or anything else.

That's all I am saying on this, Mikey is a reasonable bloke and i'm not getting in the middle here.

The original quote post was never edited, what do you mean?

Edit: My bad it was edited same time, but i had actualy posted the link first time , if any mod can verify that they can see it. Sorry if it could of cause inconvenience.

That post was edited right before you said "here's the quote".

Here's the quote.

I don't know how to get the proof, you can ask Hhampuz that I told him I had been hacked and had no Access to account or I even think Tman, I told him.

About the method , I'm done discussing about it, It's already prooved on vouches, or opinions call them as you please.

Again, I AM offering you a FREE vouch copy for you to try oit out yourself and proove me wrong. If you proove me wrong, I'll never sell a copy again.