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Quote from: Dimitri94 on July 25, 2023, 01:30:00 PM

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Parents are a child's guide. In a family where parents take care of their children at all times, their children are also obliged to them. It is the responsibility of parents to give proper education to their children because they do not understand what is right and what is wrong. Parents feel the need to take care of him till a certain age. When the child is able to understand his own good and bad, he is released. However, 18 years of age is considered to be the age of majority for a child. After that it is up to him how that child will lead his life.

In the family, raising children is the obligation of parents, and parents must educate their children so they don't do things that can make their lives not good in the future. It is not easy to educate their children, but by taking good care of them, they can find the right path to teaching their children until they grow up. And when they are grown up, they let their children decide what they want, but their parents will still accompany them because the parents' task of accompanying their children will be there until the parents die. This will be passed on to their children when they become parents. So, in this case, maybe the age for someone to play gambling can be changed to be over 25 years old with the assumption that someone over 25 years old is an adult who can think maturely and also has his own income. They have started to be responsible with their lives, but their parents still accompany them.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 25, 2023, 03:44:07 AM

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If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

At least if parents can educate their children well from childhood to adulthood, their children will have a solid foundation that will help them develop their own potential for the good of their lives. Parents will certainly try to make their children happy. Sometimes the method is not quite right because the average parent now only pays attention to material problems for their children without approaching them as parents and having a heart-to-heart talk with their children. Parents think if they can meet their child's needs, that's enough when it's not. Children also need love from their parents, which is not something related to the physical but spiritual. And when parents can do it, children can live well.

Parents are a child's guide. In a family where parents take care of their children at all times, their children are also obliged to them. It is the responsibility of parents to give proper education to their children because they do not understand what is right and what is wrong. Parents feel the need to take care of him till a certain age. When the child is able to understand his own good and bad, he is released. However, 18 years of age is considered to be the age of majority for a child. After that it is up to him how that child will lead his life.

Yes, I think the parents of the children can teach the children properly. The parents have a big role to make a child a good human being. In the same way, the parents are there for the child to become bad. I think that if the parents of a child can teach the children right from an early age, the child will never be bad. Those parents who cannot teach their children the right education will be very bad. So we have to be very careful about these things so that we can give our children the right education.

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Quote from: Dimitri94 on July 25, 2023, 01:30:00 PM

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Quote from: Dimitri94 on July 25, 2023, 01:30:00 PM

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

At least if parents can educate their children well from childhood to adulthood, their children will have a solid foundation that will help them develop their own potential for the good of their lives. Parents will certainly try to make their children happy. Sometimes the method is not quite right because the average parent now only pays attention to material problems for their children without approaching them as parents and having a heart-to-heart talk with their children. Parents think if they can meet their child's needs, that's enough when it's not. Children also need love from their parents, which is not something related to the physical but spiritual. And when parents can do it, children can live well.

Parents are a child's guide. In a family where parents take care of their children at all times, their children are also obliged to them. It is the responsibility of parents to give proper education to their children because they do not understand what is right and what is wrong. Parents feel the need to take care of him till a certain age. When the child is able to understand his own good and bad, he is released. However, 18 years of age is considered to be the age of majority for a child. After that it is up to him how that child will lead his life.

Talking about the minimum age for gambling,I think it depends on the location where the child grows up,if he grows up in a geographical entity where children around 14 are gambling,there is every tendency that the child will gamble,but if he grows up at a place where children are not allowed to gamble,then the children around that geographical entity have escaped it.In some places or betting centers,they paste on their notice wall that 18 is the minimum age for children,while some places might actually say 16,there is no minimum age to children gambling.What I see as the best thing to do is to make your child not to have access to any gambling site,or restricting him from the set of children that you see will lure them into gambling,because once addiction steps in,there is every tendency that you have lost that child. Therefore,training a child in a location where gambling is not rampant is ideal.

Trying to make out some generalization when it comes to numbers then it would be playing around 18-21 years old on which this had been considered to be the legal age on which someone could be able to engage into
something or been allowed on doing so. This isnt only talking about gambling but also in other things like smoking or going to bar or with liquor on which this had been the legal age on which you could really make
someone be allowed on doing so on which it is really just that right that there would really be prohibition something like this because we know that youngsters arent really that supposed to deal up with
something like this which would really be putting them in harm.

Being not on your good awareness and thinking would really be leading into bad decisions which is something that needs to be that to be on the right age for you to
engage on.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 25, 2023, 03:44:07 AM

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

At least if parents can educate their children well from childhood to adulthood, their children will have a solid foundation that will help them develop their own potential for the good of their lives. Parents will certainly try to make their children happy. Sometimes the method is not quite right because the average parent now only pays attention to material problems for their children without approaching them as parents and having a heart-to-heart talk with their children. Parents think if they can meet their child's needs, that's enough when it's not. Children also need love from their parents, which is not something related to the physical but spiritual. And when parents can do it, children can live well.

Parents are a child's guide. In a family where parents take care of their children at all times, their children are also obliged to them. It is the responsibility of parents to give proper education to their children because they do not understand what is right and what is wrong. Parents feel the need to take care of him till a certain age. When the child is able to understand his own good and bad, he is released. However, 18 years of age is considered to be the age of majority for a child. After that it is up to him how that child will lead his life.

Talking about the minimum age for gambling,I think it depends on the location where the child grows up,if he grows up in a geographical entity where children around 14 are gambling,there is every tendency that the child will gamble,but if he grows up at a place where children are not allowed to gamble,then the children around that geographical entity have escaped it.In some places or betting centers,they paste on their notice wall that 18 is the minimum age for children,while some places might actually say 16,there is no minimum age to children gambling.What I see as the best thing to do is to make your child not to have access to any gambling site,or restricting him from the set of children that you see will lure them into gambling,because once addiction steps in,there is every tendency that you have lost that child. Therefore,training a child in a location where gambling is not rampant is ideal.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 25, 2023, 03:44:07 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on July 25, 2023, 03:44:07 AM

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

At least if parents can educate their children well from childhood to adulthood, their children will have a solid foundation that will help them develop their own potential for the good of their lives. Parents will certainly try to make their children happy. Sometimes the method is not quite right because the average parent now only pays attention to material problems for their children without approaching them as parents and having a heart-to-heart talk with their children. Parents think if they can meet their child's needs, that's enough when it's not. Children also need love from their parents, which is not something related to the physical but spiritual. And when parents can do it, children can live well.

Parents are a child's guide. In a family where parents take care of their children at all times, their children are also obliged to them. It is the responsibility of parents to give proper education to their children because they do not understand what is right and what is wrong. Parents feel the need to take care of him till a certain age. When the child is able to understand his own good and bad, he is released. However, 18 years of age is considered to be the age of majority for a child. After that it is up to him how that child will lead his life.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 25, 2023, 03:08:56 AM

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

At least if parents can educate their children well from childhood to adulthood, their children will have a solid foundation that will help them develop their own potential for the good of their lives. Parents will certainly try to make their children happy. Sometimes the method is not quite right because the average parent now only pays attention to material problems for their children without approaching them as parents and having a heart-to-heart talk with their children. Parents think if they can meet their child's needs, that's enough when it's not. Children also need love from their parents, which is not something related to the physical but spiritual. And when parents can do it, children can live well.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 19, 2023, 02:59:37 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on July 19, 2023, 01:20:43 AM

at least more states looking for 21 years old before being legal to gamble and that is much better than most countries that only asks for 18 years old in which for me still not that completely aware of life and may fool around to become addicted in gambling.
I wish that this is truly implemented and not just a use to make gambling sounds good but many are not bringing this to reality.

Better? Come on. In most states kids at 18 can buy guns and most even assault rifles, and in past kids were allowed to get guns and use them in shooting range from 14, and now it turns that they can jerk off slots only from 21 Cheesy

And for example, in Alaska (there are other states) if you are 16, you can take your dad or other guardian, go to gun store and buy a gun. Yet this kid is not allowed to go to casino and have some fun spending his piggy bank money in blackjack. Amazing.

How come that it isn't better when I was talking about 18 years old and above when you are even pointing to 14 years old and about Guns ? this is gambling mate , and I don't know why you come to that part , and also we are talking about those states that has implementing 18to21 years old so let us consider it as brighter side .

The point of my post was that it is better to let kids gamble from 14 instead of 18 or 21, because it makes no sense when you can but gun at 14, but can drink alcohol and gamble from 21 only. and you really think that a kid at 21 is much smarter than a 18 yo kid? Imho it is not about age. These 3 years dont make much difference in general. It is either you realise consequences or not. Sometimes kids are more forward-looking at the age when they sell lemonade at the yard, than guys at 40+ who take credits to buy crypto Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 19, 2023, 02:59:37 AM

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent.

If your child is been trained like how the Bible quoted it I don't think the child will go the other way round, in other case allowing the government to control your child for you in other for the child to be disciplined, that's a very wrong idea, because if the child have any little advantage of it's self he will do something the parents will regret thinking it's a good idea for him, if your child is well trained he/she will be very careful of what's he's doing and were he's going, although everyone has a life to live and if a child is above the age of 18+ he/she can do whatever he wants because he's matured enough to know what's good and what's bad and that is his/her life.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 19, 2023, 01:20:43 AM

at least more states looking for 21 years old before being legal to gamble and that is much better than most countries that only asks for 18 years old in which for me still not that completely aware of life and may fool around to become addicted in gambling.
I wish that this is truly implemented and not just a use to make gambling sounds good but many are not bringing this to reality.

Better? Come on. In most states kids at 18 can buy guns and most even assault rifles, and in past kids were allowed to get guns and use them in shooting range from 14, and now it turns that they can jerk off slots only from 21 Cheesy

And for example, in Alaska (there are other states) if you are 16, you can take your dad or other guardian, go to gun store and buy a gun. Yet this kid is not allowed to go to casino and have some fun spending his piggy bank money in blackjack. Amazing.

How come that it isn't better when I was talking about 18 years old and above when you are even pointing to 14 years old and about Guns ? this is gambling mate , and I don't know why you come to that part , and also we are talking about those states that has implementing 18to21 years old so let us consider it as brighter side .

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Could take the other side on this subject, its never too early to learn. Its better to learn all the rules and dynamics to any large subject before engaging personally with any possibly loss risking activity, we can apply that to guns, gambling, drugs anything. Education isn't a bad thing, that perhaps should be the emphasis not a law just saying no. I don't especially believe government does anything useful purely making a law to fine people and nothing else; we gained nothing but a tax from their oversight and regime so useless then Shocked

People might be horrified at this idea but I learnt statistics at an early age, its invariably helped me quantify all kinds of statistics and risks in life as well gambling factors leading to a win rather just all or nothing hopes and dreams. For sure its a positive to educate people not blindly ban imo.

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Quote from: Shamm on July 22, 2023, 02:00:13 AM

Quote from: Issa56 on July 21, 2023, 07:10:35 PM

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

Implementing kyc can’t stop minors from gambling, the only thing I know is that it can reduce it, their I no way gambling sites can completely fish out under age gamblers using their website, their are lots of way which kyc can be manipulated, and their are still lots of casino sites that those not require kyc before using them, underage gamblers are given free opportunity to gamble because I don’t know any way which minor gamblers will be fished out, so am sure underage gamblers will rather prefer to go for gambling site’s without kyc.

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 21, 2023, 06:37:48 PM

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.

I don’t know if their will be any gambling site that will intentionally allow minors to gamble, because they know it might end up causing problem for them, so they are also trying to fish out the under age gamblers which they noticed, but we all know it’s not possible for all to be discovered, their are still some that will really be smart that gambling sites won’t be able to discover that they are underage gambler.

In reality gambling sites are too many which is many of them don't have licensed which means they are not too strict and even minors can play with them they won't Ask KYC so that many minors can access their sites and play. Like what you said mate if the gambling industries want to lesser the minors got involved in gambling then all they can do is to ask KYC in their every player in order to know if that player is an adult or a kid.

Right and we cannot blame them if they are evading the licensing because that is quite expensive and besides, almost all of the casinos are after the same thing and that is to gather clients as much as possible to gain profits as much as possible. It's just these unlicensed casinos don't have to ask for some KYC because there is no need for them to filter the ages and it doesn't matter to them whether if their clients are still underage or not. The only thing that these licensed casinos are asking for KYC is for the sole reason that they have to enforce it legally.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 21, 2023, 04:23:59 PM

We have to control our kids in a good way, not because we are strict but because we are very concerned about what they are doing as well. Because with their young age, they need guidance and we guide them in the right path. Allowing them what they wanted is just we are giving them a chance to fall in the wrong direction and later on we regrets it. For me, it was not a good idea from letting them to gamble because it means that we are giving them a chance to become addicted too early and the impact for it is bad for their mindset.

Well, it's good to train a child in such a way that if they are old, they will always remember the good teachings and have good moral behaviour. But sometimes you can still train some kids with good morals, but due to peer pressure, the influence of friends, and the kind of environment they find themselves in, will determine how they behave, and again, no matter how old a kid is, as long as they are no longer infants, that means they can differentiate between what's right (good) and what's not right (bad). At such times, they can give themselves good advice, which really counts compared to advice from their guidance. Remember that kids do have their decisions too; once they decide never to do something, no matter how hard you try to talk them into it, they will not agree to whatever you say. So, sometimes it's not just from upbringing or parenting.

but educating the young is just one of the many aspects to consider. I believe 18 years of old for a person would be viable. At that age, most teens are already mature enough to think. They can access IDs for KYC, credits, and debits. Legally, they are expected to be a responsible contributor to the society. So when they do things that are unruly to the law, then they are accountable to it because they are no longer a minor.

This will benefit both the participants and the business owners of the casino for a major loss.

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Quote from: retreat on July 21, 2023, 08:26:29 AM

Sometimes you need to be strict with your children to discipline them, because there are some children who cannot be advised and they think that what they are doing is not wrong. This is where the role of strict parents is very important to be able to give a deterrent effect to these children so that they can listen more and not get involved in gambling because it is not yet the time for them. Moreover, the money they are betting on is their own parents' money, of course, parents have the right to be strict with their children.

It is necessary to be strict with children, but the average parent is too strict in supervising them. They can't tell the difference between being assertive and forbidding their children. The role of parents is very important in shaping their children's character to become a child who is responsible for themselves so that our children have better self-control than their friends. Moreover, the current situation is very different from a few years ago.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 21, 2023, 04:23:59 PM

We have to control our kids in a good way, not because we are strict but because we are very concerned about what they are doing as well. Because with their young age, they need guidance and we guide them in the right path. Allowing them what they wanted is just we are giving them a chance to fall in the wrong direction and later on we regrets it. For me, it was not a good idea from letting them to gamble because it means that we are giving them a chance to become addicted too early and the impact for it is bad for their mindset.

Yes, because they are our children that we must guide and look after properly and well. We help him to grow well without having to experience the bad things that other children have experienced. Apart from that, we can also give them an understanding that there are bad things around them so they have to be able to take good care of themselves. Their young age can make them lose self-control if we can't guide them properly and they might end up falling into bad things. And it will make us and our children will regret it.

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Quote from: Issa56 on July 21, 2023, 07:10:35 PM

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

Implementing kyc can’t stop minors from gambling, the only thing I know is that it can reduce it, their I no way gambling sites can completely fish out under age gamblers using their website, their are lots of way which kyc can be manipulated, and their are still lots of casino sites that those not require kyc before using them, underage gamblers are given free opportunity to gamble because I don’t know any way which minor gamblers will be fished out, so am sure underage gamblers will rather prefer to go for gambling site’s without kyc.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 21, 2023, 07:52:34 AM

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.

I don’t know if their will be any gambling site that will intentionally allow minors to gamble, because they know it might end up causing problem for them, so they are also trying to fish out the under age gamblers which they noticed, but we all know it’s not possible for all to be discovered, their are still some that will really be smart that gambling sites won’t be able to discover that they are underage gambler.

In reality gambling sites are too many which is many of them don't have licensed which means they are not too strict and even minors can play with them they won't Ask KYC so that many minors can access their sites and play. Like what you said mate if the gambling industries want to lesser the minors got involved in gambling then all they can do is to ask KYC in their every player in order to know if that player is an adult or a kid.

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Of course, in any country, every parent will definitely monitor and track the activities of their children, but unfortunately there are still many parents who don't really pay attention to what their children are doing, so many underage children have entered and tried to gamble.
If the gambling habit has been left on, it is very likely that in the next few years they will lose their way in life because they have become a gambling addict.
The development of the era cannot be the main reason why many children are getting to know gambling because the biggest mistake lies in parents who are negligent in supervision.

If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent. It is better that the government takes the custody of the children and let the so called parents enjoy thier life. These parents are those who became parent accidentally otherwise why won't they keep a track of their children. Whatever happens a parents primary responsibility is the children.

Banyak orang tua yang sibuk bekerja dan mencari nafkah untuk keluarganya sehingga tidak bisa benar-benar memantau aktivitas anak namun tetap memperhatikan dan memberikan nasehat yang tepat sehingga tidak semua orang tua dapat memantau aktivitas anaknya.
Sebenarnya tidak perlu melakukan tracking aktivitas, namun dengan memperhatikan dan selalu membatasi penggunaan handphone dapat semakin meminimalisir aktivitas perjudian yang dilakukan oleh seorang anak itu sendiri.
Tapi ya itu semua tergantung bagaimana seorang ayah dan ibu mendidik dan memperhatikan anak-anaknya karena kesibukan tidak bisa dijadikan alasan untuk lalai dalam pengawasan.

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because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

Implementing kyc can’t stop minors from gambling, the only thing I know is that it can reduce it, their I no way gambling sites can completely fish out under age gamblers using their website, their are lots of way which kyc can be manipulated, and their are still lots of casino sites that those not require kyc before using them, underage gamblers are given free opportunity to gamble because I don’t know any way which minor gamblers will be fished out, so am sure underage gamblers will rather prefer to go for gambling site’s without kyc.