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I think that at the age of 12-13 you were not playing for substantial money, but for something like pocket money that is not so important. But times are changing and now I know schoolchildren of 12-14 years old who are engaged in speculation with in-game stuff and they earn money comparable to the average salary in my country. And some of them are betting.

They can bet with their friends as well, I knew some who gambles in some sites that are illegal there's no age restriction and the amount required to play is kinda small so it doesn't matter if they are using their pocket money or not. I think as long as you are interested to it you cannot be stopped, so I think it is parents responsibility actually, but if it what they have in their environment maybe that is the possible reason why they are gambling too early.

Why do it with your friends when they have the opportunity to do it in regular casinos as if they were adults. As I already wrote, they have a large cash flow, which means they either have access to the cards of their parents/adult acquaintances. And by the way, the younger generation also uses crypto - all this makes it easier for them to access casinos/bookmakers.

Because technological developments greatly affect all of this, it's like minors who shouldn't gamble, but they can still gamble because their older friends tell them about gambling and can borrow accounts from friends or borrow data belonging to friends.
Another problem is that nowadays many young people know crypto and they will increasingly know about the existence of crypto casinos so that minors can freely bet on gambling considering that there are some casinos that do not require KYC to deposit and withdraw funds.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 16, 2023, 02:25:27 PM

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I think that at the age of 12-13 you were not playing for substantial money, but for something like pocket money that is not so important. But times are changing and now I know schoolchildren of 12-14 years old who are engaged in speculation with in-game stuff and they earn money comparable to the average salary in my country. And some of them are betting.

They can bet with their friends as well, I knew some who gambles in some sites that are illegal there's no age restriction and the amount required to play is kinda small so it doesn't matter if they are using their pocket money or not. I think as long as you are interested to it you cannot be stopped, so I think it is parents responsibility actually, but if it what they have in their environment maybe that is the possible reason why they are gambling too early.

Why do it with your friends when they have the opportunity to do it in regular casinos as if they were adults. As I already wrote, they have a large cash flow, which means they either have access to the cards of their parents/adult acquaintances. And by the way, the younger generation also uses crypto - all this makes it easier for them to access casinos/bookmakers.

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But how can parents be careful in the digital age when the sign up is just pushing a few buttons, using some fake data to register and deposit some cryptocurrency to gamble? This isn't only a problem of gambling, but porn as well. If a ten year old with a mobile phone wants to watch hardcore porn, it takes only a few moments to get there. The supervision that parents are often asked to do properly is impossible unless you install all kinds of blocks and limits on the phones I guess. But even apps like Tiktok are dangerous because I can't even remember how often I read some headline that a kid died from copying some shit from Tiktok.

We can talk about the legal age per country and what would make sense until when young people should refrain from gambling, but it all comes down to a case by case basis. There are some 18 year old who should not be allowed to drive. I remember when some got their licenses and I thought holy shit. But then there are others who are very careful and respecting traffic rules, so why not let them drive. It is the same with gambling. Some can handle the temptation very well or they don't even feel any temptation to exaggerate their gambling habits, while others develop an addiction.

I do understand your worry, trust me. The internet has both positive and negative aspects. It's a treasure trove of information one minute and a Pandora's box of adult material the next. That's a bitter truth, but one that we must accept.

Setting up parental controls is a good beginning step, but it won't solve the problem entirely. In today's modern world, children have become rather tech savvy. Kids will figure out a method to get past any problem. A cat-and-mouse game, to be sure!

The safest option? Free exchanges of ideas! Do we hear something simple? And maybe a little giddy, but it does the trick! Discuss your past actions, even if they were unsuccessful. Justify the harm and inappropriateness of some actions. Remind them that the repercussions for acting out in real life are much more severe than in a TikTok video. Keeping your eyes open is the first step.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 16, 2023, 02:25:27 PM

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 16, 2023, 02:20:52 AM

What age were most of you really when you started gambling though? I want to say I started playing cards for money around 12-13, and by 16 I was betting decent amounts of money with my friends. By 18 I was betting in casinos, but never as much as when I was gambling with friends. Since then my gambling interest has pretty much declined until now.

I think that at the age of 12-13 you were not playing for substantial money, but for something like pocket money that is not so important. But times are changing and now I know schoolchildren of 12-14 years old who are engaged in speculation with in-game stuff and they earn money comparable to the average salary in my country. And some of them are betting.

They can bet with their friends as well, I knew some who gambles in some sites that are illegal there's no age restriction and the amount required to play is kinda small so it doesn't matter if they are using their pocket money or not. I think as long as you are interested to it you cannot be stopped, so I think it is parents responsibility actually, but if it what they have in their environment maybe that is the possible reason why they are gambling too early.

Yes, it indeed falls on the parent's responsibility because they are just a kid and a minor too, for starters. But if the parents is not a good role model to their children and openly do illegal things in front of them, then it is not that surprising if the children will also engage into such activities. It might be a little pocket money for us but that is just a start because at that age, their mind is not that fixed to reality and they don't know what will happen to them if they got addicted, what they know is just it is entertaining because their parents are also doing it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 16, 2023, 01:24:28 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 16, 2023, 02:20:52 AM

What age were most of you really when you started gambling though? I want to say I started playing cards for money around 12-13, and by 16 I was betting decent amounts of money with my friends. By 18 I was betting in casinos, but never as much as when I was gambling with friends. Since then my gambling interest has pretty much declined until now.

I think that at the age of 12-13 you were not playing for substantial money, but for something like pocket money that is not so important. But times are changing and now I know schoolchildren of 12-14 years old who are engaged in speculation with in-game stuff and they earn money comparable to the average salary in my country. And some of them are betting.

They can bet with their friends as well, I knew some who gambles in some sites that are illegal there's no age restriction and the amount required to play is kinda small so it doesn't matter if they are using their pocket money or not. I think as long as you are interested to it you cannot be stopped, so I think it is parents responsibility actually, but if it what they have in their environment maybe that is the possible reason why they are gambling too early.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 16, 2023, 02:20:52 AM

What age were most of you really when you started gambling though? I want to say I started playing cards for money around 12-13, and by 16 I was betting decent amounts of money with my friends. By 18 I was betting in casinos, but never as much as when I was gambling with friends. Since then my gambling interest has pretty much declined until now.

I think that at the age of 12-13 you were not playing for substantial money, but for something like pocket money that is not so important. But times are changing and now I know schoolchildren of 12-14 years old who are engaged in speculation with in-game stuff and they earn money comparable to the average salary in my country. And some of them are betting.

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In my country you are a full adult at the age of 18, you can gamble, but strong alcohol, take out loans and buy a house. When I think back at my 18th birthday and how excited I was to visit a casino, I am not so sure if that age was enough to understand everything money related. Maybe 21 is the safer age so that everybody is developed far enough. These strict age restrictions are also a bit misleading because people develop so differently. There can be someone with 17 acting more mature than someone with 27. What surprises me the most is that politicians want children to vote and drive with 16, which seems counterintuitive because how can you make the right decision in one area and not the other. Politicians shouldn't be cherry picking and make strict laws for all sectors. If we need to protect our children from their own actions, how can they choose our next president? Either the brain is fully developed or not, choosing 18 for all matters seems like a good compromise.

18 years old is a mature enough age to make independent decisions. My experience with gambling started before I came of age, I can say that it was a negative experience, because at that time I understood almost nothing about it and to some extent it was the fault of the bookmaker who did not ask teenagers their age. But perhaps this has its positive, because at that time I had very little money to lose something significant.

18 years is considered as an adult but boys above 14 years are now taking up gambling. But it is true that from 18 years a person can take his own decision and his signature is evaluated but everyone below 18 years is considered as a minor. However, in the youth society, the tendency of underage people to gamble has increased a lot. But the actual age for gambling is 18+. Parents should be careful for this.

But how can parents be careful in the digital age when the sign up is just pushing a few buttons, using some fake data to register and deposit some cryptocurrency to gamble? This isn't only a problem of gambling, but porn as well. If a ten year old with a mobile phone wants to watch hardcore porn, it takes only a few moments to get there. The supervision that parents are often asked to do properly is impossible unless you install all kinds of blocks and limits on the phones I guess. But even apps like Tiktok are dangerous because I can't even remember how often I read some headline that a kid died from copying some shit from Tiktok.

We can talk about the legal age per country and what would make sense until when young people should refrain from gambling, but it all comes down to a case by case basis. There are some 18 year old who should not be allowed to drive. I remember when some got their licenses and I thought holy shit. But then there are others who are very careful and respecting traffic rules, so why not let them drive. It is the same with gambling. Some can handle the temptation very well or they don't even feel any temptation to exaggerate their gambling habits, while others develop an addiction.

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In my country you are a full adult at the age of 18, you can gamble, but strong alcohol, take out loans and buy a house. When I think back at my 18th birthday and how excited I was to visit a casino, I am not so sure if that age was enough to understand everything money related. Maybe 21 is the safer age so that everybody is developed far enough. These strict age restrictions are also a bit misleading because people develop so differently. There can be someone with 17 acting more mature than someone with 27. What surprises me the most is that politicians want children to vote and drive with 16, which seems counterintuitive because how can you make the right decision in one area and not the other. Politicians shouldn't be cherry picking and make strict laws for all sectors. If we need to protect our children from their own actions, how can they choose our next president? Either the brain is fully developed or not, choosing 18 for all matters seems like a good compromise.

18 years old is a mature enough age to make independent decisions. My experience with gambling started before I came of age, I can say that it was a negative experience, because at that time I understood almost nothing about it and to some extent it was the fault of the bookmaker who did not ask teenagers their age. But perhaps this has its positive, because at that time I had very little money to lose something significant.

18 years is considered as an adult but boys above 14 years are now taking up gambling. But it is true that from 18 years a person can take his own decision and his signature is evaluated but everyone below 18 years is considered as a minor. However, in the youth society, the tendency of underage people to gamble has increased a lot. But the actual age for gambling is 18+. Parents should be careful for this.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 16, 2023, 02:15:54 AM

Quote from: GxSTxV on July 15, 2023, 02:48:40 PM

Online casinos with a valid license are almost as real life casinos with same rules regarding the age restrictions. Most of casinos require 21 Years Old age to be able for an individual to start betting or gambling. While some casinos allows you from 18 YO.
I think it’s logical and scientific proven that a person starts taking responsibility and thinking straight about his own decisions to know well he is gambling and understand the risks of his actions. That’s why all legit and certified casinos ask for your documents and KYC process

In my country you are a full adult at the age of 18, you can gamble, but strong alcohol, take out loans and buy a house. When I think back at my 18th birthday and how excited I was to visit a casino, I am not so sure if that age was enough to understand everything money related. Maybe 21 is the safer age so that everybody is developed far enough. These strict age restrictions are also a bit misleading because people develop so differently. There can be someone with 17 acting more mature than someone with 27. What surprises me the most is that politicians want children to vote and drive with 16, which seems counterintuitive because how can you make the right decision in one area and not the other. Politicians shouldn't be cherry picking and make strict laws for all sectors. If we need to protect our children from their own actions, how can they choose our next president? Either the brain is fully developed or not, choosing 18 for all matters seems like a good compromise.

When I turned 18, I had a very simplistic worldview and couldn't fathom being responsible for my own finances, let alone casting a vote for a country's leader. It makes me think back to the naive, free-spirited me of my adolescent years.

Putting an age limit on something might be deceiving because it makes an assumption about a person's maturity level. However, maturation isnt a linear process whereby, once you turn 18, you're done. You have the mental faculties and maturity to make sound choices now that you're an adult. The age of majority, 18, appears to be more of a social construct than a measure of actual maturity.

Is it really right to expect 16-year-olds to make important political choices? There's some animosity because its unfair to expect people who are still trying to figure out life to select their leaders. The ability to complete a task is no guarantee that you are actually prepared to do so. These age-based conventions need to be reconsidered so that we may strike a balance that works for everyone.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 16, 2023, 02:15:54 AM

In my country you are a full adult at the age of 18, you can gamble, but strong alcohol, take out loans and buy a house. When I think back at my 18th birthday and how excited I was to visit a casino, I am not so sure if that age was enough to understand everything money related. Maybe 21 is the safer age so that everybody is developed far enough. These strict age restrictions are also a bit misleading because people develop so differently. There can be someone with 17 acting more mature than someone with 27. What surprises me the most is that politicians want children to vote and drive with 16, which seems counterintuitive because how can you make the right decision in one area and not the other. Politicians shouldn't be cherry picking and make strict laws for all sectors. If we need to protect our children from their own actions, how can they choose our next president? Either the brain is fully developed or not, choosing 18 for all matters seems like a good compromise.

18 years old is a mature enough age to make independent decisions. My experience with gambling started before I came of age, I can say that it was a negative experience, because at that time I understood almost nothing about it and to some extent it was the fault of the bookmaker who did not ask teenagers their age. But perhaps this has its positive, because at that time I had very little money to lose something significant.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 16, 2023, 12:53:51 AM

There will always be some situations where even with KYC you will have people who will disobey the rules and find a way to gamble even if they are underage. Casinos don't want minors gambling on their site because it can get them in trouble with their license provider. If you are caught they will certainly ban you. There is only so much an online casino can do to prevent this from happening while still respecting people's privacy.

With today's technological advances and the many devices used for various purposes, underage children can gamble without adults knowing. Even if casinos don't want minors to gamble on their sites, they still can't ban them, especially if the kids can pass KYC easily. Especially now that there are crypto casinos, it makes it easier for minors to visit crypto casinos and register themselves. They also quickly understand how to use crypto and may understand how to deposit their coins in crypto casinos to gamble. So it will be difficult to catch minors gambling in crypto casinos.

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Quote from: maydna on July 10, 2023, 09:48:36 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on July 08, 2023, 03:23:33 PM

In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.

Unless their parents strictly supervise their children in using the device, they will not be able to play gambling easily. But it is also true that today's children are so much smarter than in our time that they can still secretly visit any website they want. And I agree with you that today's children are more protected from gambling and everything else because they can access it easily using their devices. For this reason, supervision and explanation from parents are needed about the dangers of gambling so that their children know that gambling is dangerous.

I agree that kids nowadays are much smarter than kids and they know everything about websites. If teenagers are surrounded by family members who gamble, they are more likely to be interested in gambling. If your child has a habit of betting on every little thing then he is more likely to get involved in gambling in cyberspace so parental supervision from a young age will reduce this type of problem. If not at the right age, gambling addiction creates obstacles in growing up.

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Now gonna people appear and start talking about where were your parents when you started gambling for money at such age, about responsibility, addiction and how young you could have ruined your future. That at 12-13 you should have played with toys, play video games and hang out with friends. That money at such age will spoil your understanding of the world as you dont understand how hard it is to earn.

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What age were most of you really when you started gambling though? I want to say I started playing cards for money around 12-13, and by 16 I was betting decent amounts of money with my friends. By 18 I was betting in casinos, but never as much as when I was gambling with friends. Since then my gambling interest has pretty much declined until now.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on July 15, 2023, 02:48:40 PM

Online casinos with a valid license are almost as real life casinos with same rules regarding the age restrictions. Most of casinos require 21 Years Old age to be able for an individual to start betting or gambling. While some casinos allows you from 18 YO.
I think it’s logical and scientific proven that a person starts taking responsibility and thinking straight about his own decisions to know well he is gambling and understand the risks of his actions. That’s why all legit and certified casinos ask for your documents and KYC process

In my country you are a full adult at the age of 18, you can gamble, but strong alcohol, take out loans and buy a house. When I think back at my 18th birthday and how excited I was to visit a casino, I am not so sure if that age was enough to understand everything money related. Maybe 21 is the safer age so that everybody is developed far enough. These strict age restrictions are also a bit misleading because people develop so differently. There can be someone with 17 acting more mature than someone with 27. What surprises me the most is that politicians want children to vote and drive with 16, which seems counterintuitive because how can you make the right decision in one area and not the other. Politicians shouldn't be cherry picking and make strict laws for all sectors. If we need to protect our children from their own actions, how can they choose our next president? Either the brain is fully developed or not, choosing 18 for all matters seems like a good compromise.

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There will always be some situations where even with KYC you will have people who will disobey the rules and find a way to gamble even if they are underage. Casinos don't want minors gambling on their site because it can get them in trouble with their license provider. If you are caught they will certainly ban you. There is only so much an online casino can do to prevent this from happening while still respecting people's privacy.

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It is on their terms and agreement that the player must need to become 18 and above but the platform does not have a prevention on it for example account creation even though the user is not 18 they can pretend that they was, and the only thing or way to verify this is with the use of the KYC but most of the player does not support the KYC system because of being anonymous at the same time, so its outside or limitation of the gambling casino. This issue only will rise up or get noticed by the platform if those players want to withdraw or any cases have trouble and required a KYC.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 15, 2023, 01:22:44 PM

When a person hits 18, they started to develop their thinking abilities but then it is not yet sure that they can handle any emotions that is regarding to gambling , when they lose can they manage their anger? their patience? and other things. So I do agree that gambling age should maybe at least 21 , 18yo nowadays are very indecisive and they are hardly control their emotions.

Special laws regarding gambling and the minimum age at which people should be able to engage on the activity do not see like something possible for me, once you are considered legally an adult in your country that is the moment a great deal of rights and responsibilities are pushed upon you, like being able to drive, join the army, drink alcohol, to vote and gamble, if we were to somehow not allow a person to gamble until later on then we are saying they are not responsible enough to do so, and in that case that opens the question about whether or not they are ready to take on the rest of the responsibilities and rights they get once they reach adulthood.

When a person is given with the right to vote, he is considered a grown person to take his own decision. Different countries have got difference in the age bracket for th right to vote. Based on the same age can be the gambling access. Restrictions can be seen everywhere and the casinos have begun to request KYC which assure only the right aged person get into gambling. The voting rights give more responsibility and then onwards it is his own choice and there should be law that he/she should use their own money and not their parents money into gambling.

In most countries, a person at least 18 years of age is considered an adult and is considered capable of making his or her own decisions. And after 18 years he was given the right to vote. And then he gets an identity card which can be used for kyc verification. Accordingly, a gambler must be at least 18 years of age to gamble. But no one wants to obey these rules. Because now minor people are more addicted to smartphones and they don't hesitate to play online gambling.

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Quote from: South Park on July 15, 2023, 04:05:37 PM

Quote from: molsewid on July 15, 2023, 01:22:44 PM

When a person hits 18, they started to develop their thinking abilities but then it is not yet sure that they can handle any emotions that is regarding to gambling , when they lose can they manage their anger? their patience? and other things. So I do agree that gambling age should maybe at least 21 , 18yo nowadays are very indecisive and they are hardly control their emotions.

Special laws regarding gambling and the minimum age at which people should be able to engage on the activity do not see like something possible for me, once you are considered legally an adult in your country that is the moment a great deal of rights and responsibilities are pushed upon you, like being able to drive, join the army, drink alcohol, to vote and gamble, if we were to somehow not allow a person to gamble until later on then we are saying they are not responsible enough to do so, and in that case that opens the question about whether or not they are ready to take on the rest of the responsibilities and rights they get once they reach adulthood.

When a person is given with the right to vote, he is considered a grown person to take his own decision. Different countries have got difference in the age bracket for th right to vote. Based on the same age can be the gambling access. Restrictions can be seen everywhere and the casinos have begun to request KYC which assure only the right aged person get into gambling. The voting rights give more responsibility and then onwards it is his own choice and there should be law that he/she should use their own money and not their parents money into gambling.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 01, 2023, 03:28:18 PM

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

AFAIK most online casinos do, and it's quite strongly enforced too as some cryptocurrency casinos nowadays require KYC which includes your birthday so you're basically background checked the moment you try to deposit/withdraw money. In any other case I don't think it's strictly enforced cause there's no foolproof way of verifying someone's age without asking them for identifiable documents. At the end of the day if your kid happens to stumble upon your computer and gamble it's not really the computer's or the casino's fault, but your own cause you're a negligent buffoon who would rather throw the blame at other people than actually proactively ensuring that your kid doesn't get into your gambling habits.

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