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Just another man trying to find his way.
December 06, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
I started trading with .04 and its now .103. All that matters is the percentages you earn. If you have more money to play with, you could potentially gain more from the same margin percentages simply because you can buy more coins. I just watch the charts and look for a wave to ride and then swim back to shore before the sharks come.
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December 05, 2015, 07:35:01 AM
I would not put up more than you are okay to lose.  If trading alts 0.01 is good enough to find your way about, one tip is do not be greedy, if you are backing a coin that has risn 300% in 24 hours and you have made some profit you should sell them pretty soon as it will at some point fall back down.

For altcoin trading, you can put in 0.001 bitcoin without any problem. Those amount of bitcoin worth a lot of altcoins.
sr. member
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Live by your own rules
December 05, 2015, 04:20:02 AM
I would not put up more than you are okay to lose.  If trading alts 0.01 is good enough to find your way about, one tip is do not be greedy, if you are backing a coin that has risn 300% in 24 hours and you have made some profit you should sell them pretty soon as it will at some point fall back down.

It has happened to me ,  i keep hold the coin even it already crossed 200% .
Until i realize the price back down and down even worst.
legendary
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December 05, 2015, 03:41:12 AM

So basically it's the same like trading with stocks or forex? I mean if someone has experience with any of them, then it's an advantage in trading BTC or it's a special market with special things to learn before you can become a successfull trader here?
Are all of the exchanges good enough to start trading or there are exchanges for people with different experience level (and/or bankroll)?

There are a lot of exchanges..  http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ and I only know a few personally..

I doubt there are many, if any, exchanges that you would be at a disadvantage at with less than .5 BTC.. Just make sure you aren't bottoming out on the minumum fees to where they impose a greater % fee because you are so small, and some have a minimum withdraw amount.. Do some research on ones you think you may like before jumping in head first..

I personally think trading crypto is a lot different than stocks and forex. Prices change in crypto for seemingly no reason all the time, just look at how many people are trying to figure out what caused the recent BTC pumps.. I don't think chart analysis and those sort of market indicators apply very well to crypto either because crypto is too random. 

There are a lot of books about stock trading. There iare a few, but less about trading forex. Is there any book about trading crypto, or any guide for beginners? Or, everyone should learn it on his own experience? If crypto price is too random to use the indicators like we use at trading stocks or forex, what are your drivers to make a decision about opening/closing a position? It's OK for me if you provide me a trustable link where I can start learning, I don't want you to write a book for me about crypto trading Smiley

Yeah, any tips on what moves crypto markets?

it is very well known already, small altcoin are moved by manipulators, by anyone practically, they have no volume, even those in top 10 can be easily manipulated, bitcoin is no exception

but bitcoin can also be moved by legit demand that believe in it, instead the other only for a 100% speculation
legendary
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December 04, 2015, 02:23:54 PM
I would not put up more than you are okay to lose.  If trading alts 0.01 is good enough to find your way about, one tip is do not be greedy, if you are backing a coin that has risn 300% in 24 hours and you have made some profit you should sell them pretty soon as it will at some point fall back down.
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December 04, 2015, 02:06:51 PM

So basically it's the same like trading with stocks or forex? I mean if someone has experience with any of them, then it's an advantage in trading BTC or it's a special market with special things to learn before you can become a successfull trader here?
Are all of the exchanges good enough to start trading or there are exchanges for people with different experience level (and/or bankroll)?

There are a lot of exchanges..  http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ and I only know a few personally..

I doubt there are many, if any, exchanges that you would be at a disadvantage at with less than .5 BTC.. Just make sure you aren't bottoming out on the minumum fees to where they impose a greater % fee because you are so small, and some have a minimum withdraw amount.. Do some research on ones you think you may like before jumping in head first..

I personally think trading crypto is a lot different than stocks and forex. Prices change in crypto for seemingly no reason all the time, just look at how many people are trying to figure out what caused the recent BTC pumps.. I don't think chart analysis and those sort of market indicators apply very well to crypto either because crypto is too random. 

There are a lot of books about stock trading. There iare a few, but less about trading forex. Is there any book about trading crypto, or any guide for beginners? Or, everyone should learn it on his own experience? If crypto price is too random to use the indicators like we use at trading stocks or forex, what are your drivers to make a decision about opening/closing a position? It's OK for me if you provide me a trustable link where I can start learning, I don't want you to write a book for me about crypto trading Smiley

Yeah, any tips on what moves crypto markets?
legendary
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December 04, 2015, 07:01:23 AM
I like the rule, you should start with salary for 1 month!!!
if you lose money is not much impact on your life.

I have never heard of this rule before. And that's probably because it's nonsense. People should simply invest what they can afford, and what they surely know they don't need the comming years. For you it might be $1000 and for the other it's just $100, even when his salary is around $900 or more.
sr. member
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December 04, 2015, 02:17:43 AM
I think with 0.01 you can start trade at bittrex, yobit, poloniex, c-cex or other market
im start trade with 0.05 BTC sometimes i get profit 0.02/week sometimes 0.01 and sometimes -0.01
full member
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December 03, 2015, 08:20:36 PM
I think proper money management is as important as you starting capital.

You should definitely use a small amount as a demo account so you at least know what your risk for appetite is and also .more importantly if you the required mindset for trading and can handle your emotions well. I would say starting with 1K usd is good. Also you should not be risking more than 2% per trade as you can come back even with several losses as your loss is limited. Hope this has helped
legendary
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December 03, 2015, 05:09:04 PM
I like the rule, you should start with salary for 1 month!!!
if you lose money is not much impact on your life.
hero member
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November 30, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
For more experienced traders (or at least some experience) there. Which would be the minimum to invest in order to have a chance to profit from trading? I would like to start as low has 10k satoshis, but as I have seen, many exchanges have minimums and minimums fees and that does not feel reasonable.

Let's say that we put a goal to earn 20k satoshis a day (on average) from trading... How much would you see you have to employ to achieve that?
when you decide to be trader,you must decide how much you will take profit on it,and it also happen how much you will start with.
if you wish earn 20k satoshi,you should try it with 20k start. logic?
hero member
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Vires in Numeris
November 30, 2015, 05:29:04 PM

So basically it's the same like trading with stocks or forex? I mean if someone has experience with any of them, then it's an advantage in trading BTC or it's a special market with special things to learn before you can become a successfull trader here?
Are all of the exchanges good enough to start trading or there are exchanges for people with different experience level (and/or bankroll)?

There are a lot of exchanges..  http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ and I only know a few personally..

I doubt there are many, if any, exchanges that you would be at a disadvantage at with less than .5 BTC.. Just make sure you aren't bottoming out on the minumum fees to where they impose a greater % fee because you are so small, and some have a minimum withdraw amount.. Do some research on ones you think you may like before jumping in head first..

I personally think trading crypto is a lot different than stocks and forex. Prices change in crypto for seemingly no reason all the time, just look at how many people are trying to figure out what caused the recent BTC pumps.. I don't think chart analysis and those sort of market indicators apply very well to crypto either because crypto is too random. 

There are a lot of books about stock trading. There iare a few, but less about trading forex. Is there any book about trading crypto, or any guide for beginners? Or, everyone should learn it on his own experience? If crypto price is too random to use the indicators like we use at trading stocks or forex, what are your drivers to make a decision about opening/closing a position? It's OK for me if you provide me a trustable link where I can start learning, I don't want you to write a book for me about crypto trading Smiley
newbie
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November 29, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
Try with small amount and learn the better you develop skills needed for a day trader. if you can turn 0.01 in 0.02, you can do the same with 1 or 10, where there are no risk
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
try with small amount of money. You will lose a lot of before you get knowledge about making profit
legendary
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BTC or BUST
November 27, 2015, 10:45:08 PM

So basically it's the same like trading with stocks or forex? I mean if someone has experience with any of them, then it's an advantage in trading BTC or it's a special market with special things to learn before you can become a successfull trader here?
Are all of the exchanges good enough to start trading or there are exchanges for people with different experience level (and/or bankroll)?

There are a lot of exchanges..  http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/ and I only know a few personally..

I doubt there are many, if any, exchanges that you would be at a disadvantage at with less than .5 BTC.. Just make sure you aren't bottoming out on the minumum fees to where they impose a greater % fee because you are so small, and some have a minimum withdraw amount.. Do some research on ones you think you may like before jumping in head first..

I personally think trading crypto is a lot different than stocks and forex. Prices change in crypto for seemingly no reason all the time, just look at how many people are trying to figure out what caused the recent BTC pumps.. I don't think chart analysis and those sort of market indicators apply very well to crypto either because crypto is too random. 
hero member
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Vires in Numeris
November 27, 2015, 06:24:30 PM
Is there a kind of stop-loss thing in BTC trading that you have in forex? Just to be on the safe side if market goes opposite your prediction in the end and you don't want to lose all your bankroll in the very first trade... I'm just asking because I don't want to do day trade because I can't check the price during the working hours so I need something to close my position if price starts to move agains me.

Yes most exchanges have ways to put in a stop loss and/or triggers to execute trades if the price reaches your target. Triggers and stop losses are a very good idea..

It is all about risk management and stopping loss is a huge part of being successful.. If you make 5 trades, loose 1% each on 4 of them but make 12% on one good trade you are up 8%.

You cannot make a good trade every time IMO, you only have to make a few good trades of many as long as your gains in the good trades outweigh your losses in not so good trades.
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So basically it's the same like trading with stocks or forex? I mean if someone has experience with any of them, then it's an advantage in trading BTC or it's a special market with special things to learn before you can become a successfull trader here?
Are all of the exchanges good enough to start trading or there are exchanges for people with different experience level (and/or bankroll)?
legendary
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BTC or BUST
November 25, 2015, 02:19:46 PM
I'm new in trading, but in last week i earned about 0.01 BTC on trading.
The quantity of your realized profits alone is a mostly useless identifier of the trades success..

For example if you invested 100 BTC into the trade and made .01 this is typical of barely getting out by the skin of your teeth and the risk vs reward for this trade would almost certinly not be worth it..

Or if you invested .001 into the trade and made .01 this is an excellent trade indeed. Try to think of it as a percentage gain rather than just the quantity of realized profits.

Well it was more following some news and people's talking.
My favorite indicator, Trollbox hype..

I didn't have patience to wait cause of that I didn't earn more but for first times I think its enough.
I believe this may be a good trading characteristic to have, if you have a habit of selling too early at least you are locking in positive profits. Any gain is a good gain.

And 10k satoshis is maybe good for some new coins,but for some better ones u need much more.
The more you put on a trade the harder it gets to get all of it in and then get all of it back out the market must have more liquidity.. You have better chances of making a good trade with less invested because it will be much easier for you to get the best market price.

Once you start trading with enough BTC to push smaller markets around you will know what I mean.

Also find some good traders and folow their posts or tweets. Good luck man!

Think of the psychology behind what others say. If someone says "Buy DGB" most times what they really mean is "Buy my sell orders" or if they sit there rambling on about how good some coin is it's very likely they are trying to hype to pump the market so they can sell. Also a lot of the time someone will FUD in attempt to bring the price down so they can buy cheaper.. There is almost always a motive or personal agenda behind what they say. They are saying whatever they think will make for the best outcome for them personally.

legendary
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November 25, 2015, 01:58:25 PM
#99
There is absolutely no fixed amount that you can start with when it comes to trading. The best thing is to always start with a proper research to find the area you are investing. After doing so, you will be able to make a plan and just try to see the resources that will make you start the work. I ca say that when it comes to trading, your passion and attitude stands tall against any other factors. You can have lots of money but not will to trade in a certain field then end up in losses.

When it comes to Bitcoin there is definitely not a fixed amount for investing. I know some one who have bought only $30 worth of Bitcoin. Just to test where Bitcoin goes. If it's worth a lot one day, then fine, if not then fine too.
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November 25, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
#98
There is absolutely no fixed amount that you can start with when it comes to trading. The best thing is to always start with a proper research to find the area you are investing. After doing so, you will be able to make a plan and just try to see the resources that will make you start the work. I ca say that when it comes to trading, your passion and attitude stands tall against any other factors. You can have lots of money but not will to trade in a certain field then end up in losses.
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November 24, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
#97
It is better not to be a day trader. 90% of day trader will lose money. One reason is that the trading cost fees. The second reason you cannot sell at the top and buy at the bottom most of the time.

But yet there are enough daytraders... right.

Their incentive must be profit. I think they trade in big volumes and with that they don't need to sell at the top. When the bitcoin price is let's say 240 USD and they sell 100 bitcons at 250 USD. their profit is 1000 - 200 (fee) = around 800 usd. That's just 1 day...From the other 29 days they need just 2 more days like that and they have a nice income.

I do however think this is very risky.
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