Hello,
For those who can be interested , i just modify a bit and bring the node js app from cazala into a docker container. So you can juste run it with your key site (coinhive or other) and that's it, you are mining.
https://hub.docker.com/r/deckbsd/coinhive-heaven/
Topic: Mining Monero with CPU (Read 2172 times)
Laptop is not a good option for mining Monero.
I suggest to build a dedicated mining rig.
I suggest to build a dedicated mining rig.
Mine with the CPU must certainly have a high speck, can not be done with a CPU that has a regular speck. The CPU used to mine must be able to withstand high temperatures, because during mining the CPU will continue to work for several hours. Associated with window 10 or other it depends on the application used. But it's better to use windows that support mine effectively.
I design power electronics for a living and I can assure you that products are almost never made to be capable of running at 100% max power continuously. Is it good engineering to put in some kind of thermal throttling? Absolutely, but higher temperature operation always results in reduced lifespan (the rule of thumb - based on the Arrhenius equation from chemistry, oddly enough - is that every 10C increase in temp cuts lifespan in half).
And as QuintLeo pointed out, laptops are not really intended to be used 24/7 anyway. Heck, cordless tools, automobile engines, arc welders and all sorts of other commonly used things would quickly die if run at max rated output.
And as QuintLeo pointed out, laptops are not really intended to be used 24/7 anyway. Heck, cordless tools, automobile engines, arc welders and all sorts of other commonly used things would quickly die if run at max rated output.
In computers, SERVER designs are intended to run at 100% load 24/7 - but that's about the only thing in Computers that is designed for that sort of condition.
LAPTOPS are too cramped to provide the kind of cooling design to ALLOW for that sort of use - the primary design consideration for almost all LAPTOPS is "long battery life" and doing everything practical to save on power usage.
Cars can handle running 24/7 - if you run them WAY UNDER their max speed.
Even most "endurance" type race cars aren't designed to handle running more than 1 day at a time - and a LOT of them break during races DESPITE being "designed to handle the stress".
You actually just completely agreed with what I wrote! Servers are an exception, perhaps, in that they are designed - or specified, anyway - for operation at maximum load, but like anything else they will last longer if run at reduced load.
Oh, I see a mistake in what I wrote: the last line should read, "...would quickly die if run at max rated output continuously," to reiterate the similar statement made earlier.
With all thermal management features modern CPU's use, having thermal induced damage in modern hardware it's simply not justifiable anymore.
If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.
My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.
If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.
My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.
I design power electronics for a living and I can assure you that products are almost never made to be capable of running at 100% max power continuously. Is it good engineering to put in some kind of thermal throttling? Absolutely, but higher temperature operation always results in reduced lifespan (the rule of thumb - based on the Arrhenius equation from chemistry, oddly enough - is that every 10C increase in temp cuts lifespan in half).
And as QuintLeo pointed out, laptops are not really intended to be used 24/7 anyway. Heck, cordless tools, automobile engines, arc welders and all sorts of other commonly used things would quickly die if run at max rated output.
In computers, SERVER designs are intended to run at 100% load 24/7 - but that's about the only thing in Computers that is designed for that sort of condition.
LAPTOPS are too cramped to provide the kind of cooling design to ALLOW for that sort of use - the primary design consideration for almost all LAPTOPS is "long battery life" and doing everything practical to save on power usage.
Cars can handle running 24/7 - if you run them WAY UNDER their max speed.
Even most "endurance" type race cars aren't designed to handle running more than 1 day at a time - and a LOT of them break during races DESPITE being "designed to handle the stress".
With all thermal management features modern CPU's use, having thermal induced damage in modern hardware it's simply not justifiable anymore.
If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.
My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.
If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.
My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.
I design power electronics for a living and I can assure you that products are almost never made to be capable of running at 100% max power continuously. Is it good engineering to put in some kind of thermal throttling? Absolutely, but higher temperature operation always results in reduced lifespan (the rule of thumb - based on the Arrhenius equation from chemistry, oddly enough - is that every 10C increase in temp cuts lifespan in half).
And as QuintLeo pointed out, laptops are not really intended to be used 24/7 anyway. Heck, cordless tools, automobile engines, arc welders and all sorts of other commonly used things would quickly die if run at max rated output continuously.
EDIT - appended continuously to last sentence... forgot that the first time.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Laptops are not INTENDED for 24/7 or constant high-workload usage - never have been, never WILL be.
Their small size limits how much heat they CAN dissipate, that's inherent and unavoidable if you are going to have a laptop that CAN BE a laptop.
There used to be a form factor commonly known as "luggable", but it died 'cause it wasn't portable ENOUGH and was still somewhat lower performance than a true desktop.
Most DESKTOPS aren't intended for that sort of usage.
Running a laptop 24/7 or at constant high load is NOT normal usage for them that the manufacturer can be expected to TRY to design for.
With all thermal management features modern CPU's use, having thermal induced damage in modern hardware it's simply not justifiable anymore.
If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.
My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Laptops are not INTENDED for 24/7 or constant high-workload usage - never have been, never WILL be.
Their small size limits how much heat they CAN dissipate, that's inherent and unavoidable if you are going to have a laptop that CAN BE a laptop.
There used to be a form factor commonly known as "luggable", but it died 'cause it wasn't portable ENOUGH and was still somewhat lower performance than a true desktop.
Most DESKTOPS aren't intended for that sort of usage.
Running a laptop 24/7 or at constant high load is NOT normal usage for them that the manufacturer can be expected to TRY to design for.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Before it burns,it will freeze...(it's funny to write this)
Normally using 100% cpu should not burn your laptop,but it will slow down your normal use,so it is non sence to mine and to use an extremly slow laptop.(this is as well for all PCs.)
It is why it is interesting when the user can set the mining power heself.
The most important is if you mine or not to have the fan clean and not full of dust.
I mine on it when I'm not working, of course. Because it is only a dual core / 4 Mb cache CPU, doing something else will bring Hashrate down to 30-50, no point on that. I leave it on a mRain design aluminum stand, connected to power source.
Even so, as I said, 130 H/s on 15W is not bad.
And pay attention that mining monero is not that hard on CPU. It doesn't use hyperthreading. Windows taks manager shows xmr-stak-cpu using 60% of CPU.
CPU Mining of Monero ist still possible in the background with good hashrates, even if you are working on the desktop. With my i5 i get 150 H/s still when i'am working, mining on xmrpool.
With your hashrate, you should earn on my system using it few minutes.
But do not forget that my system is 90% a game profit and only 10% mining profit.
The game consists to earn more that otherwhere...it's all.
Why mine by winspiral if one can earn more other where and why mine otherwhere if one can earn more by winspiral.
If you are able to take the best profit from my system,then you earn more...i do not say you earn much,but you earn more.
Why earn less if you can earn more by winspiral?
I let you answer yourself.
I have members who mine by winspiral few minutes daily...so long they earn for these few minutes more then otherwhere,so long they will keep up mining by winspiral.
But perhaps they have to change the strategy...perhaps mining few minutes more or few minutes less.
You are the mining managers...you chose your strategy.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Before it burns,it will freeze...(it's funny to write this)
Normally using 100% cpu should not burn your laptop,but it will slow down your normal use,so it is non sence to mine and to use an extremly slow laptop.(this is as well for all PCs.)
It is why it is interesting when the user can set the mining power heself.
The most important is if you mine or not to have the fan clean and not full of dust.
I mine on it when I'm not working, of course. Because it is only a dual core / 4 Mb cache CPU, doing something else will bring Hashrate down to 30-50, no point on that. I leave it on a mRain design aluminum stand, connected to power source.
Even so, as I said, 130 H/s on 15W is not bad.
And pay attention that mining monero is not that hard on CPU. It doesn't use hyperthreading. Windows taks manager shows xmr-stak-cpu using 60% of CPU.
CPU Mining of Monero ist still possible in the background with good hashrates, even if you are working on the desktop. With my i5 i get 150 H/s still when i'am working, mining on xmrpool.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Before it burns,it will freeze...(it's funny to write this)
Normally using 100% cpu should not burn your laptop,but it will slow down your normal use,so it is non sence to mine and to use an extremly slow laptop.(this is as well for all PCs.)
It is why it is interesting when the user can set the mining power heself.
The most important is if you mine or not to have the fan clean and not full of dust.
I mine on it when I'm not working, of course. Because it is only a dual core / 4 Mb cache CPU, doing something else will bring Hashrate down to 30-50, no point on that. I leave it on a mRain design aluminum stand, connected to power source.
Even so, as I said, 130 H/s on 15W is not bad.
And pay attention that mining monero is not that hard on CPU. It doesn't use hyperthreading. Windows taks manager shows xmr-stak-cpu using 60% of CPU.
Hey Guys Im interested in possibly mining monero with my cpu on a laptop. I'm currently mining zoin but I heard you can mine monero as well with a cpu. Is it still possible to mine it and also does anyone know where I can find a how to guide for mining it with windows 10?
Thanks
it will be good for you if you use desktop for mining.you can mine monero using your laptop but it will causes heat that will reduce your laptop's speed and also durability. if you use laptop then make sure cooling system is super.but best option is using desktop with better cooling system. Thanks
my desktop i5 2500 without OC and standard cooling makes ~200h/s on monero with cryptonight @max. 60°C and 40Watt
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Before it burns,it will freeze...(it's funny to write this)
Normally using 100% cpu should not burn your laptop,but it will slow down your normal use,so it is non sence to mine and to use an extremly slow laptop.(this is as well for all PCs.)
It is why it is interesting when the user can set the mining power heself.
The most important is if you mine or not to have the fan clean and not full of dust.
Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.
I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...
Sure you can mine monero using your CPU however if you are using your laptop CPU you would risk damaging it. If you really want to mine using a CPU better off buying a desktop GPU if you wait until next month or March the unlock i3's and i5's of Intel's coffee lake alosng with entry level motherboard will be released. Or if you want go buy a AMD Ryzen CPU. Any of the Ryzen 5 would be good for starters or if you are on a budget go for a Ryzen 3.
I mine intense on my Lenovo Yoga 910. 130 H/s in a 15w CPU is not bad.
I also have my Surface (go figure) connected 24/7 mining verium for more than a month and it still didn't die.
I also have my Surface (go figure) connected 24/7 mining verium for more than a month and it still didn't die.
Consider building yourself a decent computer with good cooling,
from my experience it is not worth the time mining from a laptop even with the best cpu.. you laptop may abandon you too out of abuse
it is why I have programmed a system where you are not only paid for your mining,but as well for your strategy.
My system is the only system allowing you to earn a $cent with only few hashes.
I have never seen this otherwhere.
i think you should mine zoin with cpu
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