Topic: 'Mission accomplished': Mexican President says 'El Chapo' caught - page 2. (Read 2868 times)

The last crime boss that Sean Penn had an interview with before El Chapo didn´t fare so well. Rest in peace Tony 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrfpy1_rescuing-tony-killing-tony-part-3-from-carlito-s-way-1993_shortfilms

They can´t lose him now that they´ve stated that he´ll be extradited to the U.S., even if they wanted. There would be no excuse at all. The government would have to resign.  

Hopefully they can hold onto him this time

El Chapo said it himself and to me he made a very intelligent comment to the actual situation: there will always be drug abuse and drug demand simply because it is a huge business.

Now Sean Penn will probably will face the consequences of his action by being part of the aformentioned interview: I don't see what's the problem with it.

Nothing will change after this, everything will be the same.
Someone else will replace 'El Chapo', government will not show real determinations and will to stop this criminals but will use this event to show that they are doing something, and average people will still suffer.
I predict that he will escape prison again, very soon

This Guzman guy doesn´t seem too smart, being in contact with Hollywood and the media. Everything leaks and then the police follow the trail. It´s probably a vanity attack, the media was making some sort of hero out of him.

Good lord Sean Penn is everywhere. Im sure we will be seeing a documentary about this from Penn very soon.

Heres the interview with El Chapo from Sean Penn after he escaped:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/world/americas/el-chapo-mexican-drug-lord-interview-with-sean-penn.html?_r=0

Well said. War sometimes is necessary, if there needs to be war than thats how it should be. But like you said, too many people make to much money when theres war. When that much money is being made, there will always be a war.

Well, I mentioned sanitizing and exterminating pests. I´m not really referring to the occasional drug lord here. I´m talking wholesale.

Dropping paratroopers and special forces to secure the periphery and prevent escape, then the clean up crew rolls in, remember?

There is no real will in the government to deal with this problem. The war on drugs is another of these endless wars that drag on forever and only increase the problems. There are too many on the take and too big interests on both sides. Wars need to be as short as possible and ruthless and brutal. That saves both lives and money in the long turn.

Drugs are fun, I fully understand why we (the US) use them so much. There's alot of things that need to be done to fix this problem, too many to list here thats for sure.

Catching one drug lord isnt going to fix the problem, theres always going to be someone else willing to step up and take his place. Until we turn the muti-billion $$ "faucet" off things like this are just going to get worse. Dont even get me started on the War on Drugs, more than $51,000,000,000 was spent in 2015 on that "war". 

I guess the barrel is full already. To stop it running over constantly it´s probably best to turn the tap off or at least decrease the water flow and then start lowering the water level.

Of course both have to be done and there´s plenty of money to do both.

I fully agree that something needs to be done to fix this problem. With that being said, perhaps the resources that would be used to "clean up" the scum running around near the border could be used for other things. By other things I mean appropriate measures of fixing America's appetite for drugs. America is the number 1 consumer of drugs in the world, thats no secret, but what is being done to fix this?

As a recovering Opiate addict (3 years clean), I can truly say that the resources needed in order to get clean are not easily accessed. The cost's of rehab, medications and such are out of this world expensive.

Besides funding a "clean up" campaign, maybe the US government should focus on making the facilities and methods of getting clean more accessible to the people that truly need it.

Nip it in the butt

Not at all pointless and relatively quick. These endless wars on terror  half a world away are supposed to be for protecting the American People which is a total lie. Cleaning up criminal scum running around  on the border of the United States does a lot for the security of Americans, at the very least those millions that live in the adjoining areas.

I´m not sure that it´s big enough to be called a war actually. It´s just about sanitizing a certain area. Exterminating pests. Not very complicated or time consuming. It also sends a very direct message. Return and you´ll be dealt with in the same manner.

And P.S. Robbie, please try to put your finger on my argument here if you want to discuss this. Opinions alone don´t work. I assume that you know the difference between these two concepts.

Yet again another pointless war for the US. You would think everyone here in the US would be tired of war, but yet people are so adamant that "the US is the best country in the world", and think war will help solve many issues. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Well, the scumbag will be extradited to the U.S. apparently so he should be securely out of circulation for the rest of his life.

A Mexican official tells the AP El Chapo was captured as a result of Sean Penn’s apparently not-so-clandestine meeting with the drug lord last October, a report that, if true, should ensure Penn sleeps somewhat uneasily for the rest of his life.



Though Penn outlines many of the security measures he was able to observe throughout the rambling, 11,000-word piece, the meeting was ultimately arranged by the Mexican film star Kate del Castillo who, according to Penn, communicated with El Chapo via BBM. ABC News also reports Penn and del Castillo are both under investigation by the Mexican government. That report, if true, would indicate neither actor were aware they had been tracked. (If the highly convenient AP report is to be believed—earlier reports indicate officials caught up to the drug lord when he tried to cast his biopic.)

 
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Honestly—who knows? Definitely not Sean Penn.

Either way, is hanging with Spicoli worth the loss of your freedom? Some, like Charlize Theron, say no. Others also say... no.

http://gawker.com/mexican-official-el-chapo-got-caught-because-of-the-se-1752057854?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

It´s the American Way - Supply and Demand. When the supply is lacking, create it.

Kurtwood Smith explains this concisely to Kris Kristofferson in this clip from Flashpoint (1984)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf_KhBVjexY

There is a better solution than legalizing drugs.

People forget that they want freedom. But if they remember, they don't think it through.

What if it wasn't drugs. What if it was your hair comb in your pocket. What if government regulated your hair comb. If your hair comb isn't regulated in your area, what can you do with it? Anything you want, right? As long as you are not hurting someone else with it, you can do anything you want, right?

If government made some kind of law that said it was okay to have a hair comb in your pocket, haven't they regulated it? No! They have regulated you. If you want freedom, you don't want regulation. You might want information, like how keeping a hair comb outside of your pocket for more than 5 minutes at a time, is dangerous for you and other people. But you don't want to be told what to do... that you are required by law to do it.

Get government out of legalization. But first, get them out of illegalization. Get them out of regulation of your personal property, because the truth is, when they regulate stuff, they are really regulating their property. And their property that they are regulating is YOU, not some comb, and not some drugs.

If you need government regulation in your life, because you are so wimpy that you can't determine when someone has hurt you, let them regulate only the people who harm other people. This way you can be free. But if you don't like freedom, at least get government out of other peoples' lives so that they can be free.

Don't legalize drugs, but don't illegalize them either. Repeal all the laws against drug use, and leave people alone to run their own lives. But punish them when they hurt other people.