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If you don't know, the forum is the one of the preferred places where mixers run their ads. With Sinbad been linked with laundering money for the North Korean Lazarus group, and forum members under investigation for receiving funds from a blacklisted address. What do you think would happen next? If Theymos was to fold his arms and watch, things could get worse and the forum could be shut down. With everything going on right now, it's best if the forum distances itself from mixers. It's a difficulty decision but it had to be made. If you think the admin was wrong and you won't respect it, then it's up to you. 
Topic: Mixers Signatures : A challenge or Respect (Read 677 times)
Why this new topic? Theymos already made everything crystal clear in his post on the mixer ban on the forum, anything campaign managers and their participants decide to do before the 31st of this month is their choice/decision, why are you concerned about it?
It is more than obvious to me why - he is not the only one trying to profit from this topic and get some merits. He (and everyone else) who have some doubts about questions concerning this topic could have asked those same questions in the main topic, but the irresistible desire to be OP is stronger from themselves.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
You are out of line by creating this thread, Theymos gave the campaign managers a grace period of one month out of respect for the campaign managers and the participants, he knows and understands that there is a contract and an obligation involved in running a signature campaign and by posting this you are disrespecting the campaign managers and the participants because you do not know how everything works in a signature campaign.
Anyone who's already enrolled in those signature campaigns should wear their signatures before 1st Jan 2024 and earn any possible revenue as they can from those signature campaigns. Theymos has taken the decision because there were many cases of mixers and that's why he didn't want the forum or its members to face any hard time from any authority. I guess banning of mixers is for the benefit of the forum.
I know that there are many good mixers on the forum that are doing great but in past many mixers have shown bad results and many were seized by the authorities due to the malpractices. Theymos allowed the good mixers and they signature campaigns to run for a whole month and that's more than enough. So during that time the ones who are already enrolled in those campaigns should grab the revenue that they generate from those campaigns and they should remove those signature codes from their profiles before 1st Jan 2024.
I know that there are many good mixers on the forum that are doing great but in past many mixers have shown bad results and many were seized by the authorities due to the malpractices. Theymos allowed the good mixers and they signature campaigns to run for a whole month and that's more than enough. So during that time the ones who are already enrolled in those campaigns should grab the revenue that they generate from those campaigns and they should remove those signature codes from their profiles before 1st Jan 2024.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
Just because you are still wearing the signature does not mean you do not have respect for Theymos' announcement, the participant is also respecting their obligation to their campaign manager and they are honoring it by continuously wearing the signature, what is disrespectful is still wearing or promoting mixers after the announcement date, I don't see it as disrespecting Theymos by not taking the signature out before the date.
Mixer signature campaigns aren't the only signature campaigns around. There are other more. Are you saying that removing mixer signatures will kill the ecosystem of the forum? Don't overreact. 
Without problems from mixers, theymos even considered to ban signature advertisements too. Signatures and signature advertisements were not here at beginning so the forum will not be killed even if all signatures are banned.It will not, but the traffic will reduce as users will be reduce in numbers as well. I think we have to be realistic here, one of the reasons that our forum got more popular is because of signature campaigns, so there's no reason removing or banning it, and I believe there was already a solution to that problem in the past by introducing the merit system.
We can't compare the discussion about sig camp and the recent news about mixers which the law might go after of those violators or the source of such. So it's understandable why we are in this situation now, but there's still time, we can brainstorm and maybe the forum would be able to come up with some good ideas that could change for the better, afterall, that's how forum should work.
What does this have to do with respecting forum decisions? If Thymos has given the validity period until the end of December, is it disrespectful to the forum to continue wearing the signature until then? . Come on!!!
If Thymos had wanted to stop the campaigns before that, he would have told everyone clearly about his decision!!!
I don't know what's the point of opening this topic in the first place. Everyone respects the forum and Thymos's decision and everything will be stopped before the start of the new year exactly as scheduled. What more do you want?
If Thymos had wanted to stop the campaigns before that, he would have told everyone clearly about his decision!!!
I don't know what's the point of opening this topic in the first place. Everyone respects the forum and Thymos's decision and everything will be stopped before the start of the new year exactly as scheduled. What more do you want?
Thymos gave us a chance to wear it till 31 dec and the rules will be implemented from 1jan for no one is violating any rules here. If wearing the signature until 31dec let you think that its a challenge and if not wearing it respect then it is up to you. Many people depend on the signature so they are not thinking about any challenges or respect here.
No banning of discussing Bitcoin services.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service?
Come to think of it, you're right. It's just sad we don't know what the outcome of theymos' directive will be going forward or if he was pressured into taking such a decision. This is Bitcointalk, a forum that prides itself on discussing issues related to bitcoin and its decentralized and anonymous nature. Mixers tend to capture that nature.We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service?
I will also do some more donations to the links above.
Frankly, I feel touched by your level of philanthropy and wish the ban on mixers here didn't happen. No doubt, I know you will get another campaign as a quality poster that you're but it seems mixer campaigns are the highest paying ones and can easily allow you cover more donations. It takes a person of great mind to give to others. Ride on! 
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
I was prepaid six months and I sent back almost all that coin to tumbler
I wont reveal my loss but it was over 500 a month for six months.
I sent more than have the coin back my loss was in the thousands.
I could send the small amount back and stop this signature.
But my position is mixers are a tool a hammer is a tool a chainsaw is a tool.
tools can be good or bad.
I used my signature funds to donate to three forum members. and to a mempool tracker
talk img developer see thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/talkimgcom-image-hosting-for-bitcointalk-5450546
mempool info developer see link https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC,24h,weight
history of btc author see thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/book-the-bitcoin-history-book-2008-2024-progress-report-update-04122023-5469588
difficulty prediction give away. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5431167
I will continue to run this signature until dec 31
unless theymos pms me or posts me to end it.
I will also do some more donations to the links above.
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
That comment of yours sent me rolling on the floor. But of course, milk all possibilities oh thee citizen of planet earth 😂Me as well hahahaha this is so great. Milk whatever you can out of it for as long as possible. But the good thing about this is that there are plenty of campaigns that aren't mixers that are just gambling sites that can be used, like the one shown below
We don't have to repeat this anymore and already the post has been pinned and anyone who is wearing mixers should be able to remain submissive to the forum as theymos has given instructions, before 1 January 2024 and if your signature still exist then you are likely to get ban because it was given a grace of 4 weeks without immediately shorting down all operation of mixers so this duration is enough for you to decide to remove it or not. Removing it before the due date shows a solid respect to the forum and only to Theymos but also for the love we shares commonly on the forum so whatever theymos says should be obeyed and honored.
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
This forum have controller and theymos is the existing controller of the forum, so I believe that no signature campaign or participants will disobey the order of theymos, by January first as it instructed many people who is promoting mixer will remove their avatar, remember theymos said in January if you post on behalf of mixer by January you will get ban but the post you make this year 2023 with mixers promotion will not lead you to ban. So their is no authority that is higher than theymos and what he did is right because he wants the interest of the forum. Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
You aren't part of sig campaigns so would you've resigned from if you were earning each week?
If theymos hasn't called for it why're you questioning his decision. There isn't legal pressure on him to take this step or else it would've halted immediately. He's given a grace period to unwind. You could've asked in the same topic. You've started a topic on something it doesn't deserve discussion.
If theymos hasn't called for it why're you questioning his decision. There isn't legal pressure on him to take this step or else it would've halted immediately. He's given a grace period to unwind. You could've asked in the same topic. You've started a topic on something it doesn't deserve discussion.
Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible
To avoid disruption, there will be a grace period: Nothing will change until Jan 1, 2024.
No one is getting tagged fraudulent or banned or getting a negative trust rating for still having a Mixer signature. It does not violate forum policy nor rules and it isn't a thing of crime in the real world, why would one do away with his signature?
I see no reason why grace period should not be 'enjoyed' till its over. Anyone can continue with his signature campaign till the time appointed to get it stopped
I see no reason why grace period should not be 'enjoyed' till its over. Anyone can continue with his signature campaign till the time appointed to get it stopped
Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
I believe the decision might be in agreement or disagreement with that of theymos before anyone could decide it.The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
If I agree with him, that's when I can be thinking of letting the signature go even before the stipulated time. And by agreeing with him, I must have had my displeasure on the campaign too that made me not want to have anything to do with such a signature again. You know we people think differently and have different integrity. But for me, I would most likely have dropped the signature immediately, though I judge no one as there's still a grace when all must drop it, so if their conscience doesn't prick them, they are free to continue to wear it until forced to drop it.
But those whose view doesn't align with that of theymos, of course, will keep it until the 1st of January, 2024 when the system will render it useless.
Mixer campaigns might be popular, but they're not the only fish in the sea. People make it sound like banning Mixer sigs will totally wreck the forum ecosystem. That seems pretty overdramatic. Heck, even now there's more non-mixer signatures than mixer stuff. I'd bet my bottom dollar folks will keep on advertising in signatures and well probably see more instant exchange services, decentralized exchanges, and stuff like that advertised instead. Banning one thing doesn't get rid of people's drive to promote their biz. It just redirects things a bit.
This has nothing to do with forum economy, I don't give a single sat if there is no economy at all, only God provides.Nobody is going to actually die even if this forum is shut down.
The whole point is to fight against oppression, whether theymos or governments, what is important is to know where people draw the line to fight or back down.
We are asking nothing out of the norms, just tell us how are you going to moderate such a forum? Read the first post in the announcement thread, tell me how is that even possible to moderate?
Not to mention, he is now violating his own country's laws by doing this, so what kind of a community are we? When the admin doesn't obey US laws just in fear of unknown implications in the future? Are we going to break the rules to show that we are obedient to the rules?
Edit: lol I posted in a wrong thread.😂
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
This decision will of course come down to the platform developer and campaign manager. so there will be discussions taking place. especially for those who have deposited funds in escrow. whether to continue or have to stop immediately and return the funds that have been in escrow.
It's certainly a difficult decision to make. but the forum had already decided before the forum could be found guilty because it was said to be supporting problematic mixing. because when a mixer has a problem and is stopped, it doesn't take long for there to be a new mixer.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
There is no point having to fast forward a rule that has been by designed to have its effect kicked off on the first of January. It’s clearly written on the news field and has got an active thread for it. I get it that, time zones might be different but, forum time stays UTC which would count towards this action and I see most of the users promoting a mixer at the time to be some of the smart ones in the forum, highly concerned with the safety and integrity of their user to note be conscious enough knowing the risk involved.I would also hope to see some notifications be sent out by forum administrators to concerned users as well as managers in the event that they get carried away by the festivity and I see the forum playing some rule in having some of these threads archived amongst other means of repose.
Until the appointed time draws near, there isn’t a need to hasten up what would be. Who knows, we could have a change to the decision!
Mixer campaigns might be popular, but they're not the only fish in the sea. People make it sound like banning Mixer sigs will totally wreck the forum ecosystem. That seems pretty overdramatic. Heck, even now there's more non-mixer signatures than mixer stuff. I'd bet my bottom dollar folks will keep on advertising in signatures and well probably see more instant exchange services, decentralized exchanges, and stuff like that advertised instead. Banning one thing doesn't get rid of people's drive to promote their biz. It just redirects things a bit.
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