So many loopholes were found in the implementation of this censorship, so it will be very interesting to see how the moderators manage this in practice. Different interpretations will cause new discussions, so it is to be expected that the Meta section will be full of questions about whether any discussion is in accordance with these strange rules.
It is very strange if you think it through.
We will have to rephrase our Bitcoin Talk posts and talk in a different manner because of this new policy. I will be afraid to post a new reply because WHAT IF I get banned for even MENTIONING something I was not supposed to. New members of the Forum will ask innocent questions that may now get them banned.
Feels like just another website of 2023. You either say what you are supposed to or you are out. Shadow banned or banned entirely.
Then you look at the whole forum and wonder why the fuck is this thread even a thing. 1xBit has advertised a scam service for a VERY long time on Bitcoin Talk with no repercussions. So many members took actually criminal money from a criminal service and many of them are still around continuing to advertise. See kotwica666 (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kotwica666-303259), the rise (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/the-rise-922508) and more. A lot of the 1xBit Signature Campaign participants are not active any more but still promote their Scam in their Signature and Avatar.
Here is where I draw a small line and get to the result. So Scams which are literal criminals affecting MANY Bitcoin Talk readers are welcome here but Mixers get banned because they affect the freedom of theymos? I do not say theymos should stop worrying about his freedom. But it seems more reasonable to care for every body and it seems kind of weird to see scammers hanging around here free and pretty much spitting on every single victim on this 'freedom of a Forum' but then theymos feels threatened once and he cracks down on Mixers.
Not only this. But theymos, have you ever looked at the Services board? Some body is selling 'Anonymous debit cards with no KYC' opened under some body elses name (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-crypto-loadable-bitcoin-debit-card-no-kyc-private-card-services-5244746). This thread has been active since 2020. How legal is it to have Debit Cards sold on Bitcoin Talk?
It is baffling. I can talk about 1xBit and I think I will not get banned even if I start promoting their Signature TODAY. Or if I mentioned their link in many of my posts. I can buy actual Debit Cards from REAL BANKS and use them. But I can not talk about Mixers no more?
Anyway. I said this many times in the past and will repeat it. If Mixers are proved to TRULY be a criminal tool and a majority of the Mixing Transactions is crime. Then ban them. I am not supporting crime in any way and will never do it. But I have yet to see an Authority proving Mixers are as bad as they make it seem.
It is even possible to register on Google without KYC. It's a bit unbelievable to me that this is a theymos statement.
I missed this statement completely. It is outrageous to see theymos pointing out non Know Your Customer as an indication for a 'criminal Service'. What in the world!
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I don't see the point: criminals already know what they're doing is illegal. It sounds like a gun shop putting up a sign: "don't rob banks". Innocent people weren't going to do it, and the bad guys already know robbing banks is not allowed.
But then what is the point of banning Mixers on Bitcoin Talk. Particularly if theymos has not even received a warning from any Authority at all. Innocent people do not have criminal funds to send through Mixers and the bad guys already know using criminal funds is already not allowed as per most Terms of Services of most Mixers.
I think there are so many more things theymos could receive a warning from Authorities about. Some of them worse than Mixers. Maybe the hundreds of Scam ICOs and all the Scam Services that have ever been promoted here? It seems like Bitcoin Talk is fine with advertising actual Scams!