The only reason I even got involved in this mess was because I was trying to get some basic info and feedback from the community on this coin before buying, and instead ran into 200+ pages of useless infighting. I noticed the method of the spammer (fudder?) is always to create fear and diversion from rational discussion of the subject at hand. When confronted by hard facts and reasonable, logic based questions, they will not provide a rational rebuttal, because they simply cannot. They will then divert the thread by spamming garbage rumors or picking fights, thereby creating an emotional response which provides a great deal of entertainment, but does no good in determining the issue at hand. People love drama. I would really like to go back to shutting the fuck up, which I excel at. Just use some common sense, and it's easy to figure out who is full of shit. Sayonara.
Topic: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea - page 188. (Read 227157 times)
July 13, 2014, 07:28:16 AM
If it's a scam I'll loose what I can afford to loose. If it's not - I'll make some. However, if all goes well it's going to be more than just make some coin, it's going to create new markets with people creating other commodity-backed crypto. The old money Western commodity exchange whales won't jump on the band wagon; they'll try to stop it instead. So, companies like GES will lead the way. There will be legit foundations and outright scams. Right now I'm just trying to get into a habit of distinguishing the two. Pointless FUD is so pointless, but asking questions, researching, and trying to find answers would help telling scams from the legit startups in the future.
July 13, 2014, 07:27:39 AM
StartJOIN Concept for Urea Crowdfunding: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488291972277215232
You're going to crowdfund a 12,500,000 kg order?
What are the projected costs on the sending and receiving ends for the shipping and handling of the 600+ 40'-45' shipping containers, the labor for 100+ workers to load and unload, the fleet of semi-trucks, the ships, etc, etc... ?
Things shipped in containers - Not urea.
Way to research, dude.
LOL how do you think things are shipped internationally in large quantities? Cardboard boxes? Bags?
A shipping container is a 45-foot long metal storage container that looks like one of those things behind a semi-truck where the trailer goes.
Way to show your general-knowledge skills, dude.
http://qdxinglu.en.alibaba.com/product/623553468-213625275/urea_container.html
For 12,500 metric tonnes?
Bulk carriers.
As opposed to your genius plan of 600 containers.
You keep up your googling though. I'm sure it'll make you smart some day.
July 13, 2014, 07:22:23 AM
StartJOIN Concept for Urea Crowdfunding: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488291972277215232
You're going to crowdfund a 12,500,000 kg order?
What are the projected costs on the sending and receiving ends for the shipping and handling of the 600+ 40'-45' shipping containers, the labor for 100+ workers to load and unload, the fleet of semi-trucks, the ships, etc, etc... ?
Things shipped in containers - Not urea.
Way to research, dude.
LOL how do you think things are shipped internationally in large quantities? Cardboard boxes? Bags?
A shipping container is a 45-foot long metal storage container that looks like one of those things behind a semi-truck where the trailer goes.
Way to show your general-knowledge skills, dude.
http://qdxinglu.en.alibaba.com/product/623553468-213625275/urea_container.html
July 13, 2014, 07:19:00 AM
StartJOIN Concept for Urea Crowdfunding: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488291972277215232
You're going to crowdfund a 12,500,000 kg order?
What are the projected costs on the sending and receiving ends for the shipping and handling of the 600+ 40'-45' shipping containers, the labor for 100+ workers to load and unload, the fleet of semi-trucks, the ships, etc, etc... ?
Things shipped in containers - Not urea.
Way to research, dude.
July 13, 2014, 07:12:28 AM
StartJOIN Concept for Urea Crowdfunding: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488291972277215232
You're going to crowdfund a 12,500,000 kg order?
What are the projected costs on the sending and receiving ends for the shipping and handling of the 600+ 40'-45' shipping containers, the labor for 100+ workers to load and unload, the fleet of semi-trucks, the ships, etc, etc... ?
July 13, 2014, 07:04:56 AM
StartJOIN Concept for Urea Crowdfunding: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488291972277215232
July 13, 2014, 05:48:21 AM
Right. I doubted then.
The evidence has mounted since and now I don't.
I advise you to think very carefully before investing any more in this coin.
You have plenty of time to get in early if it is good. Just keep watching for a while.
I have what I have in it. And I've a bid or two lower than the current price, which just reflects my belief that people will continue to be stupid about this coin.
July 13, 2014, 05:44:06 AM
Right. I doubted then.
The evidence has mounted since and now I don't.
I advise you to think very carefully before investing any more in this coin.
You have plenty of time to get in early if it is good. Just keep watching for a while.
July 13, 2014, 05:35:34 AM
Attempt to FUD while the moderator isn't around.
Pathetic.
Amazed again when looking through your posts, Bitcycle.
Quote from: Bitcycle
The problem is that the evidence that they've actually put the pieced together is pretty flimsy. There needs to be a coherent, easily understood collection of documentation, and there isn't.
So it could just be a clever scam.
So it could just be a clever scam.
So you're allowed to doubt but I'm not?
Right. I doubted then.
The evidence has mounted since and now I don't.
I don't cling irrationally to a position when the situation changes.
The situation has changed.
But please, keep digging through old posts and doing your Internet Detective googling. I'm sure you'll reveal the grand scam!
July 13, 2014, 05:30:05 AM
Attempt to FUD while the moderator isn't around.
Pathetic.
Amazed again when looking through your posts, Bitcycle.
Quote from: Bitcycle
The problem is that the evidence that they've actually put the pieced together is pretty flimsy. There needs to be a coherent, easily understood collection of documentation, and there isn't.
So it could just be a clever scam.
So it could just be a clever scam.
So you're allowed to doubt but I'm not?
July 13, 2014, 05:29:38 AM
Attempt to FUD while the moderator isn't around.
Pathetic.
I'm amazed.
I have simply put into words the current situation that anyone with common sense (even without) can see - the fact that many doubt this project is what it purports to be - and suggested a reasonable way in which this doubt could be confirmed or dispelled. And it's labelled FUD.
No, this is not what you did.
You made the ludicrous assertion that a well-established large company was taking part in a "fake" order as part of some insanely complex scam to defraud the altcoin markets.
It's silly on any level you look at it.
At this point doubting the reality of this project is the irrational belief. You have to sign on to a dozen layers of deception, and that just makes no sense.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
July 13, 2014, 05:22:31 AM
The future of fertiliser purchasing starts soon: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488266743043723264
July 13, 2014, 05:18:42 AM
Welcome to the future of fertiliser purchasing: https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/488265061845065728
July 13, 2014, 05:16:19 AM
Attempt to FUD while the moderator isn't around.
Pathetic.
I'm amazed.
I have simply put into words the current situation that anyone with common sense (even without) can see - the fact that many doubt this project is what it purports to be - and suggested a reasonable way in which this doubt could be confirmed or dispelled. And it's labelled FUD.
That is pathetic.
And by the way, when I made the post there was a green "online" under true-asset.
July 13, 2014, 04:51:58 AM
The fact of the matter is that the company paying for the first shipment has confirmed it. This raises the probability of this being a real thing to around 90-95%.
Nonsense I'm afraid.
The point is, many think this is a con trick.
To make it look legit of course the scammers would arrange for a fake order to go through.
This is why people doing proper due diligence are trying to find out information about / contact ALL parties mentioned in the Uro Protocol, something which is proving incomprehensibly hard to do.
July 13, 2014, 04:26:08 AM
Hey guys, just a reminder that voting is open till 8pm GMT for the new logo which can be found at
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/S3SKL6L
Good opportunity to have your input on the future of URO
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/S3SKL6L
Good opportunity to have your input on the future of URO
July 13, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
Some update to unofficial forums at http://urocointalk.org.
Thank for support and suggestion, the following are some changes.
URO News is added at http://urocointalk.org/viewforum.php?f=6
Let's compile a URO FAQ has became sticky at http://urocointalk.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4
July 13, 2014, 03:28:13 AM
I hope you know overtime all alt coins will go down in value, it will get to the point were all the money and interest in them fades away and the miners just keep dumping to pay for the hydro bill, not with this coin since it has something backing it up and a very limited amount of coins to be minted unlike others
July 13, 2014, 03:27:14 AM
My post seems to have gone missing for some reason. Let's do it once more...
Not to troll or FUD, but why does a multi-million dollar corporate alliance need donors to come up with (relatively) puny 10BTC to expand their userfrendliness. I'm not a whale and I could only commit 2BTC to a proof of urea purchase and delivery. After all, when (if?) that irrefutable proof comes in I'll make much more on URO. Yet, even to me, 10BTC is not that much...
Not to troll or FUD, but why does a multi-million dollar corporate alliance need donors to come up with (relatively) puny 10BTC to expand their userfrendliness. I'm not a whale and I could only commit 2BTC to a proof of urea purchase and delivery. After all, when (if?) that irrefutable proof comes in I'll make much more on URO. Yet, even to me, 10BTC is not that much...
My train of logic is that even though the 4 companies are backing and supporting URO. They cannot be seen as directly funding it. It is in everyone's interest that URO remains an independent community that is not directly funded by any third party but by the community and it's supporters. This would be very important to get other suppliers to sign on in the future.
Thank you for your correct answer cryptshine. The Uro Foundation is independent from the 4 companies that have ratified the Uro Protocol so far and will continue to remain independent in order to attract more and more commodities firms in the coming months and years. The Uro Foundation has never received any funding from any of the 4 merchants that have so far agreed to accept Uro for Urea purchases under the agreed pegged ratio and under the current structure will never seek funding from other parties for the purpose of running the Foundation itself. We believe this is an important element of neutrality that will benefit Uro greatly in the longer term.
July 13, 2014, 03:02:51 AM
now some of you are going to be like, so what does 1 btc = ?
well the people make the worth of it which makes sense for btc since it is the first and well does everything a real money needs to do, instead of trading to fiat, I have not sold 1 coin for usd or cad, I instead have bought stuff with it, my computer, my laptop, my vaporizer pen, some coffee even and a few other things shirts etc etc.
but why? do these other coins have any value is beyond me, I don`t think I will ever understand... like I understand the people make the value of those coins to.... but why?
^ lol I bet this is how Bohan looked when he was realizing the same thing as me and working on a new coin that made sense
well the people make the worth of it which makes sense for btc since it is the first and well does everything a real money needs to do, instead of trading to fiat, I have not sold 1 coin for usd or cad, I instead have bought stuff with it, my computer, my laptop, my vaporizer pen, some coffee even and a few other things shirts etc etc.
but why? do these other coins have any value is beyond me, I don`t think I will ever understand... like I understand the people make the value of those coins to.... but why?
^ lol I bet this is how Bohan looked when he was realizing the same thing as me and working on a new coin that made sense
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