Topic: Moldova - page 2. (Read 4626 times)

West behaves pretty dictatorial towards rest of the world..they are jsut working on having good image by demonizing those who stands in their way. Think for youself people. Crimea is rich compared to rest of bancrupt Ukraina, crimeas industries and economy is depentand on Russias. Ukraina is going down, they will be never able to repay their debts. Crimean people will have higher standard of living,then ever,  there was no violence, remember that.

Poland make the good choice ...
You think really living with Food Tickets is nice ?
Go back 20 years  ... you are living nice in your seat to drop such non sense... ?
The main rules by the communist gouvernement was => Spy everyone , if you see something come to speak to me ... LoL
You are Sick man ... out of control and you are really out of reality !
Better then you go watching X-Files !


You like Russia ... ok go there and live there ...

What .. Russia is the 1st country for Drug use ... 1st country where alchool was forbiden because so much drunk people all over there ...

And the only One country where alchool "Vodka" is a country embleme ... LoL

I think you drank too much vodka !

Yes, let common law in America put ALL of the governments in the whole world, including the U.S. government, into their rightful places.

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."

Anything and everything to do with Russia, even if it has a look of beauty, is really the Russian government trying to take control of the whole world. It has always been this way since the Bolshevik revolution. And unless Russia is forced into common law, it will always be the same.

And a small aside about propaganda: anyone would be naïve to think that news outlets don't push some propaganda, be it Russian or American. The question is about proportions. During the Soviet era, the proportion of propaganda in Soviet media was close to 90%, while the Western media were more moderate: 50-60% judging from the old publications that I read. The picture has largely reversed now.

Why Moldova wants join the EU, Romania and Bulgaria are there, and are however poorest countries in EU.
EU is like Titanic.

Correct.. Just be true to your words.

This got steam-rolled over on the previous page:

Some more in-depth background on Moldova, Pridnestrovie Moldovan Repoblic and situation there:

Moldova Explosion Coming 2: Coalition “Moldova’s Choice-Customs Union”
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/moldova-explosion-coming-2-coalition-moldovas-choice-customs-union/


And the reason why I reference Russian outlets is because I don't read Romanian. And if I don't come with the Russian-speaking (not the same as Russian ethnic) side of the story, who will? Do you want it to be one-sided after all? To rephrase a famous British writer, "I speak for them that have no voices" (at least when it comes to picture-painting in the Western MSM). I'd be happy for niothor to come with the Romanian-side of the story.


Yes, I am accepting Russia's voice, and am proud of it. As of late, it's been a tiny voice of reason in a roar of lies. And I am accepting that voice critically, after having weighed the alternatives on the scales of consciousness and integrity.

Guys you need to learn how to be patient. Civilized person is actually definition of people who can tolerate mistakes and explain which is wrong and why, without falling into senseless accusations.

Typical attribute-projection reply by somebody, who lacks a basic knowledge of how to participate in the discussion.

Tipical reply from a authoritariann govt supporter who lack arguments to respond to a critic.

Nobody here ask for one-sided propaganga (Moldovan, Romanian or Russian notwithstanding). Sadly the news outlet you put here are only russian so you're acting only as a Russian-side voice. Is public domain that a lot of problems in the Region (Ukraine, Moldova, Crimea, etc.) came from Russian-speaking people there receiving their news only/mostly from Russian Federation news outlets.

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So the Western media pushes lies for half a year about Ukraine and it's fine. I make one mistake and it's propaganda? Sigh. I am not forcing you to read my finds. Some of the links I posted come from people intimately familiar with Moldova. I am not, and I said as much in one of my discussions with niothor. But from what I learn the strategy used to put a wedge into the country is disturbingly similar to the ones used in the Baltics, Ukraine, Egypt, Lybia, Syria...

By the way, will I stop being a "propaganda" if I start posting exclusively Romanian-sided views on Moldova and say that the Russian-speaking part of Moldovians (a couple of million people) can be disregarded and discarded? Will I suddenly become a good source of information then?

I want to be a good source of information so here goes: All Russians and Russian-speaking nationalities in Moldova must be deported, aAll Moldovans (at least the one worth keeping alive) want to join Romania. Romania was so good to Moldova  during WWII and provided all Moldovan Jews with food and free lodgings. Europe want Moldova to become a member state - that's what the Association is all about. Once Moldova is a part of EU all Moldovans will freely travel to Germany where they are eagerly awaited and get work for good wages. EU and IMF will give Moldova billions of € for reconstruction, completely free of any interest. The coming NATO bases will make Moldova super secure, it will not in any way affect the country if missile strikes are conducted from them against Russia.

Have I been a good student in not being "propaganda"?

Maybe it's not disqualifing you but surely disqualify as "propaganda" the reporting of Russian media who to support Kremlin-side put togheter false facts as well as one-side voices and do partial reporting. Maybe You cannot recognize this because you're acritically accepting Russia's voice.

No, I wouldn't. Also, I am reporting what I saw in media. If my perception of it was incorrect, you are, of course, free to rectify it - that's the nature of democracy as understood in Russia. This one detail, however, does not negate all the other points made.

PS: an interesting read on history Modavia and Romania in WWII and the Moldavan losses by the hands of Romanians:
http://www.newsmoldova.ru/commentary/20120507/191391727.html

 
I didn't have the time to look into the merits of your other points but this one wholly disqualify your position as false/ignorant as well as lacking any basic understanding of Moldovan history. The blue, red, and yellow tricolor of Moldova is almost identical to the flag of Romania, reflecting the two countries' national and cultural affinity. So their PM was wearing a ribbon with their own's national colour not a foreign one! Probably you preferred to see him with Russian ribbon?
 

Partidul Nostru is currently polling at around 12%. The pro-EU forces have already started their campaign against the party. For example, the Wikipedia page has been deleted and some of the users who created it were banned.

I thought that Voronin's party (PCRM) was pro-Russian and anti-EU? As far as I know, he hasn't favored Moldova entering the European Union, and have always maintained a friendly relationship with Russia. On the other hand, the ruling triumvirate (PLDM-PDM-PL) is rabidly anti-Russian and is in favor of joining the European Union.

Victory for Voronin's party? He's pro-Romanian, correction, he is Romanian bearing a Russian surname, and Moldovans outside of the ruling elite stamped him as the one selling out Moldova.