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legendary
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Congrats to Dogedigital and now the investors have very good chances to get their money back.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30290778

CryptoBust username: dogedigital
Contest #: 4
Game ID(s): https://btc.cryptobust.io/game/1013406

and very interesting it was accepted even the rule says participants with red trust are not eligible to participate!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30294348

CryptoBust username: dogedigital
Contest #: 4
Game ID(s): https://btc.cryptobust.io/game/1013406
Despite your red trust, Admin decided to accept your entry anyway.

Congratulations Smiley

newbie
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I'm really trying to stay away from you here JP and the new team has no quarrels with you.  If you sit back and relax, you will start to see things will start playing out how you have been requesting them to.   The merger is a good thing for you and everyone involved

I will not delete your posting because we live in a free BTC world and not in your MP Dictatorship. my postings are all legit and I am glad some ex MP fans are coming out to ask questions. also RHavar had a legit question and it was answered like always namely not

how long should one sit back and relax? if you would have shown real serious intentions ok lets sit back but you did only bring up new empty promises.

your bank roll is a JOKE and also that you want to prove that you have 1 BTC it really shows that I was right that  you guys are insolvent and as I wrote long before you will sell MP with a bit of luck.

until your promises are not full filled I am saying out loud

Monster Byte merger with Moneypot is a MONSTER SCAM

now  lets see if you can delete my posting you clown

why do you say scam?
where i can check about that ??
legendary
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will try Smiley

thx for helping out

Much better!

I am always trying to learn from people who are trying to help. TS did it in a very polite way and I appreciate that

could some one teach me coding our casino to get it life? Smiley

BTW dooglus would you recommend to us to add clam when we get life?
legendary
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legendary
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@JPRacer, I appreciate the things you're posting, but the way you are posting quotes from other threads is kind of a pain to read (in my opinion).

I could be wrong, but I think most would appreciate if you just post the direct quotes by clicking "quote" and not reformatting anything (it will also be much easier for you too)

For example (this took me about 10 seconds):



1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)


This press release begs to differ:

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/monster-byte-moneypot-historic-crypto-gaming-merger/

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!



will try Smiley

thx for helping out
legendary
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@JPRacer, I appreciate the things you're posting, but the way you are posting quotes from other threads is kind of a pain to read (in my opinion).

I could be wrong, but I think most would appreciate if you just post the direct quotes by clicking "quote" and not reformatting anything (it will also be much easier for you too)

For example (this took me about 10 seconds):



1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)


This press release begs to differ:

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/monster-byte-moneypot-historic-crypto-gaming-merger/

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!


legendary
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new interesting info from Monsterbyte posted in another thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30576791

1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)


and

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30580706

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!

legendary
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Please stop.  You are trying to twist things and give them different meanings.  I and Moneypot can't and won't be commenting on these things.  Stop speculating please. 

I'm not completely caught up on what's going here, but are you refusing to clarify your statement and asking people not to speculate? 

The only other choice is to just try not to think about it, which obviously isn't going to happen.

Not asking people to not think about it.  Just not to speculate and post what they think happened.  It needs to be handled by the appropriate channels, and until that has happened, we cannot comment on the situation.

.

so let me ask again

is @Maidenvoyage the only one who is not allowed to withdraw?
legendary
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I was trying to let people know that they can withdraw their funds instead of thinking they aren't able to and not try or give up because of misinformation.   

I truly can not win posting.  Good bye again.

JPR is asking a legit question , can Maidenvoyage withdraw or not ??
he is the biggest investor AFAIK , it doesn't make sense to pay other people and leave the ones who trusted you the most with a lot of money

that is exactly the problem that Dogedigital is not answering legit questions and is thinking he will get away with it

legendary
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guess who's back


I was trying to let people know that they can withdraw their funds instead of thinking they aren't able to and not try or give up because of misinformation.   

I truly can not win posting.  Good bye again.

JPR is asking a legit question , can Maidenvoyage withdraw or not ??
he is the biggest investor AFAIK , it doesn't make sense to pay other people and leave the ones who trusted you the most with a lot of money
legendary
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How's the Moneypot turnover after they run on 2.0?

Discussion is too long, did they proved solvency?

nope they didn't and they are still in debt for some people , there are missed money and it's not being announced
basically nothing changed with 2.0 except that they have more currencies , and they have red tag now  Roll Eyes

Thank you, as expected...
I was luckily enough to withdrew my investment from MP more than a year ago. Yolodice and other alternatives look like much better investment now.

I think this is a time for an exception to post here so people know that they CAN retrieve their balances:

All players and investors with available balances are able and encouraged to withdraw from withdraw.moneypot.com or transfer to the new Moneypot.  All funds transferred to the new Moneypot will be reflected in a proof of liabilities at the end of the month.

another proof that you will never keep your promises

be assured that we will not delete your postings.

how about @Maidenvoyage? can he also withdraw?
legendary
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guess who's back
How's the Moneypot turnover after they run on 2.0?

Discussion is too long, did they proved solvency?

nope they didn't and they are still in debt for some people , there are missed money and it's not being announced
basically nothing changed with 2.0 except that they have more currencies , and they have red tag now  Roll Eyes

Thank you, as expected...
I was luckily enough to withdrew my investment from MP more than a year ago. Yolodice and other alternatives look like much better investment now.

I think this is a time for an exception to post here so people know that they CAN retrieve their balances:

All players and investors with available balances are able and encouraged to withdraw from withdraw.moneypot.com or transfer to the new Moneypot.  All funds transferred to the new Moneypot will be reflected in a proof of liabilities at the end of the month.

well that's a good progress so far , will keep an eye to see people's reviews
personally I never invested in moneypot , but I care about how the site will do since I used to spend my days in bitexo and now the app is suffering due to moneypot problems/

hope all the apps will be as they used to in the past
sr. member
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How's the Moneypot turnover after they run on 2.0?

Discussion is too long, did they proved solvency?

nope they didn't and they are still in debt for some people , there are missed money and it's not being announced
basically nothing changed with 2.0 except that they have more currencies , and they have red tag now  Roll Eyes

Thank you, as expected...
I was luckily enough to withdrew my investment from MP more than a year ago. Yolodice and other alternatives look like much better investment now.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
How's the Moneypot turnover after they run on 2.0?

Discussion is too long, did they proved solvency?

nope they didn't and they are still in debt for some people , there are missed money and it's not being announced
basically nothing changed with 2.0 except that they have more currencies , and they have red tag now  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 434
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How's the Moneypot turnover after they run on 2.0?

Discussion is too long, did they proved solvency?
legendary
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The ONLY one you can trust is dooglus and JUST-DICE.

Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated.

fully agree that one can trust dooglus but I would add RHavar to the trust list.

who else should be on this list?

Dooglus and RHaver have surely set the bar when it comes to crypto-gambling type business ethics.

It's not a coincidence that they are also two of the most rational and intelligent people I have ever had any contact with.

Edit: To avoid confusion I should clarify that neither Dooglus or RHaver are currently involved in Moneypot.  This post is pretty off topic actually.
legendary
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They aren't off the hook, legally at least. You can't transfer all the assets of a company and just let the empty shell retain the liabilities...that's straight up fraud.
That is a fact!
You can also not “merge” through Equity swaps or whatever if you have such an big dept unpaid and do not invite these investors to the table because you are no longer the owners of the equity.

I am sure you are getting bombarded with PMs from Dogedigital. fight for your rights and coins!
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They aren't off the hook, legally at least. You can't transfer all the assets of a company and just let the empty shell retain the liabilities...that's straight up fraud.
That is a fact!
You can also not “merge” through Equity swaps or whatever if you have such an big dept unpaid and do not invite these investors to the table because you are no longer the owners of the equity.
legendary
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So, if MP Legacy only sold its assets MonsterByte, what happened to the payments MonsterByte made to MP? If the company has any liabilities, any proceeds from the sale of assets should go towards those liabilities rather than to the owners - that's just corporate law works, even in Costa Rica I'm pretty sure. In this case, especially, because the debt had been called prior to the asset sale, meaning MP has an obligation to direct any proceeds from the sale to the owner of their liabilities. Anything else is pretty much just embezzlement...

The merger deal is for equity swapped.  Moneypot legacy is using the income gained from the equity to pay for things such as debt tokens, support for R2B2 in the future, and increased development of Moneypot.  No direct payments were made to the owners.

To add to this, Keeth is correct - there hasn't been any transfer of money to MoneyPot, and it's important to note that we haven't closed the deal yet. The potential deal we have in place is development and marketing support to help MoneyPot realize their vision, as well as restricted equity in Monster Byte assuming certain conditions were made throughout 2018.

Contingent upon our deal was that the old MoneyPot team would make realistic arrangements to settle all their previous liabilities from future revenue of the MoneyPot platform, and solve the Rubies token situation. The proposal that Keeth put out there seemed realistic and in the best interests of anyone that had a vested interest in MoneyPot fixing this situation and moving on under the Monster Byte umbrella. The alternative is that they would fold operations and everyone is left with nothing.

However, there was a legal claim presented in the Canada courts that we need to see through before we move any further. It's unfortunate as I believe we were making some good progress on foundational items, but we (Monster Byte) will need to see how that case ends up before we officially close the deal with MoneyPot.

This thread isn't helping matters, and anything can (and most certainly will) be used in the court system - so this is the last I'm writing publicly on this matter until it's resolved.



 

Sounds like casinobitcoin did a deal with moneypot, with good intentions.  But why would a company like moneypot, who is clearly in need of money since they are selling there site, even bother to repay debts owed?  They are off the hook now.

The part that confuses me is:
Contingent upon our deal was that the old MoneyPot team would make realistic arrangements to settle all their previous liabilities from future revenue of the MoneyPot platform

That is very vague, and I imagined the conversation with casinobitcoin and moneypot went as follows:

casinobitcoin:  hi we want to purchase your site
moneypot:  ok, you see that we're in debt and owe well over 100 Bitcoin.  You sure you want to buy our company even with our shady past and bad reputation?
casinobitcoin: Sure do, just as long as you make realistic arrangements to pay your debt before you skip down.  Oh, and you must solve the Rubies situation.  Whatever that means.  You promise to do that?
moneypot:  no problem, we will definitely pay everyone back.  You have nothing to worry about!  Forget our bad past, you've got yourself a deal!  Thanks suckers!

I bet the poor man owed 100 Bitcoin along with everyone else will never see a penny of it.  It just doesn't seem like moneypot has the funds. 
And casinobitcoin isnt going to pick up the tab.  So who will?

   

They aren't off the hook, legally at least. You can't transfer all the assets of a company and just let the empty shell retain the liabilities...that's straight up fraud.

I have to agree with that. lets see if Dogedigital has an answer as he is running this show now
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So, if MP Legacy only sold its assets MonsterByte, what happened to the payments MonsterByte made to MP? If the company has any liabilities, any proceeds from the sale of assets should go towards those liabilities rather than to the owners - that's just corporate law works, even in Costa Rica I'm pretty sure. In this case, especially, because the debt had been called prior to the asset sale, meaning MP has an obligation to direct any proceeds from the sale to the owner of their liabilities. Anything else is pretty much just embezzlement...

The merger deal is for equity swapped.  Moneypot legacy is using the income gained from the equity to pay for things such as debt tokens, support for R2B2 in the future, and increased development of Moneypot.  No direct payments were made to the owners.

To add to this, Keeth is correct - there hasn't been any transfer of money to MoneyPot, and it's important to note that we haven't closed the deal yet. The potential deal we have in place is development and marketing support to help MoneyPot realize their vision, as well as restricted equity in Monster Byte assuming certain conditions were made throughout 2018.

Contingent upon our deal was that the old MoneyPot team would make realistic arrangements to settle all their previous liabilities from future revenue of the MoneyPot platform, and solve the Rubies token situation. The proposal that Keeth put out there seemed realistic and in the best interests of anyone that had a vested interest in MoneyPot fixing this situation and moving on under the Monster Byte umbrella. The alternative is that they would fold operations and everyone is left with nothing.

However, there was a legal claim presented in the Canada courts that we need to see through before we move any further. It's unfortunate as I believe we were making some good progress on foundational items, but we (Monster Byte) will need to see how that case ends up before we officially close the deal with MoneyPot.

This thread isn't helping matters, and anything can (and most certainly will) be used in the court system - so this is the last I'm writing publicly on this matter until it's resolved.



 

Sounds like casinobitcoin did a deal with moneypot, with good intentions.  But why would a company like moneypot, who is clearly in need of money since they are selling there site, even bother to repay debts owed?  They are off the hook now.

The part that confuses me is:
Contingent upon our deal was that the old MoneyPot team would make realistic arrangements to settle all their previous liabilities from future revenue of the MoneyPot platform

That is very vague, and I imagined the conversation with casinobitcoin and moneypot went as follows:

casinobitcoin:  hi we want to purchase your site
moneypot:  ok, you see that we're in debt and owe well over 100 Bitcoin.  You sure you want to buy our company even with our shady past and bad reputation?
casinobitcoin: Sure do, just as long as you make realistic arrangements to pay your debt before you skip down.  Oh, and you must solve the Rubies situation.  Whatever that means.  You promise to do that?
moneypot:  no problem, we will definitely pay everyone back.  You have nothing to worry about!  Forget our bad past, you've got yourself a deal!  Thanks suckers!

I bet the poor man owed 100 Bitcoin along with everyone else will never see a penny of it.  It just doesn't seem like moneypot has the funds. 
And casinobitcoin isnt going to pick up the tab.  So who will?

   

They aren't off the hook, legally at least. You can't transfer all the assets of a company and just let the empty shell retain the liabilities...that's straight up fraud.
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