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Topic: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com - page 20. (Read 119068 times)

legendary
Activity: 854
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November 17, 2016, 11:34:17 AM
I agree completely with Ryan. Especially since most of these sites you listed have faucets in them, most users just play faucet money portions long enough on lowest odds and claim again hoping to win huge :/
sr. member
Activity: 501
Merit: 340
Bye Felisha!
November 17, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
Max win bug has been fixed. If the bet exceeds the set threshold it will return an error: 'POSSIBLE_WIN_TOO_HIGH'.

Please update your apps to accommodate.
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 500
https://bit-exo.com/?ref=gamblingbad
November 17, 2016, 09:40:32 AM
Just a general remark, but I think "bets per day" is kind of a useless metric. Easily >99.9% of all bets are just dust and worse than just being dust, they're all automatically placed so don't even correlation with user interactions (that applies to all sites, including my own).

Perhaps a slightly more interesting metric would be "real bets per day", where a "real" bet is defined by someone betting more than $1 USD (equiv) for a payout greater than 1x.


Easier just messure by wager per day, week, month or wager x (house egde % / 100)
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
November 01, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

Very interesting.  I wonder what causes this? Just eyeballing it, it seems most of his client seeds are oddly low, definitely doesn't look evenly distributed. However, this wouldn't allow him to cheat unless MP was trying to cheat him, and he was exploiting that? (I saw that very thing happen on a shitty site a couple months back, you can find it in my post history).

My guess however is just that what ever app he was playing on was not properly coded, and inconsequential to his wins or loses. (But should be fixed ASAP, as it would make the site not provably fair). Generating client seeds is very easy: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb

what you are saying is that the client seeds were not properly coded and could not be used to cheat?
you are also saying it is not provably fair as it is now. I always understood that if a site is not provably fair someone can cheat the site or the player (not sure now)

thx

I believe he is saying that since the random client seeds were only 6 digits in length, it would restrict the user's ability to fluctuate the outcome.  This means that Moneypot could maliciously act to make the player lose at a higher rate if (s)he did not manually set a client seed and Moneypot knew which range the player was going to select.

The particular player that people are talking about has not lost (Moneypot did not (and never has) 'stack' the odds against the player).

This is also why it is recommended to occasionally alter your client seed in a random fashion to take full advantage of the provably fair system.
legendary
Activity: 2018
Merit: 1108
November 17, 2016, 06:28:48 AM
Just a general remark, but I think "bets per day" is kind of a useless metric. Easily >99.9% of all bets are just dust and worse than just being dust, they're all automatically placed so don't even correlation with user interactions (that applies to all sites, including my own).

Perhaps a slightly more interesting metric would be "real bets per day", where a "real" bet is defined by someone betting more than $1 USD (equiv) for a payout greater than 1x.

This would pretty much clear out the misleading information and leave us with the most informative statistics. Good idea.

Provably.io is officially live! Check out our thread and our contest thread for a chance to win an Xbox One S!!!

Great news. Will be taking a look as soon as I get a chance. The first look gives a great impression!
sr. member
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Bye Felisha!
November 16, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
Provably.io is officially live! Check out our thread and our contest thread for a chance to win an Xbox One S!!!
legendary
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1886
November 15, 2016, 09:10:04 PM
Just a general remark, but I think "bets per day" is kind of a useless metric. Easily >99.9% of all bets are just dust and worse than just being dust, they're all automatically placed so don't even correlation with user interactions (that applies to all sites, including my own).

Perhaps a slightly more interesting metric would be "real bets per day", where a "real" bet is defined by someone betting more than $1 USD (equiv) for a payout greater than 1x.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
November 01, 2016, 07:24:05 PM
We understand that these type of losses make investors nervous (Moneypot too has a fair portion of the bankroll and absorbed building losses), so we are doing our due diligence and checking everything out that we can.

This however does not justify wild accusations against the player or against Moneypot themselves.  We are opening up as much information as possible and encourage users to investigate in case they find something (there is also a decently sized reward if an exploit is found).  







legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
November 15, 2016, 08:07:43 PM
We've gone ahead and credited the players that were affected out of pocket.

There were four 50,000 bits wagers that had won the main bet but carried along a sidejackpot that exceeded the 20BTC cap.  They were all fully refunded and allowed to keep the winnings (they all resulted in winning bets).

There were a few dust lottery that barely exceeded the 20 BTC cap.  These players were credited with an amount that covered well above the summation of their bets.

That's a good way of resolving things. Well done.

We've been doing at least 2,500,000 a day for a while.

BK does about 75k, BD does about 100k, (edit) CG about 1.8M, SatD about 300k, and SD 500,000.

I've put my signature now to 'As many bets as all other crowdfunded casinos combined' which I believe is a fair statement that can be backed by the data available

Just-Dice.com is a crowdfunded casino. It had 20 million bets in the last 7 days. That's about 2.85 million bets per day.

In the 710 days that the site has been up it has had 2.024 billion bets. That's also 2.85 million bets per day.

Now Just-Dice uses CLAMs, not BTC. But can it really be true that Just-Dice has more bets than any other crowdfunded casino? That seems unlikely to me, given the relative lack of interest in CLAM.

Either way, your "As many bets as all other crowdfunded casinos combined" is clearly wrong. You don't even have as many bets as Just-Dice, let alone more than all the others combined.

Stats are publicly available for every crowd funded site, MoneyPot handles the most bets per day out of all of them (Bitcoin denominated).
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3282
November 15, 2016, 07:28:34 PM
How can you compare moneypot to other site?
By taking a look at the statistics and comparing them with other sites? How else?

Moneypot has many apps on that so to have many bets per roll is possible thing.
That is the main feature of moneypot - allowing anyone to create their own app with different games.

But if you compare to each apps to other site I dont think moneypot can win either, only fewa apps that really can close enough to other sites.
BetterBets has the largest wagered amount for an app on Moneypot, and they can probably compete. Anyway, they are just different games. Would you use the stats of Plinko, Dice, Roulette and BitSpin for comparing BitVest.io or just one?

What is really matter is how much can each sites get from their btc wagered not from the total bets they play
More bets usually equals more BTC wagered.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1008
November 15, 2016, 07:15:18 PM
How can you compare moneypot to other site? Moneypot has many apps on that so to have many bets per roll is possible thing. But if you compare to each apps to other site I dont think moneypot can win either, only fewa apps that really can close enough to other sites. What is really matter is how much can each sites get from their btc wagered not from the total bets they play
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
November 15, 2016, 06:50:46 PM
We've gone ahead and credited the players that were affected out of pocket.

There were four 50,000 bits wagers that had won the main bet but carried along a sidejackpot that exceeded the 20BTC cap.  They were all fully refunded and allowed to keep the winnings (they all resulted in winning bets).

There were a few dust lottery that barely exceeded the 20 BTC cap.  These players were credited with an amount that covered well above the summation of their bets.

That's a good way of resolving things. Well done.

We've been doing at least 2,500,000 a day for a while.

BK does about 75k, BD does about 100k, (edit) CG about 1.8M, SatD about 300k, and SD 500,000.

I've put my signature now to 'As many bets as all other crowdfunded casinos combined' which I believe is a fair statement that can be backed by the data available

Just-Dice.com is a crowdfunded casino. It had 20 million bets in the last 7 days. That's about 2.85 million bets per day.

In the 710 days that the site has been up it has had 2.024 billion bets. That's also 2.85 million bets per day.

Now Just-Dice uses CLAMs, not BTC. But can it really be true that Just-Dice has more bets than any other crowdfunded casino? That seems unlikely to me, given the relative lack of interest in CLAM.

Either way, your "As many bets as all other crowdfunded casinos combined" is clearly wrong. You don't even have as many bets as Just-Dice, let alone more than all the others combined.
legendary
Activity: 2018
Merit: 1108
November 15, 2016, 10:17:41 AM
Nov 14:

BK: 136,160
BD: 106,867
SATD: 70,945
CG: 1,844,313
SD: 308,872
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2,467,157

Moneypot: 2,729,811
And bitvest? The numbers are close and I doubt mp is in the lead every day.
where to see public moneypot daily stats?

Stats can be found at eeeth.com/mpstats.

I couldn't find too many statistics on bitvest.  I believe they did 400,000 yesterday which is a large amount above what they used to be producing probably because of the new dice they implemented.

There are days where other sites will have spikes in volume.

Moneypot won't have more every single day, but it does consistently produce just as many or more than the rest combined.

I've put my signature now to 'As many bets as all other crowdfunded casinos combined' which I believe is a fair statement that can be backed by the data available (at least way more accurate than unsubstantiated advertised #1 site).


Any comparison about how much wagered daily? I think that would be the more interesting number out of the two. Doubt moneypot does too bad at that either. That depends a lot on the day though. Seems like on BetKing etc. a single whale could produce most of the wagered so it's sometimes very occasional.
legendary
Activity: 2018
Merit: 1108
November 15, 2016, 09:58:45 AM
Nov 14:

BK: 136,160
BD: 106,867
SATD: 70,945
CG: 1,844,313
SD: 308,872
--------------
2,467,157

Moneypot: 2,729,811
And bitvest? The numbers are close and I doubt mp is in the lead every day.
where to see public moneypot daily stats?

I also doubt this is the case on most days. I'd also like to see some stats. Would give something to compare to and base my opinion. I have no doubt about the numbers though. Interesting comparison.
legendary
Activity: 2895
Merit: 1135
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple Games, Multiple Coins
November 15, 2016, 09:48:46 AM
Nov 14:

BK: 136,160
BD: 106,867
SATD: 70,945
CG: 1,844,313
SD: 308,872
--------------
2,467,157

Moneypot: 2,729,811
And bitvest? The numbers are close and I doubt mp is in the lead every day.
where to see public moneypot daily stats?
legendary
Activity: 2895
Merit: 1135
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple Games, Multiple Coins
November 15, 2016, 08:58:24 AM
How many bets per day are placed on moneypot?I'm curious because of signature More Bitcoin BETS a day than all other crowdfunded casinos combined!

We've been doing at least 2,500,000 a day for a while.

BK does about 75k, BD does about 100k, CG about 600k, SatD about 300k, and SD 500,000.
We're having about 2,000,000 BTC bets per day for quite some time now (that's only on dice game)



so total from all other crowdfunded sites is around 3 mio.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
November 15, 2016, 07:49:33 AM
How many bets per day are placed on moneypot?I'm curious because of signature More Bitcoin BETS a day than all other crowdfunded casinos combined!

We've been doing at least 2,500,000 a day for a while.

BK does about 75k, BD does about 100k, CG about 600k, SatD about 300k, and SD 500,000.

Yup. There are so many bets coming from Betterbets so there's huge amount of betting traffic everyday for Moneypot..
which is why moneypot should also take care of its app owners haha.
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
November 15, 2016, 06:16:37 AM
How many bets per day are placed on moneypot?I'm curious because of signature More Bitcoin BETS a day than all other crowdfunded casinos combined!
full member
Activity: 143
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November 14, 2016, 11:02:23 AM
We've gone ahead and credited the players that were affected out of pocket.

There were four 50,000 bits wagers that had won the main bet but carried along a sidejackpot that exceeded the 20BTC cap.  They were all fully refunded and allowed to keep the winnings (they all resulted in winning bets).

There were a few dust lottery that barely exceeded the 20 BTC cap.  These players were credited with an amount that covered well above the summation of their bets.
I can confirm that I was refunded my bits!
Thanks alot for the refund :3
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
November 14, 2016, 10:56:14 AM
We've gone ahead and credited the players that were affected out of pocket.

There were four 50,000 bits wagers that had won the main bet but carried along a sidejackpot that exceeded the 20BTC cap.  They were all fully refunded and allowed to keep the winnings (they all resulted in winning bets).

There were a few dust lottery that barely exceeded the 20 BTC cap.  These players were credited with an amount that covered well above the summation of their bets.
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