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JackpotRacer

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Quote from: RHavar on November 01, 2016, 06:58:12 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

Very interesting. I wonder what causes this? Just eyeballing it, it seems most of his client seeds are oddly low, definitely doesn't look evenly distributed. However, this wouldn't allow him to cheat unless MP was trying to cheat him, and he was exploiting that? (I saw that very thing happen on a shitty site a couple months back, you can find it in my post history).

My guess however is just that what ever app he was playing on was not properly coded, and inconsequential to his wins or loses. (But should be fixed ASAP, as it would make the site not provably fair). Generating client seeds is very easy: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb

what you are saying is that the client seeds were not properly coded and could not be used to cheat?
you are also saying it is not provably fair as it is now. I always understood that if a site is not provably fair someone can cheat the site or the player (not sure now)

thx

CrazyCraig

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Bye Felisha!

Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 01, 2016, 08:12:44 PM

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 08:07:37 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 01, 2016, 08:04:33 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 07:58:32 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

All the client seeds are dynamic and random which have been produced by the app itself (bubblebit). They were designed by the app to be 6 digits long. I have suggested earlier in the day to make the length at least 8 digits but still with the ability to be custom set.

The seeds don't really affect the user's ability to cheat, but rather limits themselves to being cheated easier (if for some reason Moneypot was acting malicious against them [we are not]).

confused

how long should those seeds at least be? 6 7 8 9 ? and what is max number for seeds?

thx

It is my opinion that the random seeds should vary in length with each generation throuought the whole seed range.

what is the whole random seeds range in numbers?

thx

I'll get it for you shortly, I'm mobile

JackpotRacer

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Activity: 1974

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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 08:07:37 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 01, 2016, 08:04:33 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 07:58:32 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

All the client seeds are dynamic and random which have been produced by the app itself (bubblebit). They were designed by the app to be 6 digits long. I have suggested earlier in the day to make the length at least 8 digits but still with the ability to be custom set.

The seeds don't really affect the user's ability to cheat, but rather limits themselves to being cheated easier (if for some reason Moneypot was acting malicious against them [we are not]).

confused

how long should those seeds at least be? 6 7 8 9 ? and what is max number for seeds?

thx

It is my opinion that the random seeds should vary in length with each generation throuought the whole seed range.

what is the whole random seeds range in numbers?

thx

CrazyCraig

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Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 01, 2016, 08:04:33 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 07:58:32 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

All the client seeds are dynamic and random which have been produced by the app itself (bubblebit). They were designed by the app to be 6 digits long. I have suggested earlier in the day to make the length at least 8 digits but still with the ability to be custom set.

The seeds don't really affect the user's ability to cheat, but rather limits themselves to being cheated easier (if for some reason Moneypot was acting malicious against them [we are not]).

confused

how long should those seeds at least be? 6 7 8 9 ? and what is max number for seeds?

thx

It is my opinion that the random seeds should vary in length with each generation throuought the whole seed range.

JackpotRacer

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Activity: 1974

Merit: 1014

All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 07:58:32 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

All the client seeds are dynamic and random which have been produced by the app itself (bubblebit). They were designed by the app to be 6 digits long. I have suggested earlier in the day to make the length at least 8 digits but still with the ability to be custom set.

The seeds don't really affect the user's ability to cheat, but rather limits themselves to being cheated easier (if for some reason Moneypot was acting malicious against them [we are not]).

confused

how long should those seeds at least be? 6 7 8 9 ? and what is max number for seeds?

thx

Dogedigital

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Activity: 1330

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Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

All the client seeds are dynamic and random which have been produced by the app itself (bubblebit). They were designed by the app to be 6 digits long. I have suggested earlier in the day to make the length at least 8 digits but still with the ability to be custom set.

The seeds don't really affect the user's ability to cheat, but rather limits themselves to being cheated easier (if for some reason Moneypot was acting malicious against them [we are not]).

AltcoinRambo

full member

Activity: 148

Merit: 100

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 07:22:26 PM

I'm not even going to subject myself to these aquisations. I have never once cheated in anyway. I have dedicated just about every ounce of my spare time to the project and have provided the ownership with detailed information about my identity.

It is unfortunate that this forum has become such a dungheap over time ... no matter what you do, there's always some idiot looking for an angle to call you a scammer.

RHavar

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 01, 2016, 07:35:55 PM

could you please explain in what range it was randomized from the app itself? I am not an expert yet regarding this seed thingy and wasnt BB seeds also lower than it should be?

It's worth noting, the seed is designed to stop the *server* (MP) cheating. A client can never cheat by improperly picking a client seed [1], it just opens the possibility that the server could cheat. However in this case, a player won a lot of money -- so it's not really a consideration. (However, the app should be fixed ASAP, as it's not provably fair)

[1] Assuming the server is generating a proper random number Tongue

JackpotRacer

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Activity: 1974

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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 07:02:39 PM

Quote from: RHavar on November 01, 2016, 06:58:12 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

Very interesting. I wonder what causes this? Just eyeballing it, it seems most of his client seeds are oddly low, definitely doesn't look evenly distributed. However, this wouldn't allow him to cheat unless MP was trying to cheat him, and he was exploiting that? (I saw that very thing happen on a shitty site a couple months back, you can find it in my post history).

My guess however is just that what ever app he was playing on was not properly coded, and inconsequential to his wins or loses. (But should be fixed ASAP, as it would make the site not provably fair). Generating client seeds is very easy: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb

We have already looked into this. It appears that the seeds are randomized in that range by the app itself.

could you please explain in what range it was randomized from the app itself? I am not an expert yet regarding this seed thingy and wasnt BB seeds also lower than it should be?

thx

CrazyCraig

sr. member

Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

I'm not even going to subject myself to these aquisations. I have never once cheated in anyway. I have dedicated just about every ounce of my spare time to the project and have provided the ownership with detailed information about my identity.

CrazyCraig

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Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 07:14:07 PM

Lol Lead dev they have his own App and Play there with the Same Strategie like Notardy? DONT LET THEM WITHDRAW!!! I m to tired atm to Check all. But this smells more and more fishy to me sorry to say!

So playing 1.5x makes me NotTardy?

B_UN1T

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Lol Lead dev they have his own App and Play there with the Same Strategie like Notardy? DONT LET THEM WITHDRAW!!! I m to tired atm to Check all. But this smells more and more fishy to me sorry to say!

Edit: i only do this guys becouse i want mp keeps alive!

CrazyCraig

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Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:59:40 PM

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 06:45:01 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:19:31 PM

As a "veteran" Player from the new moneypot for me it becomes harder and harder to think all Is correct what Is going on!

I mean a new player come to Moneypot go to the App with biggest possible payout Start playing and hit the mega Jackpot. Maybe this was really luck! There Are guys out they try it since month. But ok this of course can happens. But hit another smaller Jackpot on the Same app Start to race my attation! As i say there Are guys out that want to hit 1 jp since month and have no luck.

And than this Bubbles Story!
This really remember me about huffelpuff
https://youtu.be/uALj-u-BvOc
The first time i Watch this i have say all correct only a Lot luck! But we all Know it better now...

Maybe a few will come out and say provably fair, maybe its a inside Job who knows!

I would hold the Coins as Long as possible and Check all as much as i can!! You already let Notardy wd a Lot Coins. If he Play legit he can wait!

I only say this becouse i like the Concept behind moneypot and like to Play there, Switch from App to App and Dont Need to wait till my Coins are Ready. But it looks like for me the end Is near!!!!!
If Investors Profit will go under 100btc You will see what i mean!
I want that mp will not die!!!! Love the Place the players there the games!

I can ensure you we are doing the best we can to investigate all endpoints. We will keep everyone updated with the situation and any resolution that may come. For those curious, we have been in contact with NotTardy and he has been fully cooperative.

Who you are and what do you have to do with the Investigation as a App owner??

I am the lead developer at MoneyPot.

CrazyCraig

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Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

Quote from: RHavar on November 01, 2016, 06:58:12 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

Very interesting. I wonder what causes this? Just eyeballing it, it seems most of his client seeds are oddly low, definitely doesn't look evenly distributed. However, this wouldn't allow him to cheat unless MP was trying to cheat him, and he was exploiting that? (I saw that very thing happen on a shitty site a couple months back, you can find it in my post history).

My guess however is just that what ever app he was playing on was not properly coded, and inconsequential to his wins or loses. (But should be fixed ASAP, as it would make the site not provably fair). Generating client seeds is very easy: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb

We have already looked into this. It appears that the seeds are randomized in that range by the app itself.

B_UN1T

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Activity: 336

Merit: 254

Quote from: CrazyCraig on November 01, 2016, 06:45:01 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:19:31 PM

As a "veteran" Player from the new moneypot for me it becomes harder and harder to think all Is correct what Is going on!

I mean a new player come to Moneypot go to the App with biggest possible payout Start playing and hit the mega Jackpot. Maybe this was really luck! There Are guys out they try it since month. But ok this of course can happens. But hit another smaller Jackpot on the Same app Start to race my attation! As i say there Are guys out that want to hit 1 jp since month and have no luck.

And than this Bubbles Story!
This really remember me about huffelpuff
https://youtu.be/uALj-u-BvOc
The first time i Watch this i have say all correct only a Lot luck! But we all Know it better now...

Maybe a few will come out and say provably fair, maybe its a inside Job who knows!

I would hold the Coins as Long as possible and Check all as much as i can!! You already let Notardy wd a Lot Coins. If he Play legit he can wait!

I only say this becouse i like the Concept behind moneypot and like to Play there, Switch from App to App and Dont Need to wait till my Coins are Ready. But it looks like for me the end Is near!!!!!
If Investors Profit will go under 100btc You will see what i mean!
I want that mp will not die!!!! Love the Place the players there the games!

I can ensure you we are doing the best we can to investigate all endpoints. We will keep everyone updated with the situation and any resolution that may come. For those curious, we have been in contact with NotTardy and he has been fully cooperative.

Who you are and what do you have to do with the Investigation as a App owner??

RHavar

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Activity: 1463

Merit: 1886

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:51:32 PM

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

Very interesting. I wonder what causes this? Just eyeballing it, it seems most of his client seeds are oddly low, definitely doesn't look evenly distributed. However, this wouldn't allow him to cheat unless MP was trying to cheat him, and he was exploiting that? (I saw that very thing happen on a shitty site a couple months back, you can find it in my post history).

My guess however is just that what ever app he was playing on was not properly coded, and inconsequential to his wins or loses. (But should be fixed ASAP, as it would make the site not provably fair). Generating client seeds is very easy: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb

B_UN1T

sr. member

Activity: 336

Merit: 254

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 01, 2016, 01:50:38 PM

We are simply trying to cover everything.

We have been constantly reviewing the bet logs and are doing our best to check all that we can for the sake of our investors.

We are not above asking for help if in the event we missed something.

Public log: http://pastebin.com/4cQik4uZ (too big to post in forum)

Wtf am i the only guy who ask the question? Why every bet only have a seed that is <1000000???

You remember the shit that was going on with bb And the seed Story!

Hold the Coins!!!!

yahoo62278

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Activity: 3682

Merit: 4469

As you can see here NotTardy is playing Slide_Dice and its a x1.5 payout range. This has been the way he has played the whole time. Obviously these are smaller bets. I just got these from our site as he came back in for a minute to chat with me and i was away.

All he is doing when he bets its raising and lowering his bet. I dont see him injecting anything or trying any funny shit because hes betting like crazy. Hes not making 1 bet, then 2 minutes later another. Hes going full out. Hes been 20btc down at times and just raises his bet and finally comes back to positive.

Could something funny be happening? Im not sure, but from my point of view it all looks legit.

Again ill say that i dont see anyone crying when a player is losing. As we all know the house always wins. Long as he keeps coming back i would think he has a losing day coming. If players were never allowed to win, then what would be the point of gambling? Seems like investors really need to know what investing is about and know the fact that players arent just gonna lose every single day.

CrazyCraig

sr. member

Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

Quote from: B_UN1T on November 01, 2016, 06:19:31 PM

As a "veteran" Player from the new moneypot for me it becomes harder and harder to think all Is correct what Is going on!

I mean a new player come to Moneypot go to the App with biggest possible payout Start playing and hit the mega Jackpot. Maybe this was really luck! There Are guys out they try it since month. But ok this of course can happens. But hit another smaller Jackpot on the Same app Start to race my attation! As i say there Are guys out that want to hit 1 jp since month and have no luck.

And than this Bubbles Story!
This really remember me about huffelpuff
https://youtu.be/uALj-u-BvOc
The first time i Watch this i have say all correct only a Lot luck! But we all Know it better now...

Maybe a few will come out and say provably fair, maybe its a inside Job who knows!

I would hold the Coins as Long as possible and Check all as much as i can!! You already let Notardy wd a Lot Coins. If he Play legit he can wait!

I only say this becouse i like the Concept behind moneypot and like to Play there, Switch from App to App and Dont Need to wait till my Coins are Ready. But it looks like for me the end Is near!!!!!
If Investors Profit will go under 100btc You will see what i mean!
I want that mp will not die!!!! Love the Place the players there the games!

I can ensure you we are doing the best we can to investigate all endpoints. We will keep everyone updated with the situation and any resolution that may come. For those curious, we have been in contact with NotTardy and he has been fully cooperative.

B_UN1T

sr. member

Activity: 336

Merit: 254

As a "veteran" Player from the new moneypot for me it becomes harder and harder to think all Is correct what Is going on!

I mean a new player come to Moneypot go to the App with biggest possible payout Start playing and hit the mega Jackpot. Maybe this was really luck! There Are guys out they try it since month. But ok this of course can happens. But hit another smaller Jackpot on the Same app Start to race my attation! As i say there Are guys out that want to hit 1 jp since month and have no luck.

And than this Bubbles Story!
This really remember me about huffelpuff
https://youtu.be/uALj-u-BvOc
The first time i Watch this i have say all correct only a Lot luck! But we all Know it better now...

Maybe a few will come out and say provably fair, maybe its a inside Job who knows!

I would hold the Coins as Long as possible and Check all as much as i can!! You already let Notardy wd a Lot Coins. If he Play legit he can wait!

I only say this becouse i like the Concept behind moneypot and like to Play there, Switch from App to App and Dont Need to wait till my Coins are Ready. But it looks like for me the end Is near!!!!!
If Investors Profit will go under 100btc You will see what i mean!
I want that mp will not die!!!! Love the Place the players there the games!

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