Topic: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com - page 34. (Read 119079 times)

Great question!

It depends on what API implementation the app owner has decided to implement. Implicit vs Confidential. You can learn more about the two here, but in a nut shell, implicit is when a browser interacts directly with an mp and confidential, when a serverside resource communicates directly with an MP app.

When the button is pressed the bet is passed through one of the described channels to MP's server and back to the client / service.

Regarding cookies, it depends on the app owners implementation. They could be using them for session storage, authentication etc. MP doesn't explicitly handle cookies. All cookies are managed by the app owner.

@CrazyCraig

Please be so kind and explain to me what exactly happens when I hit the bet button. Especially what role the cookie plays in this process and how it is related to my bet outcome.

Thank you in advance !

Correct, I am MP's dev. You will have to investigate your own issue.

we are a MP app and you are MP head dev

did we cheat our customers we this cookie issue? was eric cheated by us and we prevented him to win on our app?

Like I said, I didn't make that acquisition. You will have to hire a developer to investigate your codebase and figure it out with Eric.

what cookie issue? did we cheat with the cookie issue and prevented users to win?

Reread that slack conversation. I specifically said that your developer needs to put a check on the submit button and disable it. I posted that private slack conversation as you have yet to acknowledge that I offered assistance to you.

As you were quick to point out, yes I am quite new to MP, but thats going on just about 6 months now. I was not affiliated / involved with the previous development plans and have been implementing my own rendition of the API. I have been forthcoming with the plans and a procurement timeline.

You should hire a developer to investigate the cookie issue. I cannot speak for the rest of the MP team, but I personally will  not be offering my assistance to you anymore as it does no good.

Again, I still do not understand why you chose to attack me / mp when we came to defend you.

Fibonacci is just as flawed as other progression systems. Given unlimited funds, sure you can beat the house, but you don't have that, and there is a maximum bet / profit anyways...

as you are quite new to MP Slack please let me tell you that it is very disappointing to see that the head dev of MP is posting screenshots of the Slack room conversation and not of the general room but from the Private = Direct Messages. I am not sure if MP would be happy if every member of MP slack Channel will post screenshots of conversations between MP owners and dev and app owners in whatever forum

I remember when there was a leakage of infos about discussions out of the general Slack room. MP owners immediately opened another room and invited trusted app owners in there. and it is still there with much less users than in general channel.

but to be frank and everyone in Slack know that I dont like private conversations on skype or by PM especially if it is stuff that everyone should be interested in. I like open conversations like now here in forum. so I have no problem at all that you are posting screenshots of Slack DMs or even from general channel or any channel there. but the rule tells not to do this!!!!!!!!!!

and what does your ss prove? lets see how your help looked like for me

you are saying: "most likely what is happening is your users are placing bets before they get a response from the first bet"
maybe and it could be possible but my answer and my experience is that it also happens when I open the lottery and did not even one bet that means there was no first bet yet

and spamming bets? maybe and it could be possible but again it happens when user tries to do his first bet

and this was your great help?  I will not step down to your level and post our full Slack DM conversations. I respect the MP Slack channel rules but you and everyone are free to do so

" API V2 is right around the corner"
to tell you the truth v2 is already more than 6 month around the corner

and you will need a developer to migrate your application, so it may be a good idea to start looking for one.
yes we need a coder and it is not easy to find a good and trusted one and to be frank we don trust in first place so it is even more difficult.

and we need to hurry because of v2 is around the corner? No cause there is a lot of time imo and in case we dont find a coder till then guess what we do? will we commit suicide? no
we have to eat and MP is not feeding us. trust me on that

we have a few options - for example we can close it > we can auction/sell it > we can give it away for free (because it is ours)

I still dont understand what we did to let our users lose? was it the cookie bot from Scott Hamper which produced the hash error and prevented users to win? serious questions cause I dont understand it

But im getting off just very much wanted my relevancy of my thought process to be known and not criticized any more! thank you to you guys for your time and have a wonderful rest of your day!

i very much tried and this was his solution....

Eric, we take all our customers seriously. I never negated you, just stood up for the hash issue. If there is an issue with JPR's cookies you need to address the issue directly with him.

cool glad u guys take customers seriously...https://github.com/ScottHamper/Cookies/issues/63

The real bummer is that there's multiple scenarios that could prevent a cookie from being set properly, and it's not always (if ever) possible to determine what the exact cause is, given the loosey-goosey limits. Cookies could be disabled in the browser, an individual cookie could be too large, there could be too many cookies for a single domain, or there could be too many cookies in total.

It occurs to me that it's also theoretically possible that the Cookies.js enabled property ends up being false due to one of these limits having been hit, but while browser cookies are still enabled. Perhaps the end result is equivalent to if cookies were truly disabled, but it seems semantically incorrect.

In any case, it could be good to check if a cookie actually got set, and if not, throw an error. However, I don't think we can easily include why the cookie failed to be set in the error message (beyond giving possible suggestions/ideas as to what the cause might have been). http://imgur.com/5Jwic03

Im not going to comment on the Eric situation. Again, I came to your defense and said that you were doing anything preventing users from hitting a jackpot. In fact, as I previously said, I found in your scripts that you take 20% from the jackpot winner which gives you 0 incentive to prohibit someone from hitting the jackpot, especially since you aren't even liable for it. MoneyPot is.

Regarding help, myself and dexon are always here. We may not be as hands on as RHavar was, but we are here for your assistance. Right now we are 100% focused on future endeavors, something that everyone has put a lot of presser on MP for.

Yourself and I have frequent conversations and I most always tell you how to address any issue you may have. You are not a developer and you may not understand my recommendations, so you need to hire someone who does. API V2 is right around the corner and you will need a developer to migrate your application, so it may be a good idea to start looking for one.

Here is a screenshot of our conversation on slack. I told you how to fix it.

i dont know about silly buddy beings it is all plausible which was just confirmed soo..instead of being rude you can acknowlede that there was probable cause to my thought process thanks

so its not so crazy of me to think that when i was watching the feed while inspecting his page that the hits on lotto would go dead till cookies renewed its expiration date, then repeat the process to the point where i assume that the code he had installed cause it weather intentional or not.
then to have someone wireless access my computer make themselves admin delete certain files. where would your heads go in this situation?

I apologize for misreading your answer

when I said competitor I meant competitor but not in a negative way because at our app all MP apps were always allowed and invited to promote their app and promotions and one app/owner was heavily using it = Yahoo/Bubbles and he should or could confirm this and if not our users will

just for your info Moneypot is not feeding us!

I never asked MP to build our applications but I asked for help regarding the hash error cause users were very much annoyed and we were losing users. MP has an app helper but he is not helping us. but when RHavar was owner all apps got help from Ryan and from many other app owners and from dexon. why is this not possible today and in the past it was possible? I tell you why because RHavar understood very well that an app that is running without hick ups will bring money/profit and the more apps the better

and you offered a few days ago to check the hash issue at our site to give me advice how to fix. did you do this? No

how can you take this eric serious? you as head dev of MP?

eric needs a good doctor and change his medication with such silly accusations



why was Jroc able and willing to help us even I did not ask him for help?  you know why? because he had the will and understood our situation. thx again Jroc

His application manages state by cookie tokens. So yes, it could affect the application.

my purpose for the simple questions of could this affect a current hash error embedded in his site & could cookies effect it when expiring werent answered? the whole purpose is to see if a bot could have been running and once cookies expired....could that bot keep running and developed a hash error.. i dont understand why u guys are struggling to understand