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Hi guys Im korean

In my opinion, the logo doesn't matter.
I think we need a white paper and a detailed road map.
And I think we need a web site in their language.

New logo is good old logo is good 

But I think that two Web sites and three logo are confusing to many people.

Many people talk about it...
What is the real? Mooncoin.eco? Mooncoin.com? Bluemoon? M logo?


I think we need integration.

Good morning from Greece ! I agree with you 100 %. I have said the same things in the past. So, we can make Mooncoin a briliant cryptocurrency, with 2 things only: a)Completion of development works (algo, new wallet, fix of Moonrush) and b) Promotion, promotion, promotion...!

looks great i like the blue color skin

Do you have any specific Asian markets in mind? How may we contact them? Let us be diligent in our efforts to propel Moon.

If we hit Asian exchange 20sats per MOON is nothing.
Look for example at Earthcoin. 99% of their $2mil per 24h volume comes from China.
That is why I was looking for native chinese/japanese/korean speaking users.
I believe there are such here reading but they are just watching us fighting ...

So I am officially burring the tomahawk of war. And lighting up the pipe of peace.

Please do not change the current blue moon logo for now. It is appealing enough to penetrate the Asian markets.

This is good to hear. We should contact Future Scouts to make things official, interesting that they have not done so yet? Regarding the casino, glad to hear you are back at it once again. I look forward to its release and seeing how it runs. Sometimes you cannot control other people's actions. You must do what it takes on your end and hope others follow suit. Mooncoin has promise, I have little doubt.

Yep that is correct, we wanted to wait with posting it on Mooncoin.eco and Moonchan until future scouts themselves have released the news.

There was and is indeed a casino in development. By me and Icedbluw. It was 2/3 done, when the logo issue came up. So much time and energy was spent on this issue, that I got a bit bummed out by Mooncoin. I halted the work and spend time on other projects and also had a vacation in the mean time. I have recently started developing again and will finish it. I hope to release it soon, it all depends a bit on how much people are willing to contribute to helping Mooncoin progress.

Ok, so I see that we must get in contact with Asian markets ASAP. Could lead to decent price increase. These projects related to Moon you say are in development - how far along are they? We could use some good new projects that could help advance Mooncoin. Other than that, it seems we must wait for James to become active again and begin updating. I still have faith in the community, albeit for now. We must stand as one, preach progress, not division. Put aside trivial issues of the past, onwards.

The logo often makes first impression. As we know the moon is big thing in Asia. The chinnese calendar is based on the moon phases. And this M logo simply does not comply.

The big exchanges are all aware of Mooncoin. They will add it without we asking once the volume on the current exchanges grow. This will happen when the demand rise. It will rise if not based as currently only on trade speculations but when there are real cases when Mooncoin can be used.

@Jasperrr, the slow transactions have nothing to do with the mining algo but as I initially stated - the retargeting algo.
Do not feel obliged to always contrary replay me.

Mooncoin_Foundation said it more than clear above: "However, if people just discuss the future of MOON and say about the importance of decentralisation, it's not pure fighting,
it's an important topic and the future of Mooncoin (and its price) will depend on how well the community understands the idea. "

We do not need any corporate entity behind and any VC money. There are other types of projects which go this way.
You can consider those as private cryptocurrencies, not much different from the fiat.
Mooncoin simply is not one of them.
Same as crypto world don't have only POW consensus algo but also POS, dPOW etc.

You do not need to form vertical (pyramidal) structures in order to help Mooncoin further grow and development.
We don't need titles, we need good consensus and flat, decentralized structure.

I can see Mooncoin was made currency of Future Scouts. This needs more exposure, I can not see this anywhere other than this forum. Exposure is crucial to success, something Mooncoin is not doing well. I can also see from previous posts that a casino utilizing Mooncoin was in development, where is that? We must get on top of all aspects - exposure, development, projects. Let us cease the drama completely. Everybody will always disagree with something. We ALL want Mooncoin to propel into higher satoshi range. I will send a PM to James today. We are all ready to succeed, it's been enough waiting.

Yes, we definitely could use some more exchanges. We've already tried Bittrex but are yet to be accepted. I personally do think it's wise to first release more features/products before trying to move to big exchanges. Otherwise, we could get a temporary spike just to fall back down.

And we could definitely use some assistance for James. One C++ developer has already volunteered to help out assisting on the core and even more would only be better. So if anyone else that is knowledgeable in blockchain programming; wants to join, you are more than welcome.

It does, the current algorithm is simply not equipped for the huge coin supply; even with adjusted retargetting.

No, there was a previous vote between all possible logos and it won there. Then a revote got held and as far as I know, the current one was the only logo entered and thus won by default. I don't know where the mcdonalds logo came from, as far as I remember someone posted that to mock Larrimar's design skills.

The new logo is embraced by the main developer and added it in the new wallet which is soon to be released:

I concur with the Dogecoin approach. But also believe it is imperative to get onto other exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Asia). Regarding algo, James hopefully is correct in saying that he has a 0.13 trial version almost ready. This is crucial to Mooncoin progress. I also have wondered if we should hire some additional developers to assist James? I do not want James to be overloaded and feel the need to take a step back. But if he is committed to progressing in a reasonable timeframe, I support him. We should make active steps to infiltrate the Asian market. Logo does not bother me, use whatever logo you see fit. At the end of the day, a user buying Mooncoin, is buying Mooncoin, regardless of logo.

If to impose centralised decisions to a decentralised project,
it simply doesn't work. Let's say old members want to impose their own decision,
you see, people can create a new forum, a new website etc.
However, people can create also a new Discord channel etc.
And now imagine that this is happening to the network itself.
Then it will be 2 coins. Is it good? No.

The only way to go and be successful is to find a consensus,
without it there will be only conficts and nothing good for the coin.
Yes, to find a consensus is more difficult than just to try to impose a decision. It's a challenge.
A good consensus leads to the price rising and to good things happening to Mooncoin.

Wise people understand it and don't fight with each other.
However, if people just discuss the future of MOON and say about the importance of decentralisation, it's not pure fighting,
it's an important topic and the future of Mooncoin (and its price) will depend on how well the community understands the idea.

Edit: Also if you want to see the price rising, there is one thing which maybe you will laugh at, anyway,
sometimes a coin implements good tech, is actively being promoted, listed at big exchanges, but has a low market cap which doesn't rise. And you don't understand why, it simply doesn't rise and that's all. In my opinion, each coin has its own soul and something like karma derived from its community, how people act, talk, think, it's not only a technology itself or promoting which makes a coin rise. I don't say that a technology is not important, we all know it's in progress, just not all people have enough tech skills to contribute to a technology itself, meanwhile the whole community forms coin's soul.

Not to split the community,
only things which have a good consensus should be accepted. It's quite simple and it works.
People always agreed with good things that were proposed in 2014-2017.
No one minded MoonWord, no one minded low inflation with gradual reduce,
no one minded freezing not legitimate Cryptsy addresses,
no one minded updating the Mooncoin wallet
to the latest Litecoin codebase.
Also no one minded a blue moon logo when it was proposed, it had a good consensus at that time,
was supported by the marketing expert Evangelo  (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18226878)
and by several designers, that's why I've added it to the OP.
Later the consensus about the blue moon logo changed, but the changed consensus was not good and full enough to update an OP.

A lot of people minded a new logo proposal, so it had no good consensus and implementing of it
led to splitting the community and this split led to the price going from 4-5 Sat to 1-2 Sat.
The approach should be simple: just don't implement things which have no good consensus,
it will affect the coin anyway.

And what happened? After the fighting about a logo, newcomers thought that old members just wanted to control the coin,
which is absolutely not true. As I've said, I can stop posting in this thread and can even give credentials of my account to a new team, if I see that they act wisely, fair, and don't destroy the project (even if they have good intentions).
It takes a lot of time for me to answer posts and especially a lot of PMs I'm receiving, so I'd be only glad to deliver this duty to someone else (but then I should be sure that it will not affect MOON).

Jasperrr Jasperrr, this is the retargeting algo I am talking about and also have nothing to do with the coin supply.

It is not the current logo and it was competing with the macdonalds logo which makes the entire contest farce.
You can see the current logo in the OP post.

A different algo implementation is crucial for the survival of mooncoin. The current coin supply is so large, that large transactions (just millions) currently already take 8+ hours. And now we don't even have that many transactions. This will cripple our network in the future.


The blue ellipse is the old logo. The current logo is:

Thank you for asking. As I stated before instead of new exchanges I think we should take the Dogecoin approach - real generosity and real economy behind in terms of more and more services which accept Mooncoin.

As of the technical aspect I believe we do not need to implement masternodes and cpu mining algo. We need new retargeting algorithm though.

I really like the idea of MoonWord.

Mooncoin need to be embraced by the Asian markets/users. That is why we want to keep the current blue moon logo. We need to be united and with no vertical hierarchy in order to do so.

Unicode ticker:
☽   &# 9789   &# 263D       FIRST QUARTER MOON

Thank you,

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Thanks! I'm gonna include both of them, as skins. But if there are general things about the structure that you think can be improved, feel free to say so!