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The approach was quite simple, this is a decentralized system that we all choose to support. It's important that if there are issues on certain matters, we utilize democracy. What I will not do is represent a dictatorship, it's different if a couple of people talked about the logo and didn't like it only stating opinions. But as Mooncoin ad campaigns continued and the community grew, it got to the point where something had to be done. So in the decentralized system the best way to settle the matter was competition where democracy could take place. I don't throw around the "title" of marketing director as if I'm above anyone, we are all equal including myself and I do my best to demonstrate that. I was totally fine with Nico's logo, however, Nico's logo was bested, because of the most recent events, we as a community should "ALL" continue using the discord channel as a voting platform. Perhaps we should change the logo based on a consensus the next go around. No one is totally wrong for what has transpired, we all must remember that we are still growing as a community, just as is the whole cryptoworld. Next time something of this nature comes to pass, I encourage everyone to utilize their democratic privileges. Not every coin community es decentralized, this is what makes Moon special, we must continue to strive for improvement and growth. #PeaceandProgress

*Nobody* has made any money off MoonEdu... because it's still just a concept that hasn't been implemented yet.

You are allll over the map, aren't you?

At least have the common decency to talk normal to me. I do not belittle you so no need to belittle me either.

I specifically said that a logo does not have to represent a company name OR a product. Meaning, that for Nike they could have just used sneakers as their design. For Mcdonalds, they can use their iconic french fries packaging or a hamburger. Etc.

Good for you that you make money in a Moon named business. If changing your logo to an actual moon made all the difference, your previous marketing tactics must have been way off. Regarding MoonCoin, we do not need to have an actual Moon. I do not have the need to be right, it is not my design nor is it my contest.

What puts me off is the fact that a small group decides to ignore the voice and vote of the majority. And decides to revolt. Also, it is the fact that you and Nico shout a lot of stuff without supporting it with real facts. And the fact that you both do not have the decency to have respect for people that disagree with you. At least be nice enough to not treat each other like shit, ok?

A constructive reply to my post would be great Vegasmoon.

Please tell me what's wrong about it? How come it works for said companies and many other companies? I hear not a single argument why I am wrong and you are right.

I actually earned my cash through marketing the past 10 years. I only hear you screaming at people to reject something just because you do not like it. Using slick flashy sales techniques like saying: "Do you want to be a winner or a loser? Then DO THIS". Please give me some actual thought out arguments.

So much hate. You don't decide what to discuss, anyone may discuss anything.

If you read back, I placed a well-reasoned post in which I explain why you don't need to have an actual moon in the logo. You say we must have one so people know 'oh that's mooncoin'. But that's not how it works. When you see a yellow M, you say 'Hey that's Mcdonalds!' when you see a checkmark-like symbol, you think 'Hey that's Nike!'. When you see a random f in a blue box you're like 'Hey that's Facebook'.

Logo's do not have to contain actual representations of the company name/product. It's more important that a logo is simple yet has subtle touches making it easy to recognize. The current blue crescent does not have these subtle touches. It just looks like a random emoji, or like a children's drawing set:


Thus needing to have a Moon to succeed? Not correct.

The idea behind the M, was that it is a currency symbol, which MOON is. People in foreign cultures may not use the word "moon" for the moon, but identify it with a character such as in China and Japan (large investors in cryptocurrencies right now)

http://imgur.com/a/0yM9G

Alongside many other variation and words. So yes, the M can be vague in the beginning. What about all the other cryptocurrencies and company logos that are vague until you learn more? It also encourages people to become curious on what this particular symbol means, and actively promotes interest.

Now if we dismiss this and go for the moon option then I agree with some old comments.

First, regarding the initial logo, the moon is not really identified with a golden colour. That logo, while quite eye catching promotes gold, associated with avarice or greed. Bad. Also the words (to the moon) around the side are a bit out of date and not really what moon is just about anymore.

Next, is Niko's logo. Simplistic can work sometimes, but it really doesn't stand out as a strong logo. It's serene, peaceful. It implies this thought process to me personally, "Let's just sit here, wait for great things to happen for us, as this is the moon!"

Here is a good explanation of what the moon means and is associated with in another culture for instance:

http://www.cycleharmony.com/stories/everyday-goddesses/hina-the-hawaiian-moon-goddess

The moon also controls our tide, it is a powerful presence. It has many effects on out ecosystem, and without it there would be an array of extreme natural movements.

I see the moon as a symbol of strength, courage, and solidarity. Think a wolf pack howling at the moon.
There is DESIRE for the moon, to one day reach out and touch it. It provides a light in the dark for those to see and move.

Nico's logo expresses none of this to me. And although Larrimar's logo is not really a symbol of the moon, it stands out as strong, competitive and sophisticated.

People that think this period of discussion is 'toxic' need to go and read the old ANN, at least the first 300 pages 

mooncoin had so much drama at the beginning, right through until September, as Deaconboogie had gone AWOL

Now, the people who held this coin together over that period were primarily coinflow, agswinner, Redjedievolution.

agswinner did a lot to get us on bleutrade, where I think most of the volume has gone.

coinflow acted as a great community manager over the period where there was none. Years even.

Redjedievolution invested a heap into bringing the coin back to life from 2 litoshi, though maybe at his own financial interest, it still benefited the coin as a whole and kept it alive.

There of course were many others who contributed time and effort over the last few years I haven't mentioned, but maybe if these other veteran people were allowed to weigh in on the direction of mooncoin, there would be a lot more fairness. Not just the two who currently oppose change.

Even agswinner commented before

and


So although he is fond of the old logo more, at least agswinner is open to discussion and not openly dismissive.

It is a wonderful thing to see warring parties kiss and make up.

For my two cents on mooncoin's nomenclature:  if there's to be any changes to its name or logo it should always include some form of the Moon.  Whether it be a full moon, half moon, crescent, waxing gibbous, etc, it would be silly not to include it. There are many reasons for this, I'll name one.... What if at some point we get to expand into the Chinese markets?  They consider it a symbol of harmony, luck and so on.  To have the Moon as the coin's core symbol would be a great advantage in that environment.

Don't get me wrong, I think the new "M" symbol looks great (albeit a bit generic), I just don't see its relevance to this coin.  And so, its a decent compromise when Mooncoin_Foundation suggested it could be used for Moonlite.

I have to ask, how is it that you think that this kind of toxic oligarchic attitude won't turn off every small investor. Join our community, so you can be talked down to by people who hold more of the currency than you will ever be able to afford. Decentralized currency, controlled by those holding the most. Oh hypocracy, thy name is Nico. Everyone would be gone due to your selfish attitude, and yet you would remain cursing the darkness for not being helpful enough.

Now the voting does not take into account the participant's weight, a person with 100 MOON has the same value as a person with 1 million MOON.

This is illogical and wrong. Moreover, even a person who does not have a MOON can vote, which is absurd.

I think that voting should be conducted taking into account the weight of the participant. The person who invested more money in MOON has more weight. He risks big money.

It is very easy to implement, just make an MOON-address, write some minimal random amount (1-1000 MOON) and then send it to this MOON-address. This will be the verification of the voting participant.

Without this, any vote is invalid, because The voter can be without a MOON at all.

I don't understand the whole point on logo changing. When it went from the Yellow Moon to the Half blue moon I said ok that looks nice. But now you guys are changing it again? Seriously? I feel like who ever is in charge of the logos is acting like a 10 year old brat. 1 Logo change is enough.... Don't turn this into a bad habit and DO NOT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN!


Anyways. I really hope Moon hits 25 sats soon.

Dead scamcoin.

I wish I had sold all my MOON when I still had the chance. 

when is coin going moon? #ThingsThatMatter

The toxicity stems almost entirely from one person who didn't like the fact that his logo wasn't chosen. That is all.

The concensus was that literally nobody here or on the Discord complained or voiced contrary opinions about a new logo contest being made until *after* it was over. It was posted twice here in the ANN by me and mentioned by a few other users as well during the week.

The concept and description has already been done; Larrimar's logo won. Those who wanted to be involved were, those who didn't lose their ability to complain or reject it. I truly do not see the issue here.

I do agree that we could propose multiple logos for the different offerings MOON will have, as you say. Then another contest will be made to vote in those new logos.

In March there was a good consensus,
I just don't see the consensus now, I see toxic talks in the thread which never happened before,

also several old members, including agswinner, polemarhos, arcmetal etc. told that they didn't want a new logo for MOON,
but they agreed to have it for ML,

to change a logo of decentralized coin, there should be a good consensus, and again: not to change it too often.

Is there any concept/description for a new logo proposal?

March 17th.

What month is it now? Are you aware that opinions are subject to change over a period of time, especially with a whole contest of options to choose from, which was the entire point of the Contest?

I posted the Blue Moon logo in the OP because the community approved the logo (including the Marketing Director),
the original logo (which is not bad either and recognizable) also is present in the OP,


but if he changed his opinion, I'd only like to address to him a simple idea: changing logos too often is not good,
let professional designers make the consensus first, let the idea of new logo mature, and then let's discuss it and change if community agrees.
But now there are too many different opinions, and besides people will laugh at us, if we change logos every month.

But there is *currently* only one marketing director. And he felt there was interest enough in the active community to change logos. So he did his job and started a Contest.

Please understand that your decision to not have a voice in any of this until after it was all said and done was yours to make. You had the option, like everyone else in this community, to be involved. You chose to not be involved and so you've given up your rights to complain about the results.

Good afternoon again. I see the disagreement for the Mooncoin logo. With all estimate for the people which try to do Mooncoin one of the best cryptocurencies out there, I sugest α compromise solution: It looks like a good idea the use of new logo for the Moonlite project. And something else for  all : Just check the big flactuations and the disturbances at Bitcoin market when there was the conflict between 2 teams of developers (it haven't finished yet). Mooncoin needs the unity of all of us !