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I didn't vote because I didn't think and don't think at all that the logo should be changed, and especially that it should be changed too often,
and I've tried to clarify the idea in posts above.

If another group comes, it will have just as many chances as you to join MOON and to participate in its development, because MOON is not a company,
it's a decentralized system, and there can be several Marketing Directors and several boards in the future (again 'Marketing Director' is more for companies, maybe it was a mistake to use this definition).
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The contest was started not by 'my' marketing director, but by the Mooncoin marketing director, so you'd better ask him.
I don't say that your group is unofficial, for decentralized systems it's hard to say what is official what is not, who will judge? Not me definitely.
The Github source only can be official, and it's under control of barrysty1e, who codes wallets for MOON,
at mooncoin.com there are even no clients other than links to his Github releases.

We agree on him being 'our' marketing director then. :-)

However, once again, you avoided my question;

Did you vote? Were you fully aware of the Contest but only took it seriously once it was too late?
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The contest was started not by 'my' marketing director, but by the Mooncoin marketing director, so you'd better ask him.
I don't say that your group is unofficial, for decentralized systems it's hard to say what is official what is not, who will judge? Not me definitely.
The Github source only can be official, and it's under control of barrysty1e, who codes wallets for MOON,
at mooncoin.com there are even no clients other than links to his Github releases.
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I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

Edit: https://alexa.com/siteinfo/mooncoin.com indicates that the largest number of people came to the Mooncoin website from coinmarketcap.com,
where people saw the logo only and a short description.
Agswinner mentioned the large group of Italian long term investors which are gathering their positions step-by-step,
Evangelo is running and paying for a marketing campaign at Facebook.
I'm sure that efforts of Discord group are also very important.

We cannot change logos too often.

A new logo can be improved, really great things don't need discussing. Also it's better to provide its concept/description, not image only.
Several people in this thread already posted that they wanted to leave a current logo and see a new logo to be implemented for Moonlite, please take into account their opinion also.
Alexa can only make estimates, taking a look at the google analytics and selecting the date the logo was changed as a start date would provide accurate insights. But then again, it really doesn't matter how many people saw the logo.

Yes logo's cannot be changed too often so we need to settle this dispute now, before we grow even bigger as a community and coin.

I have indeed seen 3/4 members here wanting to use this logo for Moonlite instead. However, I've also seen (more) reactions here stating that they love the new logo. Like I said; we can have a second vote over here.

I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

So then you do trust Larrimar's design then?

Because he *is* a professional. In this exact field.

Or are you saying you will only trust in the design of something you personally prefer? Did you also miss out on the week of the Contest and now wish you said something before it was too late?

Nico is also a professional designer.
I've edited the post above to clarify what was meant.

We can change the logo, but then another group will come (MOON is decentralized), will make another voting on another board, and should we change it again?
Really better first to make sure it's really great so that people will not mind it in the future.

No, that is not possible. There is a board and a marketing director who vote on important issues. If you do not vote to change the logo again, other groups can keep saying what they want but there will not be a change.

In this case, the marketing director has sanctioned a contest to be held to design a new logo. It wouldn't be wise to undermine the director of marketing.

Also, I have increasing doubts over Nico being a professional designer. You can't deny the fact that he handled his 'loss' completely the wrong way. It was very unprofessional what he has shown during the past 24 hours..
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I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

So then you do trust Larrimar's design then?

Because he *is* a professional. In this exact field.

Or are you saying you will only trust in the design of something you personally prefer? Did you also miss out on the week of the Contest and now wish you said something before it was too late?

Nico is also a professional designer.
I've edited the post above to clarify what was meant.

We can change the logo, but then another group will come (MOON is decentralized), will make another voting on another board, and should we change it again?
Really better first to make sure it's really great so that people will not mind it in the future.


As was said before, this logo Contest was started by your own Marketing Director, not the 'unofficial' Discord group. So please stop avoiding the facts.

I'll ask again; will you deny it simply because you don't personally like it? I didn't see your name on nicos crescent vote; did you miss the vote?

Also, if you direct me to the 'official' Discord channel, I'd really like to meet these guys.
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I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

So then you do trust Larrimar's design then?

Because he *is* a professional. In this exact field.

Or are you saying you will only trust in the design of something you personally prefer? Did you also miss out on the week of the Contest and now wish you said something before it was too late?

Nico is also a professional designer.
I've edited the post above to clarify what was meant.

We can change the logo, but then another group will come (MOON is decentralized), will make another voting on another board, and should we change it again?
Really better first to make sure it's really great so that people will not mind it in the future.
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Activity: 189
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I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

So then you do trust Larrimar's design then?

Because he *is* a professional. In this exact field.

Or are you saying you will only trust in the design of something you personally prefer? Did you also miss out on the week of the Contest and now wish you said something before it was too late?
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I can only say that MOON is backed by common people all over the world, it's one of Mooncoin's most recognizable features.
However, sometimes better to listen to a talented professional in some field.
Also to think that you understand the market 100% (or even 90% of why it goes up, why it goes down) is a mistake.

Edit: https://alexa.com/siteinfo/mooncoin.com indicates that the largest number of people came to the Mooncoin website from coinmarketcap.com,
where people saw the logo only and a short description.
Agswinner mentioned the large group of Italian long term investors which are gathering their positions step-by-step,
Evangelo is running and paying for a marketing campaign at Facebook.
I'm sure that efforts of Discord group are also very important.

We cannot change logos too often.

A new logo can be improved, really great things don't need discussing. Also it's better to provide its concept/description, not image only.
Several people in this thread already posted that they wanted to stay with a current logo and see a new logo to be implemented for Moonlite, please take into account their opinion also.
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Well,
the rise of Mooncoin in May-June happened on which logo?
Blue Moon. Maybe not to change things that work, at least right now?

Another thing to keep in mind:
creating of professional logo requires special skills and experience.
Just like coding a wallet.
Democracy is good, but you will not let non-professionals code the wallet, right, even if everything is okay with collaboration?

Evangelo as a marketing director first had to make sure that all versions of logos were really made by PROFESSIONAL designers. Portfolio, experience etc.

It's a common mistake, sometimes top managers of companies make or judge logos by themselves,
but only a professional designer is able to judge these things.
For example, one very professional designer told me some years before that a circle line around a logo was one of common mistakes and usually indicated a non-professional logo,

we all (not designers) can just not see some things, which are evident for professionals and could make them laugh at our choice.
Like Ostsee said, it was the general hype that contributed. Along with tremendous marketing efforts from Zareeth and other community members. There's no way to measure the impact of a logo.

Yes, you do not let non-professionals code the wallet if they end up breaking it. If it works, it is good. I think it's a very bad stance to say "we do not want designs and input from the community unless they are coming from professionals". Hobbyists more than once create stuff that is better than a professional. Often, people just don't have the time, money or whatever to get a job in a specific field.

Of course, it might just as well be that sometimes a circle around a logo is a mistake. But definitely not always. In this case, I do not think it is a mistake at all. After all, we are talking about Mooncoin. The circle gives a good representation of an actual coin.

However, that doesn't matter as Larrimar is indeed a professional designer. Apparently, he has worked as a creative artist for a very long time and even designed the logo of the 2nd biggest airline in the Philipinnes: https://www.cebupacificair.com/.

If people doubt the results of the poll in the discord server, we can always do a revote on this bitcointalk thread.
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Agree, it was (and is) a general trend, but some coins didn't participate in it, or gained just a little.
You never know for sure what matters, even details can matter.
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 Grin Grin Grin

The rise of Mooncoin in May-June happened because of the general hype
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Well,
the rise of Mooncoin in May-June happened on which logo?
Blue Moon. Maybe not to change things that work, at least right now?

Another thing to keep in mind:
creating of professional logo requires special skills and experience.
Just like coding a wallet.
Democracy is good, but you will not let non-professionals code the wallet, right, even if everything is okay with collaboration?

Evangelo as a marketing director first had to make sure that all versions of logos were really made by PROFESSIONAL designers. Portfolio, experience etc.

It's a common mistake, sometimes top managers of companies make or judge logos by themselves,
but only a professional designer is able to judge these things.
For example, one very professional designer told me some years before that a circle line around a logo was one of common mistakes and usually indicated a non-professional logo,

we all (not designers) can just not see some things, which are evident for professionals and could make them laugh at our choice.
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Paint is g00d Shocked

http://imgur.com/a/D3ZcX

or why not put the crescent on the top of the M in the circle.




Looks a bit like the coin has a curl though haha
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Paint is g00d Shocked

http://imgur.com/a/D3ZcX

or why not put the crescent on the top of the M in the circle.

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Okay, guys! You have fun here, but the work does not wait.
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Now I wait for 2 Sat. :-)
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The old big moon is my friedlich. Sorry.
Form 2013 / 2014
Ha, I understand the nostalgia!

Anyways, everyone, let's keep the argument at bay. There's no use to having an endless discussion about past events. I have posted the old and new logo above and I shall post them again at the end of this post.

Feel free to chip in and give your personal opinion on the logo's and list your preference. But please keep it nice Smiley

Old


New
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The old big moon is my friend . Sorry.
from  2013 / 2014
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Can  i see both logos here?
Of course!

Nico's


Larrimar's


Used my logo without my participation
It was Evangelo who entered your logo for you.



Another logo has 5 variants of the outline, but I have 1 unsuccessful screenshot. Not good.
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