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legendary
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Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?
... that went to those addresses came from an exchange according to its history.

Addresses? It is only one address. Which history?

I don't think it was one person, who spent a ton of money on a pump. It was only a coincident, that MOON appeared in the top 30 on coinmarketcap after they repaired the false displaying of several coins in their list, because Mooncoin is traded on several smaller markets on Novaexchange, too. ASAFE/MOON for example showed a very high value which may have caused the average price of MOON be so high, that it appeared in the top 50. Then many people jumped on, because of FOMO - as usual. --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out
And Mooncoin rised to top 30 with prices on Bleutrade's DOGE/MOON market going higher than that of BTC/MOON markets. And with very high volumes on the BTC/MOON markets, too. Who would pump the coin by buying on that expensive market?

At least this showed very clearly what can happen when Mooncoin climbs up to these heights. And what volume can be generated then.

For everyone who wants to buy Mooncoin, see http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets first, in order to find the cheapest coin price. If you see MOON/DOGE being cheaper (at time of writing $0.000006 in DOGE as opposed to $0.000017 in BTC) don't buy MOON in BTC, buy it via DOGE (of course depending on the amount, since it may be that it becomes a higher price in DOGE if you go up, as we have seen). At the moment it would be good practice to scoop up MOON in smaller amounts on the DOGE or LTC-market ( https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_MOON/ ) until they reach the BTC-price. Just check http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets and compare before you buy in order to make sure you get the coins for the cheapest price.

I'm just going by what I see. MOON sky rockets up before falling back down. When it fell back down a new address appeared with 10 billion MOON in it that came from an exchange. That's a big coincidence.

It's no bigger coincidence than someone sending their coins to a wallet-address that could be on an exchange, in order to seize the opportunity and/or prepare for higher prices to dump the coins into the market afterwards.

Furthermore: when it fell back down the coins should be distributed more instead of less, because then the bigger amounts would have been sold to more individuals/different addresses. At least a pump and dump would have not make any real sense in this case, because many coins were bought via BTC/MOON-market and dumping them into the lower BTC/DOGE and BTC/LTC market would have been a loss.
legendary
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https://cryptodatabase.net
Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?
... that went to those addresses came from an exchange according to its history.

Addresses? It is only one address. Which history?

I don't think it was one person, who spent a ton of money on a pump. It was only a coincident, that MOON appeared in the top 30 on coinmarketcap after they repaired the false displaying of several coins in their list, because Mooncoin is traded on several smaller markets on Novaexchange, too. ASAFE/MOON for example showed a very high value which may have caused the average price of MOON be so high, that it appeared in the top 50. Then many people jumped on, because of FOMO - as usual. --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out
And Mooncoin rised to top 30 with prices on Bleutrade's DOGE/MOON market going higher than that of BTC/MOON markets. And with very high volumes on the BTC/MOON markets, too. Who would pump the coin by buying on that expensive market?

At least this showed very clearly what can happen when Mooncoin climbs up to these heights. And what volume can be generated then.

For everyone who wants to buy Mooncoin, see http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets first, in order to find the cheapest coin price. If you see MOON/DOGE being cheaper (at time of writing $0.000006 in DOGE as opposed to $0.000017 in BTC) don't buy MOON in BTC, buy it via DOGE (of course depending on the amount, since it may be that it becomes a higher price in DOGE if you go up, as we have seen). At the moment it would be good practice to scoop up MOON in smaller amounts on the DOGE or LTC-market ( https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_MOON/ ) until they reach the BTC-price. Just check http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets and compare before you buy in order to make sure you get the coins for the cheapest price.

I'm just going by what I see. MOON sky rockets up before falling back down. When it fell back down a new address appeared with 10 billion MOON in it that came from an exchange. This tells me someone bought a lot of coins, someone dumped a lot of coins, and when it was over someone withdrew a lot of coins. That's a big coincidence.

As for my use of 'addresses', those coins went through multiple addresses before arriving at its final destination. History is the blockchain that contains the history of addresses.
legendary
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Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?
... that went to those addresses came from an exchange according to its history.

Addresses? It is only one address. Which history?

I don't think it was one person, who spent a ton of money on a pump. It was only a coincident, that MOON appeared in the top 30 on coinmarketcap after they repaired the false displaying of several coins in their list, because Mooncoin is traded on several smaller markets on Novaexchange, too. ASAFE/MOON for example showed a very high value which may have caused the average price of MOON be so high, that it appeared in the top 50. Then many people jumped on, because of FOMO - as usual. --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out
And Mooncoin rised to top 30 with prices on Bleutrade's DOGE/MOON market going higher than that of BTC/MOON markets. And with very high volumes on the BTC/MOON markets, too. Who would pump the coin by buying on that expensive BTC/MOON-market?

At least this showed very clearly what can happen when Mooncoin climbs up to these heights. And which volume can be generated then.

For everyone who wants to buy Mooncoin, see http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets first, in order to find the cheapest coin price. If you see MOON/DOGE being cheaper (at time of writing $0.000006 in DOGE as opposed to $0.000017 in BTC) don't buy MOON in BTC, buy it via DOGE (of course depending on the amount, since it may be that it becomes a higher price in DOGE if you go up, as we have seen). At the moment it would be good practice to scoop up MOON in smaller amounts on the DOGE or LTC-market ( https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_MOON/ ) until they reach the BTC-price. Just check http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets and compare before you buy in order to make sure you get the coins for the cheapest price.
legendary
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https://cryptodatabase.net
Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?

It is a good possibility that this address belongs to the person who spent a ton of money on MOON and was the source of the recent pump and is pooling it together. The coins that went to those addresses came from an exchange according to its history.
legendary
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Sometimes decentralization and fairness may conflict, but finally, at the end, over long term - they come together.
Who needs decentralization if it's not fair? And fairness powered by decentralization is a great thing.
It was a decision of people who owned a lot of billions combined and preferred to lose their Cryptsy coins forever than let dump them on the whole community.
Anyway you can receive a compensation in fiat for your coins left at Cryptsy,
if you fill the claim at http://cryptsyreceivership.com,
and BTW the deadline is tomorrow (again and again we remind that to people who read us and might not know or not remember that)!

@ all here:

Please check this address: 2WfkSAnTzDZ1VjouGqh2nNtPZGMr1fJckZ

See https://bchain.info/MOON/rich/ or https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich or http://cryptoguru.tk/RichList/index.php?Currency=MOON

There have been many large transfers to that address (edit: since Sunday), it is now #3 on the rich list (at the moment 10 bln MOON).
I have checked a Cryptsy deposit-address and could follow an amount going to the above mentioned address over some other addresses.

Could it be another address of Big Vern - or one of his former employees/"mates" (since this is another possibility, that gets mentioned too seldom)?
We cannot be sure, that the top two addresses of the rich list, which obviously are blocked now in the wallet, are the only ones, Vernon owns. Maybe those two biggest ones are only the cold wallet-addresses and there have been other wallets in action, containing several different addresses with smaller amounts of their customers (deposit-addresses) which are now consolidated, after the price has become "interesting"? Maybe 2WfkSAnTzDZ1VjouGqh2nNtPZGMr1fJckZ is already an address at Bleutrade or NovaExchange? Barrysty1e (James), you have been in contact with both of them, right? Would you mind finding this out together with the exchanges?

Maybe it is a good idea for everyone here, counterchecking the route of their coins. If we can get other former Cryptsy-users to confirm this address being the endpoint of their Mooncoin now, we could involve the now active exchanges, to request verification from the person who owns that address, or to have them block this address altogether? Checking the route is easily manageable by using a block explorer and going straight through the transactions from the former (your deposit-address at Cryptsy) to the next address, to which the coins have been sent and so on - up to the last one.

Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?


And in the network just in these days appears Chinese connection ....
And this address too https://bchain.info/MOON/addr/2Z3AWQ6yfJXFNvYbK5WEsPPuuA2rbVVz3J
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Sometimes decentralization and fairness may conflict, but finally, at the end, over long term - they come together.
Who needs decentralization if it's not fair? And fairness powered by decentralization is a great thing.
It was a decision of people who owned a lot of billions combined and preferred to lose their Cryptsy coins forever than let dump them on the whole community.
Anyway you can receive a compensation in fiat for your coins left at Cryptsy,
if you fill the claim at http://cryptsyreceivership.com,
and BTW the deadline is tomorrow (again and again we remind that to people who read us and might not know or not remember that)!

@ all here:

Please check this address: 2WfkSAnTzDZ1VjouGqh2nNtPZGMr1fJckZ

See https://bchain.info/MOON/rich/ or https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich or http://cryptoguru.tk/RichList/index.php?Currency=MOON

There have been many large transfers to that address (edit: since Sunday), it is now #3 on the rich list (at the moment 10 bln MOON).
I have checked a Cryptsy deposit-address and could follow an amount going to the above mentioned address over some other addresses.

Could it be another address of Big Vern - or one of his former employees/"mates" (since this is another possibility, that gets mentioned too seldom)?
We cannot be sure, that the top two addresses of the rich list, which obviously are blocked now in the wallet, are the only ones, Vernon owns. Maybe those two biggest ones are only the cold wallet-addresses and there have been other wallets in action, containing several different addresses with smaller amounts of their customers (deposit-addresses) which are now consolidated, after the price has become "interesting"? Maybe 2WfkSAnTzDZ1VjouGqh2nNtPZGMr1fJckZ is already an address at Bleutrade or NovaExchange? Barrysty1e (James), you have been in contact with both of them, right? Would you mind finding this out together with the exchanges?

Maybe it is a good idea for everyone here, counterchecking the route of their coins. If we can get other former Cryptsy-users to confirm this address being the endpoint of their Mooncoin now, we could involve the now active exchanges, to request verification from the person who owns that address, or to have them block this address altogether? Checking the route is easily manageable by using a block explorer and going straight through the transactions from the former (your deposit-address at Cryptsy) to the next address, to which the coins have been sent and so on - up to the last one.

Is a blockchain forensic expert here, who could help us investigate further and advise us?
sr. member
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Facebook Mooncoin Exchange Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/833216996835617/
I'll create the twitter next, and pursue an online chat room as well for those who are outside of the Facebook and Twitter networks by choice.
sr. member
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To The Moon !
Interesting, Mooncoin was around 10 sats not that long ago…was that a glitch within CoinMarketCap? I remember purchasing millions of Mooncoin years ago, though I am pretty sure that Big Vern is planning on dumping the coins that I let go when the price goes flying past 20 sats or so.

And you're misinformed, too.
Please read the post above - about unspendable addresses. Mooncoins stolen by Cryptsy were not transferred to the Court (except a small percent of their amount),
and their outputs were frozen by barrysty1e in the new Mooncoin wallet, adopted now by 100% exchanges that have Mooncoin listed and by 100% other nodes.


I agree with this decision 100 % ! This  means 80 billions fewer coins... Smiley
sr. member
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Awesome, thanks everyone, I'm on it ! I can definitely create a FB group and twitter for it. 2 the Moon !!!
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
Sometimes decentralization and fairness may conflict, but finally, at the end, over long term - they come together.
Who needs decentralization if it's not fair? And fairness powered by decentralization is a great thing.
It was a decision of people who owned a lot of billions combined and preferred to lose their Cryptsy coins forever than let dump them on the whole community.
Anyway you can receive a compensation in fiat for your coins left at Cryptsy,
if you fill the claim at http://cryptsyreceivership.com,
and BTW the deadline is tomorrow (again and again we remind that to people who read us and might not know or not remember that)!
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 550
Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
Interesting, Mooncoin was around 10 sats not that long ago…was that a glitch within CoinMarketCap? I remember purchasing millions of Mooncoin years ago, though I am pretty sure that Big Vern is planning on dumping the coins that I let go when the price goes flying past 20 sats or so.

And you're misinformed, too.
Please read the post above - about unspendable addresses. Mooncoins stolen by Cryptsy were not transferred to the Court (except a small percent of their amount),
and their outputs were frozen by barrysty1e in the new Mooncoin wallet, adopted now by 100% exchanges that have Mooncoin listed and by 100% other nodes.
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
Barrysty1e,
can you please solve this conflict with CryptoDB?
Even if you believe it's not fair, you promised these 0.2 btc to him.

You've made a lot for Mooncoin and people trust you. A dev of good coin must keep his word.

We need to finish this conflict and go further, completing a new Smart Likes platform etc.
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
pumping and dumping for advertisement. all story is earning money from amaterurs

The Mooncoin price is around 1 Satoshi now.
If some whales don't dump, it could be listed at Bittrex (they have only BTC markets and promised some time ago to one our member to list MOON when it reaches BTC markets), yesterday MOON did it.

There are no amateurs these days, only wise crowds, who buy only top coins together with 'smart money',
or maybe make their own coin with a crowdsale. It looks like everyone is smart these days except us.

I believe in moon...but the biggest hurdle are not the technical behind or the public attention...the biggest hurdle for MOON are the 2 top wallets!
 Embarrassed

Greetz
Steve

Again and again:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich these 2 top addresses with 80 bil coins are Vernon's addresses (which were not reported by the Court and that means they were not transferred to the Receiver), that's why barrysty1e had made these addresses unspendable in the new Mooncoin wallet (which you all use since the March, 2017). If his protection works, then it's impossible to spend/to sell even 1 coin from these addresses. The last move at these addresses was before the fork https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich



wow...didnt know that.

thanks for clarification...

Greetz
Steve


Yes, people are severely misinformed about MOON.
They just see these 2 top addresses with 80 bil in block explorers and think there are devs coins or whatever.
They don't realize these addresses are unspendable (with coins stolen by Cryptsy from more than 10000 users who had MOON at Cryptsy).

Mooncoin is not an ico/crowdsale, people had and have equal opportunities,
it's a classic coin with 0 premine, there is no way to get it except mining and buying, no centralized team etc...

Do you realize? Even people who spend their money, time, efforts to support MOON, don't have any advantage,
any "reserved" percent of supply for their efforts, NOTHING,
they just buy it from markets like you.


People, yes, it's uncommon today, but Mooncoin has its own philosophy. Please do some research before posting another nonsense, based on what you see these days on markets with some brand new coins, no matter, if they are in top, or cheap. MOON has its own destiny.
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
If it's Mooncoin traders group where people communicate, share their ideas, strategies, discuss news, educate each other and newbies about crypto, exchanges, Mooncoin - why not? Really a good idea.

Only please avoid any price manipulation.
Mooncoin is known by the crypto community as an honest, fair and truly decentralized coin.

Mooncoin means equal opportunities for everyone.

sr. member
Activity: 499
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To The Moon !
Hey guys, let me know what you think, but for the past week, I've been on the exchanges very hard. Would it be unreasonable to entertain the idea of a "Mooncoin Exchange Team/Group/Community"? Perhaps those of us who are always on the exchanges day trading can come together for an overall strategy so we make sure that Mooncoin isn't down 95% !!! Kind of hard to get people interested in buying when red becomes apart of the brand.... opinions?? Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Huh


I agree too. It's a good idea... Smiley
legendary
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Hey guys, let me know what you think, but for the past week, I've been on the exchanges very hard. Would it be unreasonable to entertain the idea of a "Mooncoin Exchange Team/Group/Community"? Perhaps those of us who are always on the exchanges day trading can come together for an overall strategy so we make sure that Mooncoin isn't down 95% !!! Kind of hard to get people interested in buying when red becomes apart of the brand.... opinions?? Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Huh

Good idea Ok I'm there  Roll Eyes
You could create a Mooncoin traders group in facebook and twitter ...
sr. member
Activity: 499
Merit: 250
To The Moon !
Hey guys, let me know what you think, but for the past week, I've been on the exchanges very hard. Would it be unreasonable to entertain the idea of a "Mooncoin Exchange Team/Group/Community"? Perhaps those of us who are always on the exchanges day trading can come together for an overall strategy so we make sure that Mooncoin isn't down 95% !!! Kind of hard to get people interested in buying when red becomes apart of the brand.... opinions?? Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Huh

Good morning. These big fluctuations are explained  by the big differences in Mooncoin's  exchange rates with the others currencies. You can see them here:

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#markets.

The stability comes with increasing investment interest. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 270
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Hey guys, let me know what you think, but for the past week, I've been on the exchanges very hard. Would it be unreasonable to entertain the idea of a "Mooncoin Exchange Team/Group/Community"? Perhaps those of us who are always on the exchanges day trading can come together for an overall strategy so we make sure that Mooncoin isn't down 95% !!! Kind of hard to get people interested in buying when red becomes apart of the brand.... opinions?? Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Undecided  Huh
hero member
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Interesting, Mooncoin was around 10 sats not that long ago…was that a glitch within CoinMarketCap? I remember purchasing millions of Mooncoin years ago, though I am pretty sure that Big Vern is planning on dumping the coins that I let go when the price goes flying past 20 sats or so.
legendary
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No risk, no fun!
pumping and dumping for advertisement. all story is earning money from amaterurs

The Mooncoin price is around 1 Satoshi now.
If some whales don't dump, it could be listed at Bittrex (they have only BTC markets and promised some time ago to one our member to list MOON when it reaches BTC markets), yesterday MOON did it.

There are no amateurs these days, only wise crowds, who buy only top coins together with 'smart money',
or maybe make their own coin with a crowdsale. It looks like everyone is smart these days except us.

I believe in moon...but the biggest hurdle are not the technical behind or the public attention...the biggest hurdle for MOON are the 2 top wallets!
 Embarrassed

Greetz
Steve

Again and again:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich these 2 top addresses with 80 bil coins are Vernon's addresses (which were not reported by the Court and that means they were not transferred to the Receiver), that's why barrysty1e had made these addresses unspendable in the new Mooncoin wallet (which you all use since the March, 2017). If his protection works, then it's impossible to spend/to sell even 1 coin from these addresses. The last move at these addresses was before the fork https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/#!rich



wow...didnt know that.

thanks for clarification...

Greetz
Steve
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