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Quote from: Evangelo on April 07, 2017, 11:52:14 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:24:31 AM

Additionally because i'm an eccentric character:

moonterm (spv mooncoin console client)

fully working SPV-client (no blockchain required)
ported from https://github.com/bit-c/bitc.git
a very well written base for any SPV client, out of respect for the author i will keep the codebase name as is

if there is sufficient interest i will release the source,
i'm currently using it to learn about transaction constructor/serialization.

(stay tuned for the commodore vic20 edition)

Do we have enough interest yet? lol Grin

Windows version?

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Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:24:31 AM

Additionally because i'm an eccentric character:

moonterm (spv mooncoin console client)

fully working SPV-client (no blockchain required)
ported from https://github.com/bit-c/bitc.git
a very well written base for any SPV client, out of respect for the author i will keep the codebase name as is

if there is sufficient interest i will release the source,
i'm currently using it to learn about transaction constructor/serialization.

(stay tuned for the commodore vic20 edition)

Do we have enough interest yet? lol Grin

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:20:05 AM

Hi all,

Block reward changes as below:
block: 1100000 reward: 17906
block: 1200000 reward: 16414
block: 1300000 reward: 15151
block: 1400000 reward: 14069
block: 1500000 reward: 13131
block: 1600000 reward: 12310
block: 1700000 reward: 11586
block: 1800000 reward: 10942
block: 1900000 reward: 10366
block: 2000000 reward: 9848
block: 2100000 reward: 9379
block: 2200000 reward: 8953
block: 2300000 reward: 8564
block: 2400000 reward: 8207
block: 2500000 reward: 7878
block: 2600000 reward: 7575
block: 2700000 reward: 7295
block: 2800000 reward: 7034
block: 2900000 reward: 6792
block: 3000000 reward: 6565
block: 3100000 reward: 6353
block: 3200000 reward: 6155
block: 3300000 reward: 5968
block: 3400000 reward: 5793
block: 3500000 reward: 5627
block: 3600000 reward: 5471
block: 3700000 reward: 5323
block: 3800000 reward: 5183
block: 3900000 reward: 5050
block: 4000000 reward: 4924

https://github.com/mooncoindev/moonschedule contains code showing the function working (as extracted from mooncoin 0.10.5)

baz

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I do. It would definitely be ideal for the long term progress of Mooncoin. By having a unique mining algorithm, it would decentralize the cryptocurrency even further, not to mention that it would become more valuable if it experiences a cut in inflation. We need more investors and interest into Mooncoin, to help it achieve long term success. I would help in any way I can by promoting Mooncoin's features over at my Twitter page.

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Quote from: doriangray on April 06, 2017, 10:04:01 PM

Quote from: Bitbobb on April 06, 2017, 06:03:58 PM

I really love what I am seeing on this thread! I vote for reduction of the POW rewards to make the coin more rare!

I think MOON need more investors to get on board without the need to reduce the POW rewards.

@Doriangray..
I think with as many coins already out there investors have a chance to grab some already.. But lowering the rate at which they come out will make them more scarce and as more investors enter the moon ranks it would seem as price must rise??? And this way on a economical standpoint you would think investors may come running into the market to eat up the bulk out there.. And join the ranks of moon?? just a guess but seems plausible...

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Quote from: Bitbobb on April 06, 2017, 06:03:58 PM

I really love what I am seeing on this thread! I vote for reduction of the POW rewards to make the coin more rare!

I think MOON need more investors to get on board without the need to reduce the POW rewards.

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Mining from a wallet sounds like a great idea and if it can help keep the network stable that would be awesome. New algo would be a plus and with this plan, you don't have to rely on the pools and miners to keep the chain moving.. Sounds like a win win to me Grin

Also less coins per block is also a plus Wink

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Less hops. More wins.

I really love what I am seeing on this thread! I vote for reduction of the POW rewards to make the coin more rare!

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Quote from: coinflow on April 06, 2017, 11:19:56 AM

I already proposed that many months (years?) ago, but any change of the algo in that way was declined categorically by Mooncoin_Foundation.

i'd say probably for good reason to a point; not the easiest thing to do and guarantee compatibility, definitely not something you'd want a fly by night dev in charge of. so far argon2 has been mildly difficult to implement, but more patching, compiling, waiting and revising to be done.

Quote from: coinflow on April 06, 2017, 11:19:56 AM

See here for progress on the Mooncoin-p2pool-problem: https://github.com/Rav3nPL/p2pool-rav/issues/103

i had advised you that the reason for p2pool not working; is its requirement for getwork (p2pool requires getwork for low latency and this is why it works so well), as getblocktemplate isnt instant - in fact getblocktemplate (and its blocking of submitblock thread) has been responsible for many a lost bitcoin block over time. there are some classic back/forth jabs on github (or even here i think) between kano and luke-jr on this topic.

getwork isn't impossible (nor that difficult) to reimplement back into the codebase, however i'm not sure if an argon2-based coin has ever been trialled on p2pool - might be an idea to ask around first.

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Years ago there was another Altcoin era.
100 % decentralization ideas, never touch a code etc.
We were following these ideas,
and exchanges were delisting us, pools and miners were laughing at us, dumping coins on us,
holders were selling their MOON and were buying top coins or ICOs instead,
meanwhile ETH made several forks, BTC is planning a fork...

Several years of stagnation, of crazy expenses, of broken hopes of many MOON supporters.
But we can be proud: MOON remains a fair coin, our blockchain is 3+ years old,
and we follow our Sun - Bitcoin in our personal battle for decentralization and fairness of this world.

Now we have a responsible, experienced dev (there were only random devs during previous years, after disappearing of original dev) and may go further with near to zero chance to destroy MOON.

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Quote from: barrysty1e on April 03, 2017, 02:37:08 PM

nailed it, good point.
i've been toying with the idea of introducing groestl pow hashing into mooncoin; as even a few years after groestl caught on, the divide between CPU and GPU is only a factor of two. even an older CPU can generate a reasonable hashrate and participate in a pool. i don't want to jump in and make the call on my own; if things decided to move in this direction i would want it to be a community-based decision.

I already proposed that many months (years?) ago, but any change of the algo in that way was declined categorically by Mooncoin_Foundation.
Glad to see progress on that, as it is not the first time those problems with the blockchain occured. Too bad p2pool does not work anymore with the new wallet/daemon, as p2pool most of the time was the pool that found the next block after the blockchain halted, hence the miner(s) dedicating their hashpower there were investing more into MOON than those big miners/pools, that only went on to mine MOON when the hashrate was low, driving difficulty up, only to leave afterwards again and mine another - more profitable - coin, until MOON was cheaper to mine again ...

Don't forget: The first and foremost importancy are a stable wallet and blockchain. Without this all other gimmicks like MoonLite etc. are meaningless.

See here for progress on the Mooncoin-p2pool-problem: https://github.com/Rav3nPL/p2pool-rav/issues/103

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Quote from: Evangelo on April 06, 2017, 07:54:52 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 02:49:20 AM

Quote from: Evangelo on April 06, 2017, 01:38:03 AM

Is there a way to speed up blockchain confirmations? e.g. higher hashrate?

Confirmations can be taken two different ways; do you mean the amount of blocks it takes mined MOON to become spendable (COINBASE_MATURITY), or the amount of blocks required before MOON received can be spent, if it is sent to you by someone else?

Hashrate will help, but due to the block difficulty retargetting algorithm it will always even out.

Multiple confirmations in cryptocurrency are viewed as a good thing; as it means that the existing work has been proof'd multiple times, which aids in keeping the network secure.

Quicker confirmations in everyway I suppose, however, when you say "it will always even out" due to the block difficulty retargeting algorithm, do you mean the speed will always even out? e.g. the higher the block difficulty the slower the confirmations, the lower the block difficulty the faster the confirmations, etc.

If you apply a higher level of hashrate to speed the confirmations up; the difficulty retargetting algorithm will increase the difficulty of following blocks to compensate.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:20:05 AM

Hi all,

Block reward changes as below:
block: 1100000 reward: 17906
block: 1200000 reward: 16414
block: 1300000 reward: 15151
block: 1400000 reward: 14069
block: 1500000 reward: 13131
block: 1600000 reward: 12310
block: 1700000 reward: 11586
block: 1800000 reward: 10942
block: 1900000 reward: 10366
block: 2000000 reward: 9848
block: 2100000 reward: 9379
block: 2200000 reward: 8953
block: 2300000 reward: 8564
block: 2400000 reward: 8207
block: 2500000 reward: 7878
block: 2600000 reward: 7575
block: 2700000 reward: 7295
block: 2800000 reward: 7034
block: 2900000 reward: 6792
block: 3000000 reward: 6565
block: 3100000 reward: 6353
block: 3200000 reward: 6155
block: 3300000 reward: 5968
block: 3400000 reward: 5793
block: 3500000 reward: 5627
block: 3600000 reward: 5471
block: 3700000 reward: 5323
block: 3800000 reward: 5183
block: 3900000 reward: 5050
block: 4000000 reward: 4924

https://github.com/mooncoindev/moonschedule contains code showing the function working (as extracted from mooncoin 0.10.5)

baz

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I agree 1000 % too.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:20:05 AM

Hi all,

Block reward changes as below:
block: 1100000 reward: 17906
block: 1200000 reward: 16414
block: 1300000 reward: 15151
block: 1400000 reward: 14069
block: 1500000 reward: 13131
block: 1600000 reward: 12310
block: 1700000 reward: 11586
block: 1800000 reward: 10942
block: 1900000 reward: 10366
block: 2000000 reward: 9848
block: 2100000 reward: 9379
block: 2200000 reward: 8953
block: 2300000 reward: 8564
block: 2400000 reward: 8207
block: 2500000 reward: 7878
block: 2600000 reward: 7575
block: 2700000 reward: 7295
block: 2800000 reward: 7034
block: 2900000 reward: 6792
block: 3000000 reward: 6565
block: 3100000 reward: 6353
block: 3200000 reward: 6155
block: 3300000 reward: 5968
block: 3400000 reward: 5793
block: 3500000 reward: 5627
block: 3600000 reward: 5471
block: 3700000 reward: 5323
block: 3800000 reward: 5183
block: 3900000 reward: 5050
block: 4000000 reward: 4924

https://github.com/mooncoindev/moonschedule contains code showing the function working (as extracted from mooncoin 0.10.5)

baz

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I agree

I too agree

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Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 02:49:20 AM

Quote from: Evangelo on April 06, 2017, 01:38:03 AM

Is there a way to speed up blockchain confirmations? e.g. higher hashrate?

Confirmations can be taken two different ways; do you mean the amount of blocks it takes mined MOON to become spendable (COINBASE_MATURITY), or the amount of blocks required before MOON received can be spent, if it is sent to you by someone else?

Hashrate will help, but due to the block difficulty retargetting algorithm it will always even out.

Multiple confirmations in cryptocurrency are viewed as a good thing; as it means that the existing work has been proof'd multiple times, which aids in keeping the network secure.

Quicker confirmations in everyway I suppose, however, when you say "it will always even out" due to the block difficulty retargeting algorithm, do you mean the speed will always even out? e.g. the higher the block difficulty the slower the confirmations, the lower the block difficulty the faster the confirmations, etc.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 06:47:36 AM

Moonterm looks great like a simple lightweight client, and nostalgic at the same time.
MOON is nostalgic by itself. The era of Altcoin fairness has gone in 2014, but maybe back to the future?

If a common user is able to use it on Windows without downloading a full blockchain, it's great, it can be used for MOON Word recording onto blockchain transactions.
Does it require relying on a trusted node? Anyway can be usable with many purposes.

Definitely.

It doesn't require a trusted node, the initial screenshot was slightly misleading.
I actually switched from using clang as a compiler to gcc (clang was default on original repository), as a result it started binding to more than one host, was noticeably quicker and I can't get the send bug to occur. Fingers crossed.

Perhaps a small dig at Apple (who put a lot of effort into clang's development)?
Additionally, Apple users will be able to use this client as well, however it is not a favourable platform for me to work on; so support will be limited (treat yourself to a PC, you'll thank me for it).

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Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 06:36:44 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 06:31:16 AM

100%.

Thank you for MOON SPV-client.
Any chance for common users to use it with Windows or mobile devices - in future?

There is an assert issue that i'm debugging with send amounts at the moment (it is intermittent); but this is definitely possible for Windows, and i'd say the appeal of a nostalgic text-based client (even for a laugh despite being fully featured) would be there. It wouldn't actually be a lot of work either.

For mobile though; Moonrush is still going to be the most suitable client.
The reason behind the moonterm port - is actually to help me debug the sending issues that Moonrush was having pre-DDoS attack

Moonterm looks great like a simple lightweight client, and nostalgic at the same time.
MOON is nostalgic by itself. The era of Altcoin fairness had gone in 2014, but maybe back to the future?

If a common user is able to use it on Windows without downloading a full blockchain, it's great, it can be used for recording onto blockchain with MOON Word.
Does it require relying on a trusted node? Anyway can be usable with many purposes.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 06:31:16 AM

100%.

Thank you for MOON SPV-client.
Any chance for common users to use it with Windows or mobile devices - in future?

There is an assert issue that i'm debugging with send amounts at the moment (it is intermittent); but this is definitely possible for Windows, and i'd say the appeal of a nostalgic text-based client (even for a laugh despite being fully featured) would be there. It wouldn't actually be a lot of work either.

For mobile though; Moonrush is still going to be the most suitable client.
The reason behind the moonterm port - is actually to help me debug the sending issues that Moonrush was having pre-DDoS attack

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Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:59:43 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I think this is a good idea; Mooncoin has matured and it is probably time to ease off on the generous block rewards, as to keeping its value steady.

I hope i've added (some) value at least in my short tenure as dev.

100%.

Thank you for MOON SPV-client.
Any chance for common users to use it with Windows or mobile devices - in future?

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I think this is a good idea; Mooncoin has matured and it is probably time to ease off on the generous block rewards, as to keeping its value steady.

I hope i've added (some) value at least in my short tenure as dev.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on April 06, 2017, 05:29:33 AM

Quote from: barrysty1e on April 06, 2017, 05:20:05 AM

Hi all,

Block reward changes as below:
block: 1100000 reward: 17906
block: 1200000 reward: 16414
block: 1300000 reward: 15151
block: 1400000 reward: 14069
block: 1500000 reward: 13131
block: 1600000 reward: 12310
block: 1700000 reward: 11586
block: 1800000 reward: 10942
block: 1900000 reward: 10366
block: 2000000 reward: 9848
block: 2100000 reward: 9379
block: 2200000 reward: 8953
block: 2300000 reward: 8564
block: 2400000 reward: 8207
block: 2500000 reward: 7878
block: 2600000 reward: 7575
block: 2700000 reward: 7295
block: 2800000 reward: 7034
block: 2900000 reward: 6792
block: 3000000 reward: 6565
block: 3100000 reward: 6353
block: 3200000 reward: 6155
block: 3300000 reward: 5968
block: 3400000 reward: 5793
block: 3500000 reward: 5627
block: 3600000 reward: 5471
block: 3700000 reward: 5323
block: 3800000 reward: 5183
block: 3900000 reward: 5050
block: 4000000 reward: 4924

https://github.com/mooncoindev/moonschedule contains code showing the function working (as extracted from mooncoin 0.10.5)

baz

There is a suggestion to make these rewards 1/10 of current in the new release with CPU Argon2 mining.
It just will move MOON to satoshi markets, and miners will again have the same rewards in BTC, but very likely MOON will be listed at large exchanges and traded for BTC after you cut the inflation.
Who will support that?

I think that it's a good idea.

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