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Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 09:30:20 AM

Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 09:25:42 AM

the funny points are:

you are against AGSwinner and moon_F and...i forget...

however, you also...want to burn the coins....

s o why are you arguing?

(this same discussion seems to be every few days, by someone else)
its tiring.

(i am a paranoid. I can be talking to someone, and they yell boo, and ill jump lol)

(attacks are saying things like...'everyone else is smart enough, but not you')

im heading out to work.

ttyl

If you quote someone please quote exactly the same words... I never wrote 'everyone else is smart enough, but not you'.

And I am not against AGSwinner and moon_F ... I am against this bullshit move of proclaiming themselves those who can decide who is worthy of being "refunded" posting here a claim. Please read again my messages before quoting or trying to summarize things I said.

i wasnt quoting. just letting you know what it looked like from my perspective.

its difficult not to say things like that. i probably do it as well.

Perspective. thats how everything rolls.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 06:04:12 AM

I never asked to send me any information to my account.
I'm not a part of the process.
Don't send to me any information or to anyone!
The point is to burn coins with no legal risks. Please re-read carefully previous posts.

what people ask is fair.
why does Mr. Vissilis not respond at all?
why hides his lawyer name?
why he gives a chance to people to degrade #mooncoin potentiality?
his absence made all this crisis....

give your honest reply to this

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Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 09:25:42 AM

the funny points are:

you are against AGSwinner and moon_F and...i forget...

however, you also...want to burn the coins....

s o why are you arguing?

(this same discussion seems to be every few days, by someone else)
its tiring.

(i am a paranoid. I can be talking to someone, and they yell boo, and ill jump lol)

(attacks are saying things like...'everyone else is smart enough, but not you')

im heading out to work.

ttyl

If you quote someone please quote exactly the same words... I never wrote 'everyone else is smart enough, but not you'.

And I am not against AGSwinner and moon_F ... I am against this bullshit move of proclaiming themselves those who can decide who is worthy of being "refunded" posting here a claim. Please read again my messages before quoting or trying to summarize things I said.

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the funny points are:

you are against AGSwinner and moon_F and...i forget...

however, you also...want to burn the coins....

s o why are you arguing?

(this same discussion seems to be every few days, by someone else)
its tiring.

(i am a paranoid. I can be talking to someone, and they yell boo, and ill jump lol)

(attacks are saying things like...'everyone else is smart enough, but not you')

im heading out to work.

ttyl

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Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 08:57:42 AM

thats not trying to change the subject. wow. are you really that paranoid? it was just a funny moment.

Im having a relaxed conversation. like sitting in the armchair in the living room.



its not that they want to act on legal claims... they want to know if anyone HAS legal claims, that way,
if they do, the decision might change.

   chances are, no legal claim will come up that counters , so its a moot point.

are yo *edit, removed defensive action* (trying to keep this civil)

Alot of what i want to respond, would look like an attack, even tho its just rebuttal to the attack structure you made against me...
so ive retyped this 4 times now.

   (im sure you'll take that as a change of subject too)

Lets keep this as a Discussion please)

g

1) I am not paranoid Wink

2) putting there the word paranoid in the context I think helps you a lot to make my words seem less serious... I am sorry but not all people fall for it
3) If they want to know if there are legal claims they can contact the lawyers that are taking care of the cryptsy settlement... V &co. say that they are asking for legal advise, shouldn't their lawyer know this? Why do I have to explain that if they want to know if there are legal claims they should ask their lawyer to talk to other lawyers, instead of posting a 14 days countdown on a forum? Do you know that not everyone that invested in mooncoin or was involved in Cryptsy is here on this ANN?
4) I don't feel I am getting attacked
5) I am not attacking anyone... If you feel attacked maybe you are paranoid Grin

6) In my opinion I am keeping this a polite discussion... am I wrong?
7) I posted question to which no one still gave me answers... how should I take this?
8 ) If someone wants to act in this community and make decisions for someone else the least they can do is to always answer... disappearing is not an option.

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thats not trying to change the subject. wow. are you really that paranoid? it was just a funny moment.

Im having a relaxed conversation. like sitting in the armchair in the living room.

its not that they want to act on legal claims... they want to know if anyone HAS legal claims, that way,
if they do, the decision might change.

chances are, no legal claim will come up that counters , so its a moot point.

are yo *edit, removed defensive action* (trying to keep this civil)

Alot of what i want to respond, would look like an attack, even tho its just rebuttal to the attack structure you made against me...
so ive retyped this 4 times now.

(im sure you'll take that as a change of subject too)

Lets keep this as a Discussion please)

g

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Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 08:15:03 AM

(say this aloud, hehe...sry, thats funny to me)

You are good in trying to change subject... this is what people do when they don't have arguments.

Sorry for my english, but I think people that read are smart enough to understand my point... are you?

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Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 08:11:49 AM

Now... the claim may or may not be Valid... but thats not the point of this conversation.

nor the overall point... its just saying, I owned cryptsy coins, and Im ok with burning them.

simple.

if you had coins on cryptsy, and DONT want to burn them, you must get the fed court doc saying they accepted your claim,

and then argue your side.

oh and Burning them, (i think) would help mooncoin value go up a little. (not much, but hell 1/2 a sat would be a gain )

Seems like you don't get the point here ...

"People" here want to act based on legal claims, and based on that a certain amount of money should be send to some "people" and the rest burned.
A legal claim is not a right to have money back... do we agree on this?
And anyway a legal claim here is not valid... it is valid in court, IF and only IF the claim is accepted and the court rules that the rightful owner should have the money back.

Is it so difficult to understand that the "doing your own justice" is bullshit and "could" lead to scam?

This is not an accusation, this is being transparent about it.

I agree that the only "clean" way would be to burn ALL of the 62B coins... but is it legal? Why doesn't Vassilis tell us what his lawyer told him so far?

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(say this aloud, hehe...sry, thats funny to me)

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Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 08:11:09 AM

Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 08:06:16 AM

Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 08:03:48 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:06:14 AM

The point is agswinner alone is a major holder of Cryptsy coins (he was the main Mooncoin investor in 2015, he was transparent about that and has a real proof),
he agreed to burn coins, so he alone represents majority of Cryptsy coin holders. He is going to sign an agreement with Vassilis for burning coins, also if people don't claim a lot of coins till 14, February in this ANN thread, in fact it's really next to impossible to prove claims, anyways small claims could be satisfied even without touching these 62 bil coins, by Mooncoin supporters, who want to help, then obviously Vassilis could burn coins without legal risks.
Please do something, help with experts who can generate and confirm a burn address for Mooncoin, etc. You still cannot believe that the project is driven by you, not by me, agswinner or anyone else. We are just here to help and we are interested in it, but we cannot do everything for anyone.

Yeah... so let's do what agswinner wants and that's it?
Agswinner has no legal right unless he did a legal claim as for the settlement request for Cryptsy or if he is actually suing them directly..
but anyway he has no right at all to decide for the whole community here what will be next ...
and why is he the only one signing an agreement with Vassilis??

There are not only the 62B coin involved in this operation, because whatever happens will affect ALL of the coins in one way or another, being it price or future of the project, so please spare me the fact that he is the major holder of Cryptsy, he here has the same right of someone holding 1 MOON.

I am not doing any accusation, don't play the victim... I am stating facts.

no...your not.

thats the point. agswinner HAS done a claim. thats what the part a few posts above were about...

noone has has come forward and said they have done a claim.

so atm, he IS the voice of the Cryptsy coins... if you have a claim, put it forward, or leave it be.

and he is not the only one thats saying burn them. just the one with the most legal right to do so...at this moment.

Forgive me if I say this out loud: IF and only IF this guy callled "agswinner" has any legal claim this is not the place to acts his rights... he can act his right in the court.

Do you agree or not on this? Because if we don't agree on basic facts we are just throwing random words here and I don't care about it.

no, i dont agree.

This is not a Legal courtroom. we dont need it to be. this is just the community opinion. we are trying to determine community thought.

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Now... the claim may or may not be Valid... but thats not the point of this conversation.

nor the overall point... its just saying, I owned cryptsy coins, and Im ok with burning them.

simple.

if you had coins on cryptsy, and DONT want to burn them, you must get the fed court doc saying they accepted your claim,

and then argue your side.

oh and Burning them, (i think) would help mooncoin value go up a little. (not much, but hell 1/2 a sat would be a gain )

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Quote from: giantkin on February 05, 2018, 08:06:16 AM

Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 08:03:48 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:06:14 AM

The point is agswinner alone is a major holder of Cryptsy coins (he was the main Mooncoin investor in 2015, he was transparent about that and has a real proof),
he agreed to burn coins, so he alone represents majority of Cryptsy coin holders. He is going to sign an agreement with Vassilis for burning coins, also if people don't claim a lot of coins till 14, February in this ANN thread, in fact it's really next to impossible to prove claims, anyways small claims could be satisfied even without touching these 62 bil coins, by Mooncoin supporters, who want to help, then obviously Vassilis could burn coins without legal risks.
Please do something, help with experts who can generate and confirm a burn address for Mooncoin, etc. You still cannot believe that the project is driven by you, not by me, agswinner or anyone else. We are just here to help and we are interested in it, but we cannot do everything for anyone.

Yeah... so let's do what agswinner wants and that's it?
Agswinner has no legal right unless he did a legal claim as for the settlement request for Cryptsy or if he is actually suing them directly..
but anyway he has no right at all to decide for the whole community here what will be next ...
and why is he the only one signing an agreement with Vassilis??

There are not only the 62B coin involved in this operation, because whatever happens will affect ALL of the coins in one way or another, being it price or future of the project, so please spare me the fact that he is the major holder of Cryptsy, he here has the same right of someone holding 1 MOON.

I am not doing any accusation, don't play the victim... I am stating facts.

no...your not.

thats the point. agswinner HAS done a claim. thats what the part a few posts above were about...

noone has has come forward and said they have done a claim.

so atm, he IS the voice of the Cryptsy coins... if you have a claim, put it forward, or leave it be.

and he is not the only one thats saying burn them. just the one with the most legal right to do so...at this moment.

Forgive me if I say this out loud: IF and only IF this guy callled "agswinner" has any legal claim this is not the place to acts his rights... he can act his right in the court.

Do you agree or not on this? Because if we don't agree on basic facts we are just throwing random words here and I don't care about it.

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I will say it again: We can solve any problem or issue if we keep ourself positive !

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and he's the only one that signed an agreement, cuz noone else has stepped forward.

(really do ppl just skim the stuff, and whatever they dont like to read, they dont notice it)

you are hurting the community with the bs. why do all this False crap about it. over and over.

after the 14th, we know where the community consensus is.

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Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 08:03:48 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:06:14 AM

The point is agswinner alone is a major holder of Cryptsy coins (he was the main Mooncoin investor in 2015, he was transparent about that and has a real proof),
he agreed to burn coins, so he alone represents majority of Cryptsy coin holders. He is going to sign an agreement with Vassilis for burning coins, also if people don't claim a lot of coins till 14, February in this ANN thread, in fact it's really next to impossible to prove claims, anyways small claims could be satisfied even without touching these 62 bil coins, by Mooncoin supporters, who want to help, then obviously Vassilis could burn coins without legal risks.
Please do something, help with experts who can generate and confirm a burn address for Mooncoin, etc. You still cannot believe that the project is driven by you, not by me, agswinner or anyone else. We are just here to help and we are interested in it, but we cannot do everything for anyone.

Yeah... so let's do what agswinner wants and that's it?
Agswinner has no legal right unless he did a legal claim as for the settlement request for Cryptsy or if he is actually suing them directly..
but anyway he has no right at all to decide for the whole community here what will be next ...
and why is he the only one signing an agreement with Vassilis??

There are not only the 62B coin involved in this operation, because whatever happens will affect ALL of the coins in one way or another, being it price or future of the project, so please spare me the fact that he is the major holder of Cryptsy, he here has the same right of someone holding 1 MOON.

I am not doing any accusation, don't play the victim... I am stating facts.

no...your not.

thats the point. agswinner HAS done a claim. thats what the part a few posts above were about...

noone else has has come forward and said they have done a claim.

so atm, he IS the voice of the Cryptsy coins... if you have a claim, put it forward, or leave it be.

and he is not the only one thats saying burn them. just the one with the most legal right to do so...at this moment.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:06:14 AM

The point is agswinner alone is a major holder of Cryptsy coins (he was the main Mooncoin investor in 2015, he was transparent about that and has a real proof),
he agreed to burn coins, so he alone represents majority of Cryptsy coin holders. He is going to sign an agreement with Vassilis for burning coins, also if people don't claim a lot of coins till 14, February in this ANN thread, in fact it's really next to impossible to prove claims, anyways small claims could be satisfied even without touching these 62 bil coins, by Mooncoin supporters, who want to help, then obviously Vassilis could burn coins without legal risks.
Please do something, help with experts who can generate and confirm a burn address for Mooncoin, etc. You still cannot believe that the project is driven by you, not by me, agswinner or anyone else. We are just here to help and we are interested in it, but we cannot do everything for anyone.

Yeah... so let's do what agswinner wants and that's it?
Agswinner has no legal right unless he did a legal claim as for the settlement request for Cryptsy or if he is actually suing them directly (and anyway his right cannot be acted here on this forum but only in legal context)..
but anyway he has no right at all to decide for the whole community here what will be next ...
and why is he the only one signing an agreement with Vassilis??

There are not only the 62B coin involved in this operation, because whatever happens will affect ALL of the coins in one way or another, being it price or future of the project, so please spare me the fact that he is the major holder of Cryptsy, he here has the same right of someone holding 1 MOON.

I am not doing any accusation, don't play the victim... I am stating facts.

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Quote from: allsnioc on February 05, 2018, 07:54:01 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:09:28 AM

To avoid further accusations, I will not post for a while. Please don't PM me. I don't interfere with/in the process.
Vassilis must not send coins to any other address, other than a confirmed burn address.
Community has to find an expert to generate a burn address, and to confirm that this is a burn address,
and to convince Vassilis to send coins to this address. Or there will be no progress.

Smart choice to not post for a while until everything is done.. right?

Seems like it is the approach many that are involved have here.

I would think so. When i get erroneously attacked and falsely accused, I would take a break too.

Seems a few ppl are tossing out random attacks, that dont even have any bearing, just to add to the FUD.

Hope they are happy, they did what they wanted.

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on February 05, 2018, 07:09:28 AM

To avoid further accusations, I will not post for a while. Please don't PM me. I don't interfere with/in the process.
Vassilis must not send coins to any other address, other than a confirmed burn address.
Community has to find an expert to generate a burn address, and to confirm that this is a burn address,
and to convince Vassilis to send coins to this address. Or there will be no progress.

Smart choice to not post for a while until everything is done.. right?

Seems like it is the approach many that are involved have here.

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