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Topic: More Bitcoin adoption = lower Bitcoin/Usd rate! - page 2. (Read 4590 times)

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I think if Bitcoin can be valued against something other than fiat we can start making progress. Anyone got any ideas?

Fiat is just a handy yardstick.
If we assume that USD buys 1.3% more now than it will a year from now, and BTC/USD price stays the same, it means that BTC will also buy 1.3% less a year from now.
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I think if Bitcoin can be valued against something other than fiat we can start making progress. Anyone got any ideas?
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I suppose "doing so well" can be interpreted "I've spent shitloads of time and money on Bitcoin & got to pay huge electricity bills (which I'm not even bothering to include in my backstory) in return.  My apologies Smiley

...how do you explain the first few years? It was worth only a fraction of a cent and now it's over $260.
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...  I've invested in Bitcoin because I was betting that someone (such as yourself) will buy my coin from me @ a higher price.  So did everyone else who has made money on Bitcoin.
There you go with your assumptions again... I can't help that you got into bitcoin for the wrong reasons, that is not the reason I got into bitcoin and that's probably why I'm doing so well  Wink
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This thread is getting way off course. LOL
Sorry about that, but I'm not going to have some ignorant troll twist my words and then try to call me a liar  Huh
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If you read #2 in my post above, you'll see that I have already taken my original fiat investment out, so I am currently even, with a few digital tokens to boot!
Only Bitcoiners think that breaking even = making money.  Breaking even is not making money.  So now you know.
I think you should go back a re-read the previous posts because nowhere did I say that I was "making money", that was you putting words in my mouth with a silly reference to semantics.

My point after that was that I have not lost any money, as you were trying to assert, I am even at the moment.

You seem to love building strawman arguments to distract from the real truths...
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If you read #2 in my post above, you'll see that I have already taken my original fiat investment out, so I am currently even, with a few digital tokens to boot!

Only Bitcoiners think that breaking even = making money.  Breaking even is not making money.  So now you know.
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This thread is getting way off course. LOL
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If you read #2 in my post above, you'll see that I have already taken my original fiat investment out, so I am currently even, with a few digital tokens to boot!
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You've been caught in one lie, my scepticism is only reasonable Undecided
Which lie is that exactly... please quote it for me.

The lie that you've made money.  Even if I take your story at face value, you've only spent money.  You have made a few digital tokens, which you are not planning to sell.
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You've been caught in one lie, my scepticism is only reasonable Undecided
Which lie is that exactly... please quote it for me.
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^You clearly do not always tell the truth--you've claimed to have made money on Bitcoin, turns out you've only lost money thus far.  I feel my caution is justified Undecided
Perhaps my language was not clear: what I meant was that if I cashed out today I'd make 10x my original investment.

No.  It's your understanding that's suspect.  I neither believe that you're up x10, nor that you will sell today.  Just one of the above is sufficient to say that thus far, you've only lost money Smiley
I can't help it if you won't believe me... I bought coins at $27... you do the math!

You want me to do math the way you Bitcoiners do.  It goes like this:

1.  You bought coin @27.
2.  You also bought coin @600, 540, 480, 380, etc., etc.
3.  You got pwnt by your friend, the other Bitcoiner, who sold you shit he didn't deliver.
4.  Ignore (2) and (3), use (1) only to calculate mad profits.

Did I do good?
Nope, once again your assumptions are way off, it goes like this if you can believe/handle it:

1.  I bought coin @27.
2. I sold some coins for cash on localbitcoins to buy mining gear on Alibaba with my credit card, but that didn't come through so I got a refund (savvy huh) and put that away in my cupboard as it was the same as my original fiat investment.
3. I then bought mining gear when btc was @ $1000.
4. I bought more mining gear when it was @ $800.
5. I bought 3 Trezor wallets when it was at $300.
6. Now I'm still sitting with all my original coins in paper wallets and still have 3.5 extra to spend on whatever new bitcoin gadgetry catches my eye.

I avoided your number 2 because I bought all I needed when I first heard about bitcoin and held on to them.
I also avoided your number 3 because I did my research diligently before buying anything. BFL almost got me, but it was obvious that what they were offering was a pipe dream.

I'm not exactly a whale, very far from it, but I've definitely not lost any money in bitcoin.
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Sorry, you must have missed my edit... if bitcoin went to $0 tomorrow, I'd still break even.

Now you are not only lying, but lying badly.  Get good, brah Cheesy
There you go... if you can't handle the truth, call them a liar.

You've been caught in one lie, my scepticism is only reasonable Undecided
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^You clearly do not always tell the truth--you've claimed to have made money on Bitcoin, turns out you've only lost money thus far.  I feel my caution is justified Undecided
Perhaps my language was not clear: what I meant was that if I cashed out today I'd make 10x my original investment.

No.  It's your understanding that's suspect.  I neither believe that you're up x10, nor that you will sell today.  Just one of the above is sufficient to say that thus far, you've only lost money Smiley
I can't help it if you won't believe me... I bought coins at $27... you do the math!

You want me to do math the way you Bitcoiners do.  It goes like this:

1.  You bought coin @27.
2.  You also bought coin @600, 540, 480, 380, etc., etc.
3.  You got pwnt by your friend, the other Bitcoiner, who sold you shit he didn't deliver.
4.  Ignore (2) and (3), use (1) only to calculate mad profits.

Did I do good?

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Sorry, you must have missed my edit... if bitcoin went to $0 tomorrow, I'd still break even.

Now you are not only lying, but lying badly.  Get good, brah Cheesy
There you go... if you can't handle the truth, call them a liar.
hero member
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I got Satoshi's avatar!
^You clearly do not always tell the truth--you've claimed to have made money on Bitcoin, turns out you've only lost money thus far.  I feel my caution is justified Undecided
Perhaps my language was not clear: what I meant was that if I cashed out today I'd make 10x my original investment.

No.  It's your understanding that's suspect.  I neither believe that you're up x10, nor that you will sell today.  Just one of the above is sufficient to say that thus far, you've only lost money Smiley
I can't help it if you won't believe me... I bought coins at $27... you do the math!
sr. member
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Sorry, you must have missed my edit... if bitcoin went to $0 tomorrow, I'd still break even.

Now you are not only lying, but lying badly.  Get good, brah Cheesy
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I got Satoshi's avatar!
Sorry, you must have missed my edit... if bitcoin went to $0 tomorrow, I'd still break even.
sr. member
Activity: 378
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^You clearly do not always tell the truth--you've claimed to have made money on Bitcoin, turns out you've only lost money thus far.  I feel my caution is justified Undecided
Perhaps my language was not clear: what I meant was that if I cashed out today I'd make 10x my original investment.

No.  It's your understanding that's suspect.  I neither believe that you're up x10, nor that you will sell today.  Just one of the above is sufficient to say that thus far, you've only lost money Smiley
hero member
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I got Satoshi's avatar!
^You clearly do not always tell the truth--you've claimed to have made money on Bitcoin, turns out you've only lost money thus far.  I feel my caution is justified Undecided
Perhaps my language was not clear: what I meant was that if I cashed out today I'd make 10x my original investment.

Edit: oh and I've taken out my original fiat investment also, but that's just lost value in my cupboard since then...
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