Topic: More revelations on the challenges of physical casinos - page 14. (Read 2584 times)

That was definitely a scam attempt by the agent of the shop. It's the agent's responsibility to whom they give the money. I might win a lot, and then someone creates a fake ID card or something similar and goes to the shop to claim my reward. If the shop agent gives him my reward, then the shop agent is responsible for this loss but they are always very careful. In this case, I think that the shop agent was trying to claim the winning, e.g. he was scamming the real winner. Such a liar people should be fired from their jobs.

I personally prefer betting online. I don't understand why someone should make a bet in a local shop, it's very easy to make a bet online and claim a reward, you get it immediately in your wallet and don't have to leave the house.

Sure it sounds weird, but there could be some sense behind of it. Perhaps, we are talking about a gambling company which works within a model of franchises, in which each betting store is operated in a autonomous way by each agent, who happens to be the owner of the place as well. Probably, the owner of this specific betting place has some of his own money as bankroll of the business to continue to operate, thrus why he did not want to pay that bettor the money which was rightfully of his property.
Regardless of what happened, this is the kind of situation which shows when a betting house or casino is not to be trusted by the general public.

Well this will always depends on where you play and the size of the amount you won since there would be a huge risk to experience something bad if you won a lot of money on physical casino since for sure that there are lot of people watching you win will get tempted to do something bad and this is the disadvantage of this that's why I don't really like to play on crowded placed since I don't want to experience this scenario. In case of KYC verification process I'm fine with this as long as I choose to gamble on reputable casino since for sure that everything is on process and we have a lot of chance to get the money we won from them.

And for this its really crucial to choose the best casino we play so we can avoid any possible issues that we provably encounter since getting a lot of troubles is somehow not good to us especially if there's big money involve in the picture.

It sounds strange for me. I use bank cards for gambling all time i`m in the gambling. In such situation the agent can only match that you win. He don`t work with the money and can`t steal it.
PS. It is small enough sum, as for me. The agent can get big problems and lose his job for it. I don`t sure that he would get profit as the result of this steal.

It seems to me that the system used by these agents allows cases like these to occur, so I wonder where the government is that doesn't inspect agents? and how did the court decide that the agent should pay a small amount of money? How did the agent prove in court that the guy who won raised part of the money so the judge just ordered the agent to pay part of the money? These questions I have will not be answered. In my opinion, the entire justice system in this case failed, because it is not possible that the police did not investigate this case well. for a judge to make such a decision, then it is because it has been proven that the guy really raised the money, but here comes the question of what are the conditions for a person to place bets and what are the conditions for a person to withdraw the money.

As I don't live in Nigeria I don't understand how things work in Nigeria. but in my country it works like this: when the person arrives at the agent, they pay and place bets and the system records all the person's ID data. It is mandatory for the person to take their ID when placing a bet, then they give a piece of paper that confirms the bet, if the person wins, then the person must come with the ID and the ticket. then the agent pays the person everything they earned. It is mandatory that the guy who played withdraws the money with his ID and bitcoin. In other words, it is prohibited for someone to hand over their ID and send someone else to collect the money. When withdrawing money, the face of the person who won must match the face on the ID. So in my country there is no such type of fraud as I saw in the OP

The biggest benefit that I see to sop physical casinos is that the winners receive the prize immediately and there is nothing that can be done, however in online casinos, nothing more than the fact of requesting a KYC requirement is something that It bothers us, it already bothers me, I have only completed KYC with the casinos that I have been more direct in action, duelbits, rollbit, and some others, but doing more KYC for other casinos, that doesn't work for me, Ultimately I have had more experience with physical casinos, because it is something fast, if I win they give me the money, if I lose then I leave, but I have a different experience, I talk to people, among other things.

This is how this local shop does, when you go to their shop to place a bet with either a popular casino or gambling site they are representing as agent, when the games and matches are picked correctly and the agent place the bet after which he would print out the ticket and give the bettor a copy while he holds a copy but at this point the agent may decides to prints several copies, after the match ends the bettor may go back their to claim his winning if all the matches played correctly. But when there are several copies of the game anyone can claim it so that is where those agents do claims bettors funds.
That is why I will always encourage anyone gambling to use online betting platform, to reduce much hassle between agent and bettor.

Whether physical casinos or online casinos also have almost the same problems. Physical casinos have problems with agents who may become greedy by lying to winners. whereas in online casinos we can see that there is quite a drama that can occur when we want to make a withdrawal, such as KYC verification procedures or very long withdrawal times.
we must be wiser in choosing where we play. Choose a casino that is proven to pay and is trustworthy. Always be careful when we try to play at a new casino, whether it's a physical casino or online, the risks are the same.

I'm curious how where the other people are able to withdraw the cash without the ticket or the owner of the ticket. I don't know why but I feel like something shady happened and the cashier is part of it.

is it? any chance there's an explanation as to how other people were able to cash out the winnings without the owner or the ticket?

As you said, the winning ticket is in the hands of the winner, it doesn't make sense if the agent argues that someone took the winnings from someone else for themselves, that sounds ridiculous and irrational.

Gambling at a physical casino has many challenges and risks, especially if we win almost tens of dollars, this is a cunning and foul trick that is often carried out by agents, making excuses for various reasons, because they don't want to pay, We often see that in physical casinos there are fights between agents and players, one of the reasons, such as the case you mentioned here, is that for me I will not play in physical casinos, unless: I really know and know the casino agent well, that's a point for me, if they don't want to pay they will think repeatedly about the risks that occur.

Generally what happens in cases like that that I see, those who have only been to a physical casino once, the agent will cheat and treat players unreasonably, if they win, Of course, my advice is that if you want to gamble at a physical casino, try to come there with friends who are familiar with the casino, seen by agents, regular and valued customers.

Chances are low, especially to a known physical casinos, there's no mentioned that it's impossible, because there are already similar cases, but regardless it's rare to happen.

You are saying that incident like this cannot happen in physical casino? Even though I cannot lay hands on any post or account of such incident happening with physical casinos, I find it difficult to rule out the possibilities.

From the available information, the winner already collected part of the payments so it will be difficult for the court or authorities to really do anything about the case. The staff of the betting company involved have the intention to steal and I think he is playing smart. One thing I'm sure of is that he has spent a good part of the money and may not be able to pay it back. In other words, the best the winner can get is what he already got.

This definitely makes a strong case for the convenience and security of online gambling platforms, where transactions are digital and can be more easily tracked and verified. Online platforms often have robust systems in place to ensure that winnings are paid out directly to the account holder, reducing the chances of disputes or fraud.

This should not happen in physical gambling shops it's all the fault of the shop he should be as transparent as possible in running their business and he should prove within reasonable doubt that he already paid the winner, there is such a thing as bookkeeping when it comes to paying a large amount of money like the name and address of the one who claimed the prize a CCTV record.

If this spread in the vicinity where the shop operated the shop is as good as a failure, gambling platforms online and offline exist because of the trust of the bettors, take that trust away, and the business is gone

Avoidance means creating a personal account directly with the casino site with or without haven to go local shop to bets. I believe to become an agency there are other terms that governed them but it seems they are being overlooked, that is why most of these agencies go ahead taking people's money away from them after winning and the only way to have their money back is to sue them to Court.
When this happened they easily have to come back to return it. Now, this has nothing to do with the company rather agent.

Ah really? I'd avoid them at all cost then.

I'm curious if the shop or the brand are doing anything to fight this or their stance have always only been, just get your money from the thief-esque? because if this is happening too many times, there's a possibility that the managements have a lax quality control on their employees 🤔

IMO the brand should subsidize the losses otherwise people would be loosing confidence or perhaps too many players just don't give a damn and business is still flourishing? lol

This is a usual case in the country and I don't think is a new thing anymore because had came across lot of news related to this. The thing is online gambling is more preferable compared to this instead of going through a local betting agencies to place one's bet, i do as much as possible to avoid and limits all this grammar by betting online when you lose, you lose for all and when you win you have your full payout instead of having to go with your betting ticket. How on earth will someone have to come claim a winning that is not his or hers with what ticket per say? The betting agent should be carefully hold responsible for all the funds I believe he wants to play very smart towards those winning.

Sounds like it's not a casino, but just an outlet or small branch of a betting outlet locally. While physical casinos is nowhere near for this to happen. And it's incomparable to any physical casinos and online casinos.

Well, regardless, about this case, it's stealing. The court and authority will do something to the thief/staff or the owner itself as he/she is responsible for their staff.

If your making use of a physical gambling casino and you make a win in such huge amount of money, i don't expect you to make demand for being paid in cash, all they could require is your bank account details and they make deposit to, but if it were to be an online crypto casino, you may not have to worry because such could only be on the ground of receiving payment on your casino wallet, we also have to make use of a reputable physical casino, and that we see they are trusted over years of consistencies. 

For the benefit of those who didn't watch the video here are the points from the narration it gives a clearer picture of everything-

• The case is case is still in the court but there is nothing much that will be done
• The bet shop owner got his staff arrested because he suspected them of stealing money.
• He spoke to the winner and advised him to collect the remaining balance from the families of the accused staff.
• The parent company of the bet shop can't intervene since the shop where the incident occurred is just a franchise.
• The owner of the bet shop is out of the country and is primarily responsible for transferring winnings to winners' accounts upon staff notification. He isn't directly involved in managing day-to-day operations.