Topic: MORE THAN A DOZEN REPORTEDLY KILLED IN SHOOTING AT OREGON COMMUNITY COLLEGE - page 4. (Read 5698 times)
October 03, 2015, 08:20:58 AM
As much as I believe in the eradication of religion, I can't condone the shooting of innocent people for their beliefs.
October 03, 2015, 08:06:38 AM
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
Google. Use it. It's easy.
If there were no killing attempts,there wouldn't be need for saving attempts too in other words if you dont have gun to kill,you dont need gun to save either.
Its high time US govt considered gun free zone in the larger interest of their people but I dont think thats going to be easy given the strong weapon manufacturers lobby there
Maybe is time that you ask yourselves why there are so many mass killing in uSA recently, much more than in other countries?
Stronger gun control can help your society but it's question if your President Obama can proclaim such law.
October 03, 2015, 03:25:56 AM
Well the shooter was an atheist who hated Christians so what can we assume? Those kind of people might do anything because they are not able to use reasoning and can't control what they are doing. They are fully controlled by their desires and emotions and are even bigger safety risk than conventional terrorists.
October 03, 2015, 03:24:37 AM
There is what? 1 mass shooting a week? When should he talk about possible solutions? I never got the american fascination with guns. Are you safer because of them? Or have more freedom of speech than other western countries because of weapons?
Most people believe that they are safer because of them. Mass shootings tend to get a lot of attention. There is however no way to get attention to or even quantify the number of crimes prevented because people wore guns.
I selected your sentence, right clicked it, selected "search" and found this:
12 Times Mass Shootings Were Stopped by Good Guys With Guns
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
Google. Use it. It's easy.
October 03, 2015, 02:56:46 AM
There is what? 1 mass shooting a week? When should he talk about possible solutions? I never got the american fascination with guns. Are you safer because of them? Or have more freedom of speech than other western countries because of weapons?
Most people believe that they are safer because of them. Mass shootings tend to get a lot of attention. There is however no way to get attention to or even quantify the number of crimes prevented because people wore guns.
October 03, 2015, 02:13:40 AM
Well countries with less guns tend to have less violent crime -- With the correlation being income being lower leads to higher crime
If the crime rate is low in a region or a country, then the people won't be needing guns to defend themselves. That is why there are very few guns in countries such as Japan and Singapore. On the other hand, if the crime rate is quite high, then the people will go for guns. An example is Russia, where there are millions of firearms, but owning a firearm legally is extremely difficult.
October 03, 2015, 01:00:14 AM
Obama will probably address the public, then shortly later he'll push for stricter gun control any time a mass shooting happens...Times like these, I don't feel politics should necessarily be involved, but protocols like damn security guards being unarmed should be reviewed.
He did not even waited that long... What a sad president.It's like this every time. He doesn't address the public to mourn the deaths of the people, he does it so he can push for stricter gun control. He finds the need to turn everything to a political event the day after the shooting instead of address those who died or offering condolences.
There is what? 1 mass shooting a week? When should he talk about possible solutions? I never got the american fascination with guns. Are you safer because of them? Or have more freedom of speech than other western countries because of weapons?
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October 02, 2015, 09:27:03 PM
Well countries with less guns tend to have less violent crime -- With the correlation being income being lower leads to higher crime
That said de-arming the USA would take decades to get to Japan levels with all the guns out there.
I did it find it interesting how he Headshot Christians and Leg-shot Atheists sad as it is my condolences to those who died there and the victims families.
And Robot9001 Really of all the boards for a shooter to hang out in 4chan may have seen it first but the road from their to action is steep always blame /b.
That said de-arming the USA would take decades to get to Japan levels with all the guns out there.
I did it find it interesting how he Headshot Christians and Leg-shot Atheists sad as it is my condolences to those who died there and the victims families.
And Robot9001 Really of all the boards for a shooter to hang out in 4chan may have seen it first but the road from their to action is steep always blame /b.
October 02, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Obama will probably address the public, then shortly later he'll push for stricter gun control any time a mass shooting happens...Times like these, I don't feel politics should necessarily be involved, but protocols like damn security guards being unarmed should be reviewed.
He did not even waited that long... What a sad president.It's like this every time. He doesn't address the public to mourn the deaths of the people, he does it so he can push for stricter gun control. He finds the need to turn everything to a political event the day after the shooting instead of address those who died or offering condolences.
October 02, 2015, 03:14:38 PM
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Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
now doesn't exists, it's the oow aka OLD WORLD ORDER, to enslave all of mankind under the one, he will be called pharaoh by is inner circle.
agenda 21? if it's not based on a 4 years or 5 years plans (us military, CHINESE CIVILISATION) it's nothing... only a thing to kick back some dollars to stupid children from 3rd world countries, and offer them a decent job at one of the numerous un agency... (like in their home, banana style).
Emmmm. What can 1 man do? Ill have to think hard on this one.
epstein on steroids.
LOL yeah. That would be interesting.
October 02, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
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Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
now doesn't exists, it's the oow aka OLD WORLD ORDER, to enslave all of mankind under the one, he will be called pharaoh by is inner circle.
agenda 21? if it's not based on a 4 years or 5 years plans (us military, CHINESE CIVILISATION) it's nothing... only a thing to kick back some dollars to stupid children from 3rd world countries, and offer them a decent job at one of the numerous un agency... (like in their home, banana style).
Emmmm. What can 1 man do? Ill have to think hard on this one.
epstein on steroids.
October 02, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
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Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
now doesn't exists, it's the oow aka OLD WORLD ORDER, to enslave all of mankind under the one, he will be called pharaoh by is inner circle.
agenda 21? if it's not based on a 4 years or 5 years plans (us military, CHINESE CIVILISATION) it's nothing... only a thing to kick back some dollars to stupid children from 3rd world countries, and offer them a decent job at one of the numerous un agency... (like in their home, banana style).
Emmmm. What can 1 man do? Ill have to think hard on this one.
October 02, 2015, 02:59:33 PM
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Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
now doesn't exists, it's the oow aka OLD WORLD ORDER, to enslave all of mankind under the one, he will be called pharaoh by is inner circle.
agenda 21? if it's not based on a 4 years or 5 years plans (us military, CHINESE CIVILISATION) it's nothing... only a thing to kick back some dollars to stupid children from 3rd world countries, and offer them a decent job at one of the numerous un agency... (like in their home, banana style).
October 02, 2015, 02:46:45 PM
....
Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
"But hello Agenda 21. We meet again...."
It's called Agenda 2030 now. Agenda 21 was set to have the NWO in place for year 2050. Now they've moved it closer, so it's year 2030.
October 02, 2015, 02:28:43 PM
Bill O'Reilly Message To President Obama: I Have A Right To Protect Myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1bHNplo48
October 02, 2015, 02:26:28 PM
....
Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
"But hello Agenda 21. We meet again...."
October 02, 2015, 02:23:21 PM
....
Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about. Looking at the big picture. Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.
October 02, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
....
Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
OF COURSE ! to merge in some united nations bullshit.. I call it the GREAT DOMESTIC WAR... first the problem there is absolutely 0 money to be made on this one... sletch, niet, nothing at all... total cost less than 100M$... why? it's mostly civilian with maybe a few 100 "enemy combattants"... that's tragic... and the problem as it's a domestic group, there is no way to make it grow in size before wipping it out... for it's just a little training op for the fbi backed by the cia/nsa...
for starters i would start with those linked with cnn, and of course the state dep, doj... higher up first then rank down... this time there will no cave, at best it will be in a private bunker in a giant mcmansion somwhere... it's frankly pathetic...
imagine how fast the svd or mss would have clean those domestic enemies if it was in non occupied territories... (btw it's start to be a shame, name - family revealed... it's the SAME group, they will do everything in their power to weaken the us... even the PATRIOT OF RUSSIA knows that fergusson was scamed along the same line... wake up guys...).
it's not because they are weak that they can't inflict damages.
October 02, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
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Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.
October 02, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
....
Control laws wont do much. ...
No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this. The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.Control laws wont do much. ...
"Control laws" will not control that.
Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.
Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.
Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine." So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.
Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case. I carry daily. I don't conceal either. I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone. 18 rounds to boot.
Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it. Some say they feel safer while others say they dont. But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.
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