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Quote from: junder on December 01, 2023, 11:29:51 AM

Yes it is possible or very likely that there are some or even many people who can earn from their gambling in any gambling, but I would not really believe if there is the word consistent in income because in general the risk will always be greater but maybe they have a pretty good way that can minimize the risk and increase the percentage of winning or luck. Of course, when it comes to career I really don't believe a gambler can build a successful career, if there are some people who motivate others that they can use gambling as a place to make a "consistent" income then I think their mindset is disturbed, and as you said it is really not recommended because of the level of risk that is much greater.

There is enough evidence and facts that show that anyone who brings the mindset of wanting to make stable money from gambling always ends up with a downfall and many other problems. It is just a push of nonsense, and it makes sense as your suggestion if there are people who say like that then we will be able to believe if they provide real evidence, so we must be more careful.

Looking at the Op's perspective, gamblers shouldn't think a player can't make a living through gambling. Because as gamblers we are supposed to have met players who actually earn significant amounts through gambling. Don't know for online gamblers, but physical casinos comprises of these kinds of gamblers. And they also have comps that help gamblers to stay winning by earning points. On the other hand, it's not wrong to think of gamblers not winning consistently in gambling, especially for gamblers who haven't seen or read about such people. Somehow, these people who make a career out of gambling begin early to master how the machines work. Though risky for any other gambler, but a well strategized player that understand the house edge can make a consistent money via gambling. Your second paragraph is right, and it's one of the strategies of professional gamblers. They don't worry about winning big in gambling. The motive is enjoying the process and mastering slot machines or poker games. I grasp Op's obsession about such gamblers, as it sounds like they don't trust the power of gambling. The risk is high, but I keep telling people, that doesn't make it impossible.

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Quote from: junder on December 01, 2023, 11:29:51 AM

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Sure, there might be poker players out there, who play professionally and actually make profits somehow. But this type of "career" is almost impossible for most people. And I believe that giving someone false hope that gambling can be a method to earn a stable income is wrong and should not be encouraged. There are enough people with problems in the world of gambling, I see no need to further add on to those problems with such ridiculous claims.

If you want to convince someone that gambling can be a source of income, then you should lead by example and provide proof.

Yes it is possible or very likely that there are some or even many people who can earn from their gambling in any gambling, but I would not really believe if there is the word consistent in income because in general the risk will always be greater but maybe they have a pretty good way that can minimize the risk and increase the percentage of winning or luck. Of course, when it comes to career I really don't believe a gambler can build a successful career, if there are some people who motivate others that they can use gambling as a place to make a "consistent" income then I think their mindset is disturbed, and as you said it is really not recommended because of the level of risk that is much greater.

There is enough evidence and facts that show that anyone who brings the mindset of wanting to make stable money from gambling always ends up with a downfall and many other problems. It is just a push of nonsense, and it makes sense as your suggestion if there are people who say like that then we will be able to believe if they provide real evidence, so we must be more careful.

When it comes to consistency then it would really be that surely a non possible thing considering that we are speaking or talking about gambling knowing that chances and odds are really that against
us on long term manner. If you do mold up something like on the idea on having a living with gambling then you are really just that making yourself desperate on trying out to reach something
which it cant really be that too easy to attain or simply it cant really be just that possible. This is why gamblers do really play further because on having these kind of beliefs
on which trying out to achieve and make it that happen that gambling could really make them rich which we know that there are really that slim chances for it to
happen. Greed is what makes you that thinking up that way.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 01, 2023, 10:42:45 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Sure, there might be poker players out there, who play professionally and actually make profits somehow. But this type of "career" is almost impossible for most people. And I believe that giving someone false hope that gambling can be a method to earn a stable income is wrong and should not be encouraged. There are enough people with problems in the world of gambling, I see no need to further add on to those problems with such ridiculous claims.

If you want to convince someone that gambling can be a source of income, then you should lead by example and provide proof.

Yes it is possible or very likely that there are some or even many people who can earn from their gambling in any gambling, but I would not really believe if there is the word consistent in income because in general the risk will always be greater but maybe they have a pretty good way that can minimize the risk and increase the percentage of winning or luck. Of course, when it comes to career I really don't believe a gambler can build a successful career, if there are some people who motivate others that they can use gambling as a place to make a "consistent" income then I think their mindset is disturbed, and as you said it is really not recommended because of the level of risk that is much greater.

There is enough evidence and facts that show that anyone who brings the mindset of wanting to make stable money from gambling always ends up with a downfall and many other problems. It is just a push of nonsense, and it makes sense as your suggestion if there are people who say like that then we will be able to believe if they provide real evidence, so we must be more careful.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on December 01, 2023, 08:59:00 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

The thing is that although they have this believe and they still gamble, it's because of the thrill and fun experience that most person acquire that makes their brain and mind always want to gamble despite the believe system that gambling can't fetch them steady income, of which I do tend to agree with. Sometimes I wonder the criteria that is behind someone actually being a successful gambler because am sure success and the term gambling is hard to used together and that's my opinion but the way.

Allure of gambling which is driven by the thrill and fun experience it provides is a sentiment shared by many. The excitement and unpredictability associated with gambling can indeed be captivating, drawing people despite the prevailing belief that it's not a reliable means of generating steady income. The notion of successful gambling raises an interesting paradox, as success in gambling is often considered elusive due to its inherent risk and dependency on chance. Many people engage in gambling for entertainment rather than with the expectation of consistent financial gains.

Becoming a successful gambler is a complex and multifaceted challenge. It involves a combination of skill, strategy, discipline, and luck. Professional gamblers often focus on games where skill plays a significant role, such as poker or sports betting, and employ a disciplined approach to managing risks. it cant be forgotten to recognize that even the most skilled gamblers face uncertainties. Responsible gambling involves understanding the risks, setting limits, and viewing it as a form of entertainment rather than a reliable source of income.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling.

The point is not that you believe or don’t believe in ways to consistently make money in gambling, but the ~~harsh truth of life~~ statistics that most gamblers end up losing. If this were not so, the casinos would have gone bankrupt long ago.

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling.

According to the theory of probability, there must be such people. Of course, it’s good to believe, but can you give examples of such gamblers?

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money.

Maybe because in practice it is almost impossible to implement? Have you thought about this?

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

Maybe because these correct strategies don't exist, it is impossible to minimize the risk of bankruptcy, as well as increase the chances of winning? What if this is true?

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread.

You can officially announce that I am not welcome here.

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

It is this optimism, bordering on the edge of recklessness and greed, that leads gamblers to debt, poverty and broken lives.

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Finish.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Sure, there might be poker players out there, who play professionally and actually make profits somehow. But this type of "career" is almost impossible for most people. And I believe that giving someone false hope that gambling can be a method to earn a stable income is wrong and should not be encouraged. There are enough people with problems in the world of gambling, I see no need to further add on to those problems with such ridiculous claims.

If you want to convince someone that gambling can be a source of income, then you should lead by example and provide proof.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

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If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

The thing is that although they have this believe and they still gamble, it's because of the thrill and fun experience that most person acquire that makes their brain and mind always want to gamble despite the believe system that gambling can't fetch them steady income, of which I do tend to agree with. Sometimes I wonder the criteria that is behind someone actually being a successful gambler because am sure success and the term gambling is hard to used together and that's my opinion but the way.

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It's just like in trading where they say only 5% of the traders earn money through trading, So it doesn't mean that you won't see people or traders that make profit in the market, so bringing it back to gambling, there are also profitable gamblers but the percentage that earns money through betting is small in relative or compared to the number of people who lose money. Experience and good knowledge, and strategy, discipline are the key things that help one to become a profitable gambler. The majority of gamblers get it wrong and are not willing to learn, they're only desperate about earning money without proper knowledge.

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Quote from: jostorres on December 01, 2023, 08:24:33 AM

Sports

1- Arbitrage Betting: Find 2 sportsbooks offering different odds on the same event. It's usually easier to find on low-ranked games.

I would like to point out that many casinos do not like arbitrage. They may increase the deposit/withdrawal percentage (the arbitrageur often deposits and withdraws funds - so he is easy to track), impose restrictions on the number or size of bets or simply block the account

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

I am optimistic that profits can be made but I am also of the opinion that it cannot just happen randomly. You have to strategize how you are going to achieve it. I will suggest some options:

Sports

1- Arbitrage Betting: Find 2 sportsbooks offering different odds on the same event. It's usually easier to find on low-ranked games.
2- Cash Out: There are markets where you can bet and within a few minutes cash out in profit. For example, a dota2 game where one team has early game, they are likely to have a lead and then lose the game. You can take advantage of the fact that you know they will have early lead and odds will drop.

Casino

I think the only way to make money from casinos is by using promotions. It can be Eddie ve Stake, deposit bonuses with low wagering requirements, etc.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 27, 2023, 10:15:31 AM

This really depends on on the gamblers mindset. This is like a rich and poor gambler comparison. The rich one sees gambling as an entertainment while for the poor, it was different because in third world country like mine, majority of poor gamblers desperately want a winning streak because of something and that is "money" so they can bring food to their family. I know that some of you might not understand this but that is really what had happen even today.

But that isn't the topic mate. We aren't discussing how the rich approach gambling vs the poor. The thread is about how you can profit from gambling and those who don't believe in that, as OP said, can stay away from the thread Tongue

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I think we all win in gambling sometimes but the problem is that we keep gambling more and more until we have lost everything. Knowing when to stop after a win can go a long way to securing profits in gambling. Remember, the casino is a giant fish and you cannot eat the big fish so be happy with what you have won and cash it out!

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 28, 2023, 03:50:30 PM

Quote from: dezoel on November 28, 2023, 01:16:02 PM

I do believe that anyone can be profitable in gambling, so I feel I'm welcome in this thread.

Yep. Anyone can win in gambling, anyone can get profits, and anyone get money! Both experienced and beginners, have the chance.
But to get profits consistently, to get a good luck every time, or to win every time, it is something different. Gambling isn't the right place for the people who expect to get profits/money every time. There is no guarantee for any one to always make money. It is the place for entertainment or to get fun activities with a bonus of earning money.

But the problem is that only a few gamblers can make profits consistently because most gamblers will experience losses and it will cost them all their money if they don't have self-control. And that will have an impact on the wins we can get if we can get lucky because with that luck, we can win. But there is no guarantee that anyone will be able to make money from gambling. Gamblers who have been gambling for a long time should be able to know about luck, which cannot come all the time when we gamble. But every gambler wins, regardless of whether they can win consistently or occasionally because it also depends on the luck and skills they have.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

I believe that I can be profitable in gambling which is why I Gamble. I have also gone the extra length to watch tons of YouTube videos on gambling by most gambling professionals. I am looking to develop or improve on my gambling strategies. I would want to learn if there are new skills, tips and tricks that can help me to be better gambler. I have even considered buying their courses but that is a future plan . It is my optimism that keeps me going.

It is not about having the believe that we can make money from what we do but allow the probability of us getting the money. Sometimes we might try as much as possible to be optimistic about the whole thing and try as much to get in so that we can be lucky but we might not get fortunate. Gambling is not all about be too confidence about a particular game but doing what will make us make profits for ourselves. We need to do things that would bring money for us so that we can earn and also bet to win more. The believe we have about a bet does not really matters, what matter is how we play the game.

Not just for being optimistc but more on how you will execute your strategy and how you will keep improving your strategy there are many available guides and strategy that you may use as patterns or basis on how you will form your own ways of gambling at the beginning you may just try following or you may take time to practice using free bet coming from the site, though there's no pressures as there's no money involve at first,

when you feel that you are ready to better start using small amounts and try to work it out and see if how the strategy will work and how you can continue improving, there's always a process and you need to accept the fact that you are inside gambling which is more on the risk side so it's better to be wise when deciding.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on November 28, 2023, 03:36:41 PM

I believe that I can be profitable in gambling which is why I Gamble. I have also gone the extra length to watch tons of YouTube videos on gambling by most gambling professionals. I am looking to develop or improve on my gambling strategies. I would want to learn if there are new skills, tips and tricks that can help me to be better gambler. I have even considered buying their courses but that is a future plan . It is my optimism that keeps me going.

make sure that I have seen many youtubers and instgramers promoting their courses or support service from gambling platforms by sharing their affiliate links.
also I think their is nothing like courses for gambling, gambling is easy their is no learning for just predicting and placing chips the learning thing is to control ourself while winning and losing which cannot be learned by taking courses, and if they are selling some kind strategies then stay away from them there is not strategy to win in gambling, just keeping patience and discipline is key here. also I will say to everyone that do not play with money you need.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 28, 2023, 01:16:02 PM

I do believe that anyone can be profitable in gambling, so I feel I'm welcome in this thread. However, I'm not someone who believes in theories and things that are solely based on hope and wish and have very tiny chances of happening. There is no doubt that a gambler can be profitable if they carry out their activities with utmost care and show some discipline and stays within their limits, but no one can convince me that a gambler can constantly make money from gambling, no matter how disciplined they are.

I'm not a person who says things that he didn't see or experienced and are just based on assumptions and imaginations, and when I say that gambling isn't a way to gain money on a constant basis, it means that I've experienced it and I've seen others experiencing the same as well. If only discipline, skills, and strategies could make every gambler become profitable, casinos wouldn't be profitable businesses for their owners.

This is true, it's basically near impossible levels for someone to make a consistent income from gambling, and yet there are some people who think that it is possible, which is sad. I see those people trying to do that and end up with a huge loss eventually, that should be something that people be careful about and not fall for. Seeing some other person making money doesn't mean you will too, and yet newbies fall for it.

In the end, gambling is gambling, people are aware what they are going into, they should be aware that they could lose all their money and this isn't a secret, so the fact that they could do what they could possibly do, it's all based on their own decision, doesn't seem like it will be all that much of a big deal.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 28, 2023, 01:16:02 PM

I do believe that anyone can be profitable in gambling, so I feel I'm welcome in this thread.

Yep. Anyone can win in gambling, anyone can get profits, and anyone get money! Both experienced and beginners, have the chance.
But to get profits consistently, to get a good luck every time, or to win every time, it is something different. Gambling isn't the right place for the people who expect to get profits/money every time. There is no guarantee for any one to always make money. It is the place for entertainment or to get fun activities with a bonus of earning money.

Quote from: dezoel on November 28, 2023, 01:16:02 PM

There is no doubt that a gambler can be profitable if they carry out their activities with utmost care and show some discipline and stays within their limits, but no one can convince me that a gambler can constantly make money from gambling, no matter how disciplined they are.

If you do the right way in gambling and you try to get luck in few games, no doubt you will make money someday. But it is true that no one can guarantee to win the games every time, we have no exact ways to always win and get money. Even most gambling games are based on the luck, how we can increase the chance for luck? Undecided

Discipline, limit the funds, do certain strategy, and know well the games, are some ways to optimize the chance to win or make money. However, those never guarantee someone to win every time.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on November 28, 2023, 03:36:41 PM

Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

I believe that I can be profitable in gambling which is why I Gamble. I have also gone the extra length to watch tons of YouTube videos on gambling by most gambling professionals. I am looking to develop or improve on my gambling strategies. I would want to learn if there are new skills, tips and tricks that can help me to be better gambler. I have even considered buying their courses but that is a future plan . It is my optimism that keeps me going.

It is not about having the believe that we can make money from what we do but allow the probability of us getting the money. Sometimes we might try as much as possible to be optimistic about the whole thing and try as much to get in so that we can be lucky but we might not get fortunate. Gambling is not all about be too confidence about a particular game but doing what will make us make profits for ourselves. We need to do things that would bring money for us so that we can earn and also bet to win more. The believe we have about a bet does not really matters, what matter is how we play the game.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

I believe that I can be profitable in gambling which is why I Gamble. I have also gone the extra length to watch tons of YouTube videos on gambling by most gambling professionals. I am looking to develop or improve on my gambling strategies. I would want to learn if there are new skills, tips and tricks that can help me to be better gambler. I have even considered buying their courses but that is a future plan . It is my optimism that keeps me going.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

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If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

I think we need to be realistic... anyone can be profitable in gambling, and anyone can lose in gambling (in the short or long run), it's gambling. I am an optimistic guy, when I deposit I hope for some luck, but at the same time, I know my chances when I decide to bet on sports and when I decide to spin some slots. And that is the tricky part, there are games where we can consistently make money, but there are also games where chances for that are low. Since I love to play slots, normal spins, and bonus buys, I know how hard is to make a profit in every session. And I am not pessimistic here, I just have a lot of experience, and I know that I can buy a bonus and get x0, or have 200-300 spins without bonus round.

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I do believe that anyone can be profitable in gambling, so I feel I'm welcome in this thread. However, I'm not someone who believes in theories and things that are solely based on hope and wish and have very tiny chances of happening. There is no doubt that a gambler can be profitable if they carry out their activities with utmost care and show some discipline and stays within their limits, but no one can convince me that a gambler can constantly make money from gambling, no matter how disciplined they are.

I'm not a person who says things that he didn't see or experienced and are just based on assumptions and imaginations, and when I say that gambling isn't a way to gain money on a constant basis, it means that I've experienced it and I've seen others experiencing the same as well. If only discipline, skills, and strategies could make every gambler become profitable, casinos wouldn't be profitable businesses for their owners.

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