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Sharing your strategy is fine because we need to help others after all we are in the same position of trying to beat the house. But people should know that these are just suggestions and not a guarantee that you will win. If you tell them that it is a sure bet, they might use all their savings or even take a loan to place the bet. I am also willing to learn from you Wink

Yeah, I believe it's the best thing a player can do because if you're having wins with a strategy then others should also have those wins and that's why sharing of the strategy is the most beautiful thing a player can do. Even if someone shares his/her strategy that doesn't mean the others who follow that strategy will have consistent wins because everyone has differing phycological and emotional levels and if someone is winning with a strategy then the other one might end up loosing everything with the same strategy.

It's always better to guide those people in a proper way and also tell them about the risks that they might face if they won't follow the strategy the way you are following it. I think a disclaimer is always a good thing when you are sharing a strategy because if someone losses with your strategy then they will put all blame on your shoulder and may use bad words for you.

No one is actually an Ireland of knowledge, we all depends on each other the learn and gain experience in anything we are doing, using someone else's strategies and mixing them together with your own altogether will give something better than we could have seeby if we are not leveraging on other's opinion and strategies, we have seen alot of cases that it was at the cause of doing this some gamblers have the opportunity of seing some more exposure to what they have been doing for long, we therefore indirectly depends on each other in gambling and ours is to take the good sides and use, leaving the rest.
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I doubt that "most" gamblers feel the same way, I mean it looks like we are talking about a situation that would be a little bit different, we are talking about a situation that would allow them to be a bit different and think that it could be a bit weirder. I understand that we are talking about a situation where most gamblers are aware that they are not going to make money consistently, sure there could be some moments where you get lucky and win a lot here and there, we all did, but that doesn't mean that we all expect to keep having the same result at all times.

This is why it is quite obvious that we are talking about a situation that would be a little bit different, it is not going to be all that easy to handle one way or another. We need to make sure that it could be a little bit different. So not all gamblers feel the same way, and the ones that think this, will end up thinking it is not possible eventually so it is going to be fine and they will join our ranks to gamble just for fun.
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Optimism brings you to an interesting place. It’s a good feeling to have but obviously not enough.
You know what is even better? Having a good bankroll management, no hurry to make money fast and emotional awareness. Discipline helps a lot too.

It’s almost everything about calculating risks after all
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I think most gamblers do believe that they can constantly make money from gambling at first, there is no way a non gambler will judge gambling without trying it first, because it's easy to try it out now that we have online casinos, but truth is many have tried gambling few times already and they aren't pleased with the result they got.

Some are motivated to become a gambler because of their friends or some streamers video they watched online, and in the end they find out that it's not what they thought it was.

If you are consistently winning money in gambling it's because you are a rare species, someone who get lucky more than others, people with this great luck are not many, so accept what you are and erase what you are thinking before, not everyone can be this lucky with gambling.

I have lost a lot of rounds in gambling, but I am feeling good today because the amount so far is still ridiculously low, if you know your worth and you don't chase ridiculous gambling amounts you will be fine.
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Yes but the chances are very small friends to be able to get that much luck, so I don't think it's too much to gamble, another thing like you said if you have gotten a little luck and won then it's better to go home immediately and enjoy the money from your luck, going home with a face full of smiles is better than you keep repeating the same mistakes like acting greedy and again going home in tears, situations like that are very boring, so you should have the opportunity at least once to be able to enjoy the results of your struggle when you are really lucky.

I think whatever kind of gambling you do whether it's skill-based or pure luck like slots or whatever it is like the lottery you say honestly just never take it too seriously to get the results that match what you want, because if the end result doesn't match it's the same as you create a chance of disappointment for yourself by putting high hopes, so look for sure - just sure in my opinion.
Well, as the OP said, we can't stop them from believing that they could win or that a gambler can earn more if they keep on playing. Well, what the OP says is true; we can't stop them from believing what they want to believe and to do; in fact, it's their own life. We are just here to give advice or whatever. It is also true that many people here are being hyprocrite about gambling, things about limiting the gambling habit, or whatever for the sake of posting here, so yeah, we can't debunk what they want to believe.

Gambling is all about possibility—the possibility to have luck and win a big jackpot, or the possibility to be a loser in the end. It's all about possibility. If they want to risk that, or a gambler wants to risk that, then it's their own choice. We can't stop them; we are just here to give guidance if they need it, but of course the only ones who have the right to give advice are those who really have experience in gambling.

But yes it is true, the problem here is that their mindset is very messed up, and I would say that I think they have entered the addiction phase, because obviously usually if gamblers already have inviolable beliefs then they are too severe in terms of putting hope in a victory, some of the advice you give them will almost be useless and instead they will fight back with some of their defense reasons. Yes, situations like this are indeed very difficult and also on the other hand all of that is out of our control because basically they have the right to do everything they choose and what they think is best even though it is basically wrong.

That's why I'm sure you've also heard a lot of advice from others to firmly impose a lot of restrictions on the gambling you do, it's nothing but they care about you because they understand that if you are late and enter the addiction phase then the situation will be different again, you will not be able to get sober if only with a few suggestions and may require more  serious action. That's right, gambling is nothing more than a possibility which means that everything is still uncertain, we only tell you and  the rest is up to you because you yourself will feel the bad impact later, so go ahead, don't let you regret it because it's too late.
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To believe that you can consistently make money gambling is one of the worst thing you can do. We all know that casinos are designed to have a house edge. it is how they make their profit. This means, over the long run, the house is always more likely to win than the gambler. Sure, some guys do hit big wins or have lucky streaks, but this is more about chance than skill or strategy. Relying on gambling as a steady income source is risky 'cause, in the end, the odds are always against you. Thinking positive won't change the math behind the games.
Those who think like that must immediately change their mindset by realizing that they cannot make money consistently from gambling. They need to know that gambling is not a place to make money but only to get entertainment so they will not try to win every gambling game. They can only enjoy every moment of their gambling activities and cannot expect to win their gambling games. That is why they must be able to think clearly, not make gambling a permanent source of income, and prefer to look for other places to make money.
However, I haven't seen or heard anyone say that he or she have built a house or bought a house with gamble money, maybe as it is hard to win in gamble it is also hard to use gamble winnings to achieve what we want.
Even if we have make a plans to buy something or achieve something, as long as it is while we are gambling, it will be hard to stick to the plans at that time we win money from gamble.
Although, it is only hard for those that are addicted to gamble and the new gamblers but if in any case they are so disciplined, then it will not be a big deal for them to stick to they plans that they have.
No doubt, am not here to discourage gamblers or critize them, they love what they are doing and they know how to do it best. Have never come across a gambler who is successful or rather have not seen anyone building a house or buying a car from gambling profit, have only heard stories like that but have not seen. In my locality people win a lot sometimes huge amount of money and sometimes little money it depends but even with that huge money that person is still not successful and sometimes I use to wonder why.
From my view every gambler who place their bet well and win a huge amount of money can do something meaningful with that money that's what make a gambler successful, not only in the gambling aspect, I believe everyone here has a job and we receive salary monthly or weekly, but not everyone is entitled to that name successful, At the end of the day some will decide to lavish their money and some will invest. If every gambler can do something meaning with his money after winning that's good for them.
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This really depends on on the gamblers mindset. This is like a rich and poor gambler comparison. The rich one sees gambling as an entertainment while for the poor, it was different because in third world country like mine, majority of poor gamblers desperately want a winning streak because of something and that is "money" so they can bring food to their family. I know that some of you might not understand this but that is really what had happen even today.
The gambler's mind set has  a lot to do with his approach to gambling, if his mind set is aimed at making money most probably to make a fortune gambling he sets his gambling goal in such direction and in some cases turns out desperate and may be irrational with gambling.

If his mindset is towards entertainment then he gamble's with dependency on luck because he wouldn't have to be to logical since he just want to be entertained but then if he set his mind to making money which is aswell possible, his approach turns out different because he will now apply the rule of strategy even if we know it aswell doesn't guarantee success but it will definitely go a long way to provide him with an edge with which he increases his chances of turning out a success.
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.
I start to doubt if you are gambling. I have been gambling since February 2014 and I know a lot about gambling when it comes to profit and loss. It is good to let people know the bad side. Nobody is discouraging gambling, but newbies should know that gambling is not a way of earning income, this is where the addiction starts. As for most people, the success in gambling is not actually the money you make from it, it is what you achieved from it and a way you will be able to avoid losses with the money you can not afford to lose by not using such money to gamble.
Every beginner who thinks that gambling is done to earn income, I think they have misunderstood gambling, because it is very difficult to be able to win at gambling, you need luck to be able to make a profit in the gambling that you do, in gambling we must be able to control ourselves so that we don't experience addicted to gambling, because if you are addicted, of course this will have a bad impact on us, both financially and in our lives.

Indeed, the reality is like that, victory is difficult to get if it is not luck that favors me, I think victory is impossible to get, there are also many who misunderstand gambling that many of them make gambling a benchmark for making a living or to support their daily needs, of course this is not the right thing, if like this in my opinion in the future it will make it difficult for them in the future.

The mistake is not in gambling, but in themselves who misinterpret gambling itself, because of that many people are miserable because of misinterpreting gambling, if only they had a goal that was only to seek pleasure in gambling maybe they would not experience many losses that made them difficult themselves.
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.
I will state that it may be only 2% of gambler who actually make money consistently from gambling. Even some punters may not be among this 2%. I say 2% because I may not the far away from the truth. I see making money from gambling as a very risky venture and you really want to be care about encouraging others to join you. Because they may become greedy and become loose it all chasing losing, get into depth because they feel they can handle it an many more.
I would not discourage gambling because gambling can make a gambler more money quickly. But its number must not be high. Before starting every task a person needs to know the task well otherwise he will not be able to complete the task spontaneously. Gambling is where a gambler conducts his gambling activities without having any idea of how to conduct gambling, so even if he wins, he does not get to keep the winnings. In many cases, they become addicted and lose money. Gambling can really provide good entertainment if one manages to keep it under control.
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Sharing your strategy is fine because we need to help others after all we are in the same position of trying to beat the house. But people should know that these are just suggestions and not a guarantee that you will win. If you tell them that it is a sure bet, they might use all their savings or even take a loan to place the bet. I am also willing to learn from you Wink

Yeah, I believe it's the best thing a player can do because if you're having wins with a strategy then others should also have those wins and that's why sharing of the strategy is the most beautiful thing a player can do. Even if someone shares his/her strategy that doesn't mean the others who follow that strategy will have consistent wins because everyone has differing phycological and emotional levels and if someone is winning with a strategy then the other one might end up loosing everything with the same strategy.

It's always better to guide those people in a proper way and also tell them about the risks that they might face if they won't follow the strategy the way you are following it. I think a disclaimer is always a good thing when you are sharing a strategy because if someone losses with your strategy then they will put all blame on your shoulder and may use bad words for you.
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But I still want to express that I have no intention of becoming a professional player because this field is too stressful for me, and moreover, psychological control is not a strength that I can take advantage of in this field. So I can only consider them as means of entertainment.
I believe that very few in which wanted to have that profession lol.

Imagine being a gambler is already a hard task then what more about professionalism in gambling?
There are not a few.

This field has many participants, but most of them are gold mines for platforms to exploit money from people's pockets. I remember in the 90s, when I first watched movies about gambling, and indeed, the image of good gamblers greatly influenced our generation. It might be a twist on the filmmaking to attract attention, but I also know of some players who have good skills offline, but there are some things that I know are scams in gambling.

Regardless of the field, there will always be people with perfect skills, but we all admit that success is not for everyone at the same time.
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Maybe it's possible as luck might bring you those opportunities and with good understanding and capability to handle situation like this you may leave the house and withdraw all your money to enjoy and use it for such leisures that you plan to do if by chance happens to you. Though the chances are slim, we never know, right? Lottery winners are a good example and they just learn with great luck to make it happen and to achieve certain goals.
Yes, luck of course, gives a person a big opportunity to get a big win and after someone gets a big win, he is free to use his money for whatever he wants and he can even make a house out of his winnings. He can also keep the people around him a secret from where he got a lot of money so he can make a house. Yes, luck gives people hope to keep gambling and want to win. That is why there are still many people who buy the lottery because they can still hope to get the jackpot prize from the lottery, which is a lot of money.

I do not know why the gamblers still believe that they can get consistent income from gambling. Yes, those who are new or those who have never been involved in gambling, they may have this point of view but those who regularly gamble, they know how difficult it is to win consistently in gambling.

No matter how good you are in gambling, or how much experience you have, it is not possible to get a consistent income from gambling. Sometimes you may win more than expected while at times you lose more than you anticipated.

Gamblers need to re-evaluate their thought process if they think that they can earn a regular income from gambling. If they think it is possible, i would ask them to share examples of themselves or anyone who has been able to produce constant income from gambling.
That's because they still see people can win some money from gambling so they still want to gamble to win. That's also what makes them think that they can earn income from gambling when, in reality, it's not easy at all and they have to use a lot of money to win. And it doesn't just happen to experienced gamblers but it also happens to gamblers who have just gotten into gambling. Those who are new to gambling see that some people can win from gambling so it becomes an obsession for them so that they can get money from gambling too. They don't know that it is difficult to get because many things have to be sacrificed and it also doesn't guarantee that they can win some money.

Gamblers should be able to think that what other people get will not always happen to them so they don't need to follow what other people do. They only need to use gambling as entertainment and not to earn income, which will only result in them losing.
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Yep most gamblers don't believe they can make consistently money beacose gambling carer is very high risk carer. If you play reckless then you will loss huge amount and it's actually happened most of gambler face losses for going to make constantly money. It's risky to your economy if luck fevour then sometimes you can make consistently money but maximum time it's highly risky work. That's the reason they don't believe to making constant money.
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I read your post OP. You have mentioned that with right strategies, you can make more wins then losses. But here you are completely wrong mate. Gambling is all about game of luck, so no matter what strategy you follow, if your destiny has loss for it, then no one can save you from getting into losses. Yes, if you are talking about sportsbetting, then yes, upto some sort of skill is required to make the analysis, but in order to win at a casino game, your luck needs to good.
Putting up this kind of thread could lead to gambling disorder because newbies can be misinformed. The topic seems to be saying that gambling could be seen as a platform for steady income since one can consistently win. This means that it could be seen as a full-time job. But the truth is that gambling shouldn't be seen as a job because the income is unpredictable.

Even in sports betting there is no guarantee that one will win a bet. There are some games that you will never expect the outcome and an example is what we saw in the FIFA World Cup in Qatar or even the recent boxing fight between Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou. I have seen people that win big but it is difficult to identify a gambler that has been a consistent winner. Come to think of it OP didn't give us any strategy that we can apply to consistently win.  

Regardless of that discouraging part, i'm still willing to guide gamblers to make a profit only if they're asking for it because we aim to make money in the end, and it's nice to see others succeed with your help.
Sharing your strategy is fine because we need to help others after all we are in the same position of trying to beat the house. But people should know that these are just suggestions and not a guarantee that you will win. If you tell them that it is a sure bet, they might use all their savings or even take a loan to place the bet. I am also willing to learn from you Wink
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Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!
I might be one of those posters who discourage others because the earlier you accept that idea, the faster you can adapt and stem the bleeding from your losses. Some guides could even share the same concept because you mentioned minimizing risks.

Regardless of that discouraging part, i'm still willing to guide gamblers to make a profit only if they're asking for it because we aim to make money in the end, and it's nice to see others succeed with your help.
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I read your post OP. You have mentioned that with right strategies, you can make more wins then losses. But here you are completely wrong mate. Gambling is all about game of luck, so no matter what strategy you follow, if your destiny has loss for it, then no one can save you from getting into losses. Yes, if you are talking about sportsbetting, then yes, upto some sort of skill is required to make the analysis, but in order to win at a casino game, your luck needs to good.

OP is probably talking about skilled based game if you were able to understand his statement.

And you might have violated as you posted in this thread when you don't believe that one can win in gambling.
her's what OP stated.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I



We can discuss this no chance to win as gambling is all bout luck in other threads maybe, this thread is an evidence that there's some people who are optimistic in winning, call them stupid maybe but they do exist and they believe they'll win.
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I read your post OP. You have mentioned that with right strategies, you can make more wins then losses. But here you are completely wrong mate. Gambling is all about game of luck, so no matter what strategy you follow, if your destiny has loss for it, then no one can save you from getting into losses. Yes, if you are talking about sportsbetting, then yes, upto some sort of skill is required to make the analysis, but in order to win at a casino game, your luck needs to good.
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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

The consistent profit was not the possible one in gambling,because the gambler can't make profit after using the tactics for the gambling.The gambler who lay the random betting in the gambling sites had very low possibilities of continuous profit in the gambling.So the experienced gambler itself never consider the gambling as their full time job to make the continuous money from the gambling.The gambler who making the post related to gambling will have huge experienced in the gambling site.So with their own experience they ask to be safe to avoid of the risk.If you are not ready to hear the words of the experienced gamblers,you will suppose to loss some dollars at the initial stage of the gambling.But it can be avoided if you follow the experienced gambler words.

I haven't seen any gamblers who actually won because of the tactics they used, because I saw that 100% gambling, whether it's crypto or traditional gambling, can't really be considered a skill.

The only thing I'm sure of is that in gambling, it's impossible not to experience winning. The only thing that often happens in casinos is that most of the gamblers lose, and only a few win. Maybe it really depends on whether you win often when you play gambling.
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

I think I somehow disagree with you.

With the nature of gambling that is involved, even if you apply some sort of technique/skill on the games, the chances of a person winning is still dependent on luck. The application of skill can barely help a person win a given round.

Also do note that if this were the case, then everyone would be rich. This is the reason on why majority of the people who gamble just lose their money at the end. Gambling relies on luck and luck cannot be controlled absolutely. You can at least twist it to a certain extent but the odds are still the main factor which determine whether a person would win or not.

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If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

Even if a person remains optimism, the bank account speaks for itself! Man this is reality- gambling is a dangerous venture and everyone would agree to this.

Personally, I do think that you have yet to experience losing. You speak of gambling so highly that you quickly conclude that it can be a money-making venture. Open your eyes and accept reality- gambling cannot be profitable in the long run.
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Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.
I start to doubt if you are gambling. I have been gambling since February 2014 and I know a lot about gambling when it comes to profit and loss. It is good to let people know the bad side. Nobody is discouraging gambling, but newbies should know that gambling is not a way of earning income, this is where the addiction starts. As for most people, the success in gambling is not actually the money you make from it, it is what you achieved from it and a way you will be able to avoid losses with the money you can not afford to lose by not using such money to gamble.
Well spoken Oshosondy. It will be unwise to take gamble as a career or professional job that serves as a pure source of income. Gambling is meant to be an additional means of income. Such that you do not Soley depend on but rely on it for assistance in your financial life. There are days the plants go greener and some days plants wither. This is to show that even as much as a gambler have the opportunity to win a lot of times some days, he could experience a loss and perhaps during this time he was expecting the money for something or need it so urgently, but he got disappointed. However, newbies in gambling shouldn't be discouraged rather they should be encouraged to gamble responsibly. Even some gambling platforms do advice in most of their adverts. Honestly gambling has helped a lot of people to navigate from being a low-class individual to solid business owner. So, i don't see it stopping even in a thousand decades.
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