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Topic: Mother Forcing Chemical Castration & Gender Reassignment of 6 Year Old Boy In TX - page 6. (Read 1394 times)

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I don't think age matters much, you know what you are, thats what I believe.


You will probably cause more trauma to the child by forcing him to be something that he/she is not.
A Child isn't capable of recognizing the weight behind the decision of having a Gender Reassignment , and Science still doesn't really know
what makes people think they have the wrong gender.
I wouldn't let my kid decide if it wants to eat Cheeseburgers all day everday for lunch, so why would you let a child decide if it's in the wrong body at age 6 that's just dangerous and crazy. Some of those "treatments" are not reversible for example if you block your kid's puberty or get a gender reassigment surgery at an early age.
I don't hate trans people and i can accept the choice of "changing" gender when they are of legal age and can decide on their own after a thorough psychiatric evaluation to take HRT and / or get a gender reassignment surgery, it's a mental illness according to medical science with the remedy to the the symptoms mostly being a transition to the other gender.
It's in the DSM-5 ( Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders ) as Gender dysphoria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria .
Please don't let a Child decide if it wants to transition to another gender, when they can't even decide what toy to play with for example.
 
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Well, the title is wrong, the hormonal treatment is apparently set to start at age 8. Kids are very dumb but I think even I, by age 8 knew my gender, and it would have been much more obvious to the adults around me by then as well. Hopefully the experts are highly qualified and trained otherwise this will be a disaster for everyone.

I don't trust most psychiatrists in the US, most of them seem to be pushing drugs and their services on the pain of forced internment of their patients and veiled threats, they seem to push conformity at the cost of individuality.

Since it's the opinion of the experts + the mother I'm okay with what they're doing because of the fact that transitioning from male to female is very difficult at a later age.

It's interesting that this is considered sexual abuse but the religious right has done far worse for far longer. Circumcisions and mutilation and worse things.


I don't have the facts on this one, and maybe they're not out there yet. So I'm open to changing my mind as they come in. I have studied some college level psychology (AP course) and got high marks for it.

Kids aren't a complete mystery to modern psychology. I'll pose these questions to those against transitioning a child. What if you're wrong? Do you accept trans-people as they are? Is your opinion religiously motivated or based on reason?

I do not think I am wrong or right. For me it is a question of resources, mostly.

When it comes to the facts I do believe some people are born in the wrong body. The problem is on how to approach the issue. How much infrastructure and money should everyone put forth on the chance that one child might be telling the truth, or they are playing pretend on a serious topic? Should we start to bring kids to the ER when a boy puts on a dress to play with his friends? Should my parents have brought me to the ER when I played with my 'generic girl toy', or when a sister plays with my 'generic boy toy'?

I guess I don't agree with the treatment at that age in this situation. There has to be a way of knowing, with certainty, that the child is telling the truth before something as serious as gender reassignment surgery should be attempted.
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I don't think age matters much, you know what you are, thats what I believe.


You will probably cause more trauma to the child by forcing him to be something that he/she is not.
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I'm sorry for double posting, but I'll also submit this Quora link here. As well as copy pasting the top answer from User: Anna Nguyen
https://www.quora.com/How-common-is-it-for-transgender-people-to-regret-their-gender-transition-possibly-to-the-point-of-transitioning-back

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“What percentage of transgender people regret surgically completing transition? I read an article indicating the number was fairly significant.”

I can tell you right now that “fairly significant” is meaningless and therefore any claims including that is worthless. One person’s “fairly significant” is another’s “barely registering”. Vague and subjective claims are clear hallmarks of trolls, and/or of hostile agenda, and/or deceptive and manipulative intentions.

OK, now that’s off my chest…

The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (really, that survey ought to be prerequisite reading before asking any questions in transgender-related forums) of 27,715 non-cisgender respondents found the following, p. 111 (all emphases are mine):

"Respondents were asked whether they had ever 'de-transitioned', which was defined as having 'gone back to living as [their] sex assigned at birth, at least for a while.' Eight percent (8%) of respondents reported having de-transitioned at some point. Most of those who de-transitioned did so only temporarily: 62% of those who had de-transitioned reported that they were currently living full time in a gender different than the gender they were thought to be at birth.

Transgender women were more likely to report having de-transitioned (11%), in contrast to transgender men (4%). Rates of de-transitioning also differed by race and ethnicity, with American Indian (14%), Asian (10%), and multiracial (10%) respondents reporting the highest levels of de-transitioning (Figure 7.28).

Respondents who had de-transitioned cited a range of reasons, though only 5% of those who had de-transitioned reported that they had done so because they realized that gender transition was not for them, representing 0.4% of the overall sample. The most common reason cited for de-transitioning was pressure from a parent (36%). Twenty-six percent (26%) reported that they de-transitioned due to pressure from other family members, and 18% reported that they de-transitioned because of pressure from their spouse or partner. Other common reasons included facing too much harassment or discrimination after they began transitioning (31%), and having trouble getting a job (29%) (Table 7.6)."

The person above quotes this survey: 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS)
I will also post a direct link to the full 300 page report here: https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf

I would like to see if a further survey by the US government would support the USTS.
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Well, the title is wrong, the hormonal treatment is apparently set to start at age 8. Kids are very dumb but I think even I, by age 8 knew my gender, and it would have been much more obvious to the adults around me by then as well. Hopefully the experts are highly qualified and trained otherwise this will be a disaster for everyone.

I don't trust most psychiatrists in the US, most of them seem to be pushing drugs and their services on the pain of forced internment of their patients and veiled threats, they seem to push conformity at the cost of individuality.

Since it's the opinion of the experts + the mother I'm okay with what they're doing because of the fact that transitioning from male to female is very difficult at a later age.

It's interesting that this is considered sexual abuse but the religious right has done far worse for far longer. Circumcisions and mutilation and worse things.


I don't have the facts on this one, and maybe they're not out there yet. So I'm open to changing my mind as they come in. I have studied some college level psychology (AP course) and got high marks for it.

Kids aren't a complete mystery to modern psychology. I'll pose these questions to those against transitioning a child. What if you're wrong? Do you accept trans-people as they are? Is your opinion religiously motivated or based on reason?
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At what age did you finally recognize your gender?

Why should it matter? The age of being able to recognize your own gender isn't relevant.
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At what age did you recognize your gender?

My parents were responsible for my sexuality until 18, I suppose. I'm sure if I had asked to become a princess, my parents wouldn't go assign me a new gender. I would be a pretty humiliated adult if they would let that fantasy run wild, don't you agree?
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At what age did you finally recognize your gender?
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Where are you getting that number?  Did you not  know your gender until you were 18?    This has nothing to do with sexuality.  
I am speaking of my country (US) where you are considered a child until 18. (Adults are responsible until 18 is a better way to put it.)
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Where are you getting that number?  Did you not  know your gender until you were 18?    This has nothing to do with sexuality.  
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This has NOTHING to do with economic theory/marxism but has everything to do with the long term health of the child.  

I understand the idea of waiting until the child is older to make this permanent decision but by then it may be too late as the social stigma of being trans will already be engrained into the adolescent's mental health.  The outlook is not good for a trans teen. Suicide rate his high, etc etc.  
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Harrowing statistics from a study recently published by the American Academy of Pediatrics revealed alarming levels of attempted suicide among transgender youth -- with the highest rates among transgender boys and non-binary youth. The findings emphasize the urgency of building welcoming and safe communities for LGBTQ young people, particularly for transgender youth.

More than half of transgender male teens who participated in the survey reported attempting suicide in their lifetime, while 29.9 percent of transgender female teens said they attempted suicide. Among non-binary youth, 41.8 percent of respondents stated that they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.



Taking care of this now is the best option because on one hand the child is old enough to know she is a girl.  Being trans is not just a "phase". We're talking about someone who has likely felt like a girl everyday for as long as she can remember.  She isn't old enough to have been physically abused or lost will to live so there is still time left to save her from that trauma. Mothers want whats best for their children.  It is fathers who often seek some sort of legacy affirmation through their sons.

Male fragility is so rampant that you guys actually think this entire trend is aimed at emasculating you.  

Nothing to do with male fragility here. It has to do with a child's mind being able to even comprehend sexuality. You may as well let your 6 year old vote as well. Children will always be children until they have fully developed from it. There is no way to verify if a child is being facetious when they say they want to be a boy or girl. They don't have the developed brain to determine, and we have to wait for the brain to fully develop. Right now, most places say that the threshold is 18, and I think it should be higher.

When a parent is doing this, I feel like it is just a projection. The child just wants to play with toys and be innocent. They can't fathom these concepts at an early age.
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I understand the idea of waiting until the child is older to make this permanent decision but by then it may be too late as the social stigma of being trans will already be engrained into the adolescent's mental health.  The outlook is not good for a trans teen. Suicide rate his high, etc etc.  

Seems pretty simple to me.

Evaluation of the number of suicides attempted that could be avoided. Evaluation of the number of people teking early treatment regretting it afterwards. Compare if one is much more important than the other.

Take the best of the two solutions.

Easy.

edit: reminds me a bit of vasectomia. Under the pretext that you might regret it later, tons of people and doctors are against it. But studies show that not even 1% of people taking the operation regret it afterwards.
Nobody should care about opinion of both sides. Only thing that matters is the factual impact of the avaibility of the treatment.
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This has NOTHING to do with economic theory/marxism but has everything to do with the long term health of the child.  

I understand the idea of waiting until the child is older to make this permanent decision but by then it may be too late as the social stigma of being trans will already be engrained into the adolescent's mental health.  The outlook is not good for a trans teen. Suicide rate his high, etc etc.  
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Harrowing statistics from a study recently published by the American Academy of Pediatrics revealed alarming levels of attempted suicide among transgender youth -- with the highest rates among transgender boys and non-binary youth. The findings emphasize the urgency of building welcoming and safe communities for LGBTQ young people, particularly for transgender youth.

More than half of transgender male teens who participated in the survey reported attempting suicide in their lifetime, while 29.9 percent of transgender female teens said they attempted suicide. Among non-binary youth, 41.8 percent of respondents stated that they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.



Taking care of this now is the best option because on one hand the child is old enough to know she is a girl.  Being trans is not just a "phase". We're talking about someone who has likely felt like a girl everyday for as long as she can remember.  She isn't old enough to have been physically abused or lost will to live so there is still time left to save her from that trauma. Mothers want whats best for their children.  It is fathers who often seek some sort of legacy affirmation through their sons.

Male fragility is so rampant that you guys actually think this entire trend is aimed at emasculating you.  
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Headlines like this give me an unsettling feeling about parents and the struggle to maintain discipline. A 6 year old any gender will never have the median mental capacity to be able to fathom such a decision. To cater to a child's endless imagination in regards to sex is both disgusting and simply abusive. When a child says they want to be an airplane and then proceeds to fly around the room, we don't attach wings to their arms and tell them to jump off a cliff and start flying.
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WHOOPS, you are a psychopath who cares more about Marxism than the mutilation of children. You are a prime example of why it must be stopped. Thank you for exposing yourself for everyone here to see.


Blah blah blah blah...

Boring, trivial and wrong all in one.


Yeah but apart from that you don't deny sources without any reason or explanation at all xD

It's really funny to read you guys after you took a bit of distance. You're so... Predictible xD
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A study from the TransYouth Project found that trans.... trans..... trans.... trans..... trans....... trans..... trans...... trans..... trans.....

Blah blah blah blah...

Boring, trivial and wrong all in one.
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A study from the TransYouth Project found that trans children as young as 5 years old respond to psychological gender-association tests, which evaluate how people view themselves within gender roles, as quickly and consistently as those who don’t identify as trans.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/5/13/17938118/transgender-children-transitioning-parenting

Just another case of a father who can't accept that HIS SON is trans.  He probably sees it as a verdict of his own manhood.   /toxicmasculinity

WHOOPS, you are a psychopath who cares more about Marxism than the mutilation of children. You are a prime example of why it must be stopped. Thank you for exposing yourself for everyone here to see.
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This So called Mother is severely Demented. I feel bad for the boy.
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Can anyone tell me how any of this is distinguishable from state sponsored child abuse and mutilation? A six year old child doesn't know anything about sex or gender and would say anything their parent or parents want them to to get their approval. This kind of thing is becoming a regular occurrence and CPS are taking people's children over refusing to allow this to be done to their children. This subject needs to have more attention on it. This is an inexcusable trauma and permanent mutilation of children backed by state power. This needs to stop.

https://savejames.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_AcKYkifU
I agree.
What is the guilt of this child
I think there are problems between the couple.
This will certainly ruin the child's life
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Nasty divorce battle can fuck up some parents, and kids suffer in the process.

That's probably it. This "mother" is having her revenge in the most disgusting way. Some people set their house on fire. This one destroys the father's son.


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