The qualifying session was quite interesting. Maybe there was no rain but it was still very exciting. Because I couldn't even count how many times the laps of drivers were removed. This was a nightmare session for Perez as well. Because he couldn't even make it to Q3 because of this reason. His lap time was removed a few times due to getting out of track by a slight margin.
Not only him but also many other drivers were out of track limits at the same place. The exit of the last turn turned into a nightmare for those drivers. I didn't understand why Perez wanted to use all the track and push that much in Q2. If he pressed the brake a little more it was still going to be enough for him to make it to Q3. This was completely his fault and Red Bull must be really disappointed with him again.
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June 30, 2023, 01:38:38 PM
June 29, 2023, 04:42:21 PM
Let's hope this update will bring some stability and some grip like you said because the car is lacking both at the moment. If somehow , this update won't improve the car , I'm afraid Ferrari will fight for 4th place in Constructors Championship and nothing more and as a Ferrari fan, I will be very disappointed with their performance.
The car has already improved a lot in the last race they did.
They were probably the second team on the track.
If these progress will be confirmed this weekend they can be in top row in the qualify
June 29, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
Did you guys hear the latest from Red Bull? Helmut Marko said that they might consider Ricciardo as Perez's replacement if the former looks good at the tire testing after the British GP and if the latter's performance continues to dip. 
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
Ricciardo's return would be quite interesting. When he was the second driver of Red Bull once he wasn't driving like that in fact. He was always trying his best to bring the challenge to Verstappen. We have seen really lovely competition between them those times. But this didn't end up well for both sides in the end. I still can't forget how Ricciardo hit Verstappen from behind in Azerbaijan and finished the race for themselves. There was a really high tension between these drivers and this was a strong factor for Ricciardo to leave.
Now it is hard to say if we see the same old Ricciardo here. He wasn't that much competitive in his last times. Let's see if returning to Red Bull would fire him up again.
June 29, 2023, 03:40:56 PM
Coincidence or no, but after rumours about Perez future in Red Bull, today he become ill and missed media day, but he should be read to drive on Friday. It really might be illness, but it's also possible that he wanted to avoid media and their questions.
Rumor? Quite the opposite...
This information came from RedBull boss Helmut Marko, who told the Austrian newspaper Kleine Zeitung that Alpha Tauri will not only change its name but also its structure in 2024.
Apparently, this decision was due to the death of the brand's co-founder, Dietrich Mateschitz, which occurred in 2022.
AlphaTauri will have two new leaders, Laurent Mekies and Peter Bayer and will have new sponsors. I was curious, however, to know what this new name will be, but I think it hasn't even been defined yet.
Regarding the pilots, it is certain (at first) that Yuki Tsunoda and Nyck DeVries will be maintained, but it is not known until when, as the dissatisfaction with the performance of the Dutch pilot was highlighted.
Let's wait for more details.
From what I read they're not going to sell team, they planning to sell team name for sponsors. Something similar what Sauber is doing with Alfa Romeo. Mateschitz's son is against selling team as his father's vision was competing with 2 times.
Rumor? Quite the opposite...
This information came from RedBull boss Helmut Marko, who told the Austrian newspaper Kleine Zeitung that Alpha Tauri will not only change its name but also its structure in 2024.
Apparently, this decision was due to the death of the brand's co-founder, Dietrich Mateschitz, which occurred in 2022.
AlphaTauri will have two new leaders, Laurent Mekies and Peter Bayer and will have new sponsors. I was curious, however, to know what this new name will be, but I think it hasn't even been defined yet.
Regarding the pilots, it is certain (at first) that Yuki Tsunoda and Nyck DeVries will be maintained, but it is not known until when, as the dissatisfaction with the performance of the Dutch pilot was highlighted.
Let's wait for more details.
June 29, 2023, 02:22:03 PM
Rumor? Quite the opposite...
Yeah, it is official now.
BTW, big updates again for Ferrain, new bottom, and new front wing with the hope for a better grip.
Let's hope this update will bring some stability and some grip like you said because the car is lacking both at the moment. If somehow , this update won't improve the car , I'm afraid Ferrari will fight for 4th place in Constructors Championship and nothing more and as a Ferrari fan, I will be very disappointed with their performance.
June 29, 2023, 01:48:10 PM
Rumor? Quite the opposite...
Yeah, it is official now.
BTW, big updates again for Ferrain, new bottom, and new front wing with the hope for a better grip.
June 29, 2023, 12:44:36 PM
Did you guys hear the latest from Red Bull? Helmut Marko said that they might consider Ricciardo as Perez's replacement if the former looks good at the tire testing after the British GP and if the latter's performance continues to dip.
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
I feel like that's just way too much and just to make Perez feel the heat and race better. At the end of the day Perez is their second driver and putting Ricciardo back into the seat right now would not give them a better chance, he is there as a reserve driver in case anything happens to anyone but not there because he will take the spot. He will probably leave for another team with a very cheap contract.It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
Like Haas even wanted him but he was 10+ million and Haas couldn't afford him, as the reserve driver and getting cheap contract, he will accept any offer at any price and will find a seat next season. Red Bull needs a young talent, not Ricciardo, and they know this so they are not going to do it, this is only to make Perez fear and race better.
June 29, 2023, 08:22:40 AM
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AlphaTauri will have two new leaders, Laurent Mekies and Peter Bayer and will have new sponsors. I was curious, however, to know what this new name will be, but I think it hasn't even been defined yet.
Regarding the pilots, it is certain (at first) that Yuki Tsunoda and Nyck DeVries will be maintained, but it is not known until when, as the dissatisfaction with the performance of the Dutch pilot was highlighted.
Let's wait for more details.
AlphaTauri will have two new leaders, Laurent Mekies and Peter Bayer and will have new sponsors. I was curious, however, to know what this new name will be, but I think it hasn't even been defined yet.
Regarding the pilots, it is certain (at first) that Yuki Tsunoda and Nyck DeVries will be maintained, but it is not known until when, as the dissatisfaction with the performance of the Dutch pilot was highlighted.
Let's wait for more details.
I hope that AlphaTauri will stay like this, because it's pretty sad to see the AlphaTauri name being replaced by another brand or that Yuki and Nyck are being replaced by other drivers. But of course whatever RedBull's decision for the AlphaTauri team might be for the best, but if they change the brand and the driver it's quite unfortunate. Let's hope for the best for this team.
June 28, 2023, 08:47:59 PM
Small rumor for 2024.
This year will be the last year for Alpha Tauri, the following year they will have new "owners" and they will change the name of the team and most likely both drivers too, for a fresh start.
This year will be the last year for Alpha Tauri, the following year they will have new "owners" and they will change the name of the team and most likely both drivers too, for a fresh start.
Rumor? Quite the opposite...
This information came from RedBull boss Helmut Marko, who told the Austrian newspaper Kleine Zeitung that Alpha Tauri will not only change its name but also its structure in 2024.
Apparently, this decision was due to the death of the brand's co-founder, Dietrich Mateschitz, which occurred in 2022.
AlphaTauri will have two new leaders, Laurent Mekies and Peter Bayer and will have new sponsors. I was curious, however, to know what this new name will be, but I think it hasn't even been defined yet.
Regarding the pilots, it is certain (at first) that Yuki Tsunoda and Nyck DeVries will be maintained, but it is not known until when, as the dissatisfaction with the performance of the Dutch pilot was highlighted.
Let's wait for more details.
June 28, 2023, 05:02:56 PM
Small rumor for 2024.
This year will be the last year for Alpha Tauri, the following year they will have new "owners" and they will change the name of the team and most likely both drivers too, for a fresh start.
This year will be the last year for Alpha Tauri, the following year they will have new "owners" and they will change the name of the team and most likely both drivers too, for a fresh start.
June 28, 2023, 04:18:35 PM
Alonso has become Mr Consistent for this season. Because as far as I remember he was always on podium except two races so far. Aston Martin's making a big progress in their car created a huge opportunity for Alonso to have a solid season. They drive the same car but Stroll can't perform even close to Alonso's level. I guess even Stroll's father isn't contented with his son's performance so far at all. Stroll is actually not a bad driver in my opinion. He is skilled in fact but he still needs to improve his skills much more.
In fact Stroll has been pleasing his team less and less... Perhaps the brilliance of Fernando Alonso in his first year for Aston Martin is overshadowing his teammate a little, but it is undeniable that the Spanish driver has faced many difficulties in these last few races.
Unfortunately, this difference in performance between the two pilots is already so great that dismissal is already something that is being considered behind the scenes of the team. I think this just hasn't happened yet because of the "simple fact" that he is the son of boss Lawrence, after all... if not even his own father wants him on the team, who else could accept him?
In any case, millions could soon be lost with this poor performance by Stroll if we analyze it from the point of view of investors and sponsors, many of them are certainly also very unhappy to put their names on the car of someone who is often in the last places.
Yeah we don't even know if there would be team on the line to sign Stroll in case of Aston Martin's parting ways with him. But I'm sure that he would have sent from the team already by now if he wasn't Lawrence's son.
Because Aston Martin car has such a potential and Alonso is using up all of it in every race. He is having a wonderful season. But Aston Martin would even fight for constructors' championship with Red Bull if they have a more successful driver right beside Alonso.Stroll is really causing a serious loss after all of Aston Martin's work to prepare strongly for this season. I wonder if Lawrence changes his mind about his son in case he doesn't improve his performance during the whole season. Maybe he would be the third driver then.
June 28, 2023, 03:34:37 PM
Did you guys hear the latest from Red Bull? Helmut Marko said that they might consider Ricciardo as Perez's replacement if the former looks good at the tire testing after the British GP and if the latter's performance continues to dip.
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
I think that Perez is getting to much hate recently. Yes, few recent races was terrible for him, but things can't be perfect always. C'mon, remember how he started season that there even was some talk that he can challenge Verstappen for the title. And he is one of reasons why Max got his title in 2021.It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
As much as I like Ricciardio, I doubt that he can perform much better than Perez.
June 28, 2023, 09:02:30 AM
Did you guys hear the latest from Red Bull? Helmut Marko said that they might consider Ricciardo as Perez's replacement if the former looks good at the tire testing after the British GP and if the latter's performance continues to dip.
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
It's funny cos the minute RBR got Ricciardo as their reserve driver, anybody who follows F1 would have an inkling that Perez's days are numbered. Marko never really liked Perez judging from the way he talks about him. He also said that RBR never intended for Perez to stay this long with the team. :/
June 28, 2023, 06:38:54 AM
Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.
But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.
But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.
I am afraid that won't happen.The reason being a simple one,the age difference,no matter how great of a driver Hamilton maybe his time has passed now and I doubt if he can win another Championship even when he will have a Mercedes able to compare with Redbull,I don't see any great personal performance from him with Mercedes and if he is the 7 times World Champion he should surely do a great performance,I am not saying winning the race but to make some nice overtaking that his experience can do.
Having said that I think this season is already over as Perez is the most mediocre driver on the grid for me having the same car as Verstappen and struggling to at least be second,he is far from being second so Verstappen is already Champion this year and we should wait next season to see if any team is able to match Redbull pace,for this season we can already forget about such happenings.
@swogerino I felt that Hamilton could have retired at his peak as the most successful driver but instead he decides to stay back and continued losing his title one that he easily use to win few year’s ago. Furthermore unless Mercedes can fix their issues overnight which we all know won’t happen I doubt that he’ll win and it’s such a shame that after such a legendary career he’s in such a low spot.
Retire as his peak ? You mean when we was clearly robbed of 8th title ? well yes , I'm sure he would have retired after that but instead FIA wanted to screw him over and give Max the title and that meant for Lewis to stay as much as he can in F1 in order to chase victories once again. I don't see him being in a low spot at all , we are still talking about 7 time world champion and on pair with Michael so I don't see this as a low in his career because McLaren of 2010 2011 was awful vs the current Mercedes so yea , he had some bad cars during his career but nothing like that McLaren.
June 28, 2023, 06:34:30 AM
Ferrari really has a big potential to get way stronger than this. Just imagine it has reached at least the level it had at the beginning of the previous season. Leclerc was able to fight back against Verstappen in a solid way. But for now Ferrari is dealing with some important issues and this even pushed it behind Mercedes and Aston Martin both. Let's say Ferrari managed to get ahead of both of these teams and even reached Red Bull's level. Then I will still not be confident about anything for Ferrari.
Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
It has been always obvious that the pit crew and the TP and all that is not the reason why they are not good. Ferrari has a bad race executive at the head of all of this, and I do not mean just formula 1, I mean literally everything else, look at how great they did at le mans 24 after just getting it so many years later, which shows the fact that they can be amazing if they do not get stopped. But because they have a terrible executive, they can't build a good team.Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
With right management, a good budget, and basically a car engineering squad with a CTO that is beyond what they already had, they could build a car and manage it amazingly. They end up making mistakes after mistakes after mistakes which causes them to lose so much points.
June 28, 2023, 01:14:26 AM
Ferrari really has a big potential to get way stronger than this. Just imagine it has reached at least the level it had at the beginning of the previous season. Leclerc was able to fight back against Verstappen in a solid way. But for now Ferrari is dealing with some important issues and this even pushed it behind Mercedes and Aston Martin both. Let's say Ferrari managed to get ahead of both of these teams and even reached Red Bull's level. Then I will still not be confident about anything for Ferrari.
Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
The most annoying thing about Ferrari is their inconsistency in maintaining their performance. Even Leclerc himself admitted this that their team was inconsistent and this prevented Leclerc and Sainz from improving to catch up with other drivers. If only Ferrari could be consistent like Mercedes did, maybe they wouldn't be under Aston Martin. But I admit that Ferrari's performance in the previous race was very good, which placed the two drivers in positions 4 and 5 and hopefully this performance can be maintained by Ferrari in the next race.
June 27, 2023, 07:44:20 PM
Alonso has become Mr Consistent for this season. Because as far as I remember he was always on podium except two races so far. Aston Martin's making a big progress in their car created a huge opportunity for Alonso to have a solid season. They drive the same car but Stroll can't perform even close to Alonso's level. I guess even Stroll's father isn't contented with his son's performance so far at all. Stroll is actually not a bad driver in my opinion. He is skilled in fact but he still needs to improve his skills much more.
In fact Stroll has been pleasing his team less and less... Perhaps the brilliance of Fernando Alonso in his first year for Aston Martin is overshadowing his teammate a little, but it is undeniable that the Spanish driver has faced many difficulties in these last few races.
Unfortunately, this difference in performance between the two pilots is already so great that dismissal is already something that is being considered behind the scenes of the team. I think this just hasn't happened yet because of the "simple fact" that he is the son of boss Lawrence, after all... if not even his own father wants him on the team, who else could accept him?
In any case, millions could soon be lost with this poor performance by Stroll if we analyze it from the point of view of investors and sponsors, many of them are certainly also very unhappy to put their names on the car of someone who is often in the last places.
June 27, 2023, 05:25:31 PM
Alonso has become Mr Consistent for this season. Because as far as I remember he was always on podium except two races so far. Aston Martin's making a big progress in their car created a huge opportunity for Alonso to have a solid season. They drive the same car but Stroll can't perform even close to Alonso's level. I guess even Stroll's father isn't contented with his son's performance so far at all. Stroll is actually not a bad driver in my opinion. He is skilled in fact but he still needs to improve his skills much more.
In the Austrian GP I will be expecting the same ambition from Alonso. It would be lovely to see another rivalry between him and Hamilton again here.
In the Austrian GP I will be expecting the same ambition from Alonso. It would be lovely to see another rivalry between him and Hamilton again here.
June 27, 2023, 12:38:34 PM
Austria track is normally a quite short one normally but rain can extend lap times quite much for certain. But not even heavy rain can be enough to stop Verstappen from winning this race that easy of course. In the past we were talking about Hamilton's being a wonderful driver under rain.
But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.
Verstappen's on a winning streak this year, mastering even wet tracks. Contrastingly, Hamilton's reign seems to falter, especially when the clouds burst. Is age creeping in on Hamilton's prowess? He's a driving ace, no doubt, but racing with Verstappen could be challenging. With Perez's slip-ups, Verstappen's on a roll. Anticipating a shake-up this season? Looks unlikely. The big question now: Can Mercedes gear up to Red Bull's speed in the next round? But now after entering this new era in the sport Verstappen has started to put on a great show thanks to having the fastest car on the grid also. I would love to see Hamilton getting faster in time and reaching the level to be able to compete with Verstappen again. But I guess we will still need to wait for that to happen for a long time.
June 27, 2023, 04:43:33 AM
Ferrari really has a big potential to get way stronger than this. Just imagine it has reached at least the level it had at the beginning of the previous season. Leclerc was able to fight back against Verstappen in a solid way. But for now Ferrari is dealing with some important issues and this even pushed it behind Mercedes and Aston Martin both. Let's say Ferrari managed to get ahead of both of these teams and even reached Red Bull's level. Then I will still not be confident about anything for Ferrari.
Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
Because this time we will need to see consistency with decent strategies in races. Ferrari was really great in Canada about that but most of the races so far was still a disaster about strategies. Hence I think Ferrari's job is extra difficult compared to Mercedes and Aston Martin.
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