Moving forward with Armory - page 4.

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Quote from: achow101 on February 16, 2016, 05:33:23 PM

Quote from: goatpig on February 16, 2016, 05:30:36 PM

For Linux packages, run this python script:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/dpkgfiles/make_deb_package.py

For Windows, run this .bat:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/cppForSwig/BitcoinArmory_SwigDLL/build_installer_64.bat

For OSX, it's one of these here:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/tree/master/osxbuild

Is there no cross compiling?

There is for RPi. Otherwise, no. The master plan, seen via some PRs up on the old Github, was to introduce Gitian and move towards a Core-like cross-build system once the Py3/Qt5 upgrade occurred.

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Quote from: goatpig on February 16, 2016, 05:30:36 PM

For Linux packages, run this python script:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/dpkgfiles/make_deb_package.py

For Windows, run this .bat:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/cppForSwig/BitcoinArmory_SwigDLL/build_installer_64.bat

For OSX, it's one of these here:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/tree/master/osxbuild

Is there no cross compiling?

goatpig

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For Linux packages, run this python script:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/dpkgfiles/make_deb_package.py

For Windows, run this .bat:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/cppForSwig/BitcoinArmory_SwigDLL/build_installer_64.bat

For OSX, it's one of these here:

https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/tree/master/osxbuild

achow101

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Just writing some code

If you have time, could you write up instructions on the entire release process for building and packaging releases? I am trying to figure out how to do gitian builds with armory but I can't figure out how releases are currently being built and packaged.

unamis76

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Quote from: goatpig on February 16, 2016, 02:44:30 PM

I'll look into getting mod status once I go into the whole release/website dance. For now, I want to focus on coding.

Understandable. Thank you for your effort.

Quote from: goatpig on February 16, 2016, 02:44:30 PM

At the current rate, I could have a testing phase this week.

Wasn't expecting this so soon, interesting

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Quote from: unamis76 on February 15, 2016, 05:25:03 PM

Quote from: goatpig on February 14, 2016, 10:24:37 AM

I don't have moderator power in this sub forum. Afaik no Armory employee ever had.

I suspected that. Anyways, it's you call, fine by me and pretty much anyone else on this thread, we know how to get our source and binaries from... I suggested this after reading about a user having issues with an older version and well... the binaries have to be somewhere visible for people who spend less time here to update. I haven't taken the liberty to create a thread with links and an explanation because it wouldn't be stickied and would probably get lost between all the threads Cheesy

I don't think mods would stick a thread not made by you.

I'll look into getting mod status once I go into the whole release/website dance. For now, I want to focus on coding. At the current rate, I could have a testing phase this week.

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Quote from: goatpig on February 14, 2016, 10:24:37 AM

I don't have moderator power in this sub forum. Afaik no Armory employee ever had.

I suspected that. Anyways, it's you call, fine by me and pretty much anyone else on this thread, we know how to get our source and binaries from... I suggested this after reading about a user having issues with an older version and well... the binaries have to be somewhere visible for people who spend less time here to update. I haven't taken the liberty to create a thread with links and an explanation because it wouldn't be stickied and would probably get lost between all the threads Cheesy

I don't think mods would stick a thread not made by you.

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AGPL3 is still an open source license. You can develop code on top of AGPL3 code, use any license you want that is compatible with AGPL3 (Boost isn't as an example, MIT is), and retain full ownership of your own work.

What you can't do is use AGPL3 licensed code commercially without a license issued from the owner. In the case of Armory, if someone wanted to use my version of Armory for commercial purposes, they need not ask my permission (my additions are MIT), but they will have to seek licensing from ATI (all their code is AGPL3).

ATI can't sue me because I am developing on top of their code base. The MIT license is compatible with AGPL3 after all. ATI can't sue me either if someone was to use my version of Armory commercially. They would have to sue the particular user/business who didn't get a license from them, and I am attaching ATI's AGPL3 text where due in my code (can't blame me for lying about the copyright).

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Quote from: pop9119 on February 15, 2016, 01:55:13 PM

Hi goatpig,

I'm concerned about the ability to just simply change the license for the program. I believe that if you still use parts of the old Armory under the AGPL3 that forces you to release your program under the AGPL3.

I'm not a lawyer but what frightens me is that if the "powers that be" of Armory couldn't/wouldn't allow you to use the 0.94 code, I don't have a lot of faith that they might not allow you to continue to work on the program under a different license.

I want Armory to continue, and I would not like to see your work shutdown/removed/destroyed by the copyright holders. Admittedly if they couldn't get the rights to the program for the community before this shut down, they probably wont easily be able to claim a copyright violation.

I don't know how Armory (the company) is structured, but maybe you can see if they will give you the right to license the program differently that doesn't force this AGPL3 upon you.

Its very saddening to hear from Alan about Armory taking this turn. I know the work that Alan, you, knightDK, (and all of the testers and others idk off the top of my head currently) has been fantastic and hope to keep seeing great things from all including the community.

It's not 100% clear, but....the existing licence allows the original developers / company to retain ownership of what they developed. But, this is the key thing...they gave rights away to their code for no fee.

If someone else builds on top, then what is their loss? What would the law suit say on the IP case? You added your own code, for which you give it away for free; and it hurt my IP, which I also gave away freely?

Seriously. Who is going to spend $100k on chasing a law suit, without any financial loss that they can show?

Here is your homework: A thought experiment. You are heading to your lawyers office, to discuss making a claim about someone using your open source software, to make more open source software....what exactly are you going to say to your lawyer?

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Hi goatpig,

I'm concerned about the ability to just simply change the license for the program. I believe that if you still use parts of the old Armory under the AGPL3 that forces you to release your program under the AGPL3.

I'm not a lawyer but what frightens me is that if the "powers that be" of Armory couldn't/wouldn't allow you to use the 0.94 code, I don't have a lot of faith that they might not allow you to continue to work on the program under a different license.

I want Armory to continue, and I would not like to see your work shutdown/removed/destroyed by the copyright holders. Admittedly if they couldn't get the rights to the program for the community before this shut down, they probably wont easily be able to claim a copyright violation.

I don't know how Armory (the company) is structured, but maybe you can see if they will give you the right to license the program differently that doesn't force this AGPL3 upon you.

Its very saddening to hear from Alan about Armory taking this turn. I know the work that Alan, you, knightDK, (and all of the testers and others idk off the top of my head currently) has been fantastic and hope to keep seeing great things from all including the community.

goatpig

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Quote from: Ente on February 15, 2016, 07:16:43 AM

Huh? Weird!
Talk to Theymos about it. It looks like there is no mod at all, in this sub?

Ente

Indeed, no dedicated mods to this sub. I believe that leaves gmax in charge. Alan asked for moderator status some years ago and it never got to anything, so he gave up. Not sure if I want to go down that path too. I'm perfectly fine with an active member of the community getting mod status in this sub.

Ente

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Huh? Weird!
Talk to Theymos about it. It looks like there is no mod at all, in this sub?

Ente

goatpig

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I don't have moderator power in this sub forum. Afaik no Armory employee ever had.

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Quote from: Ente on February 13, 2016, 03:21:51 PM

I am sure this will be taken care of once Goatpig has a fresh release for us :-)

Ente

Meanwhile users having issues need to install/reinstall/update Armory and the website is unavailable... I still think there should be a temporary thread with the links combined and easily accessible without searching threads

Ente

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I am sure this will be taken care of once Goatpig has a fresh release for us :-)

Ente

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I think there should be a sticky thread on this sub-forum redirecting new (and old) users correctly regarding Armory downloads. Can goatpig's GitHub be considered the place to go if one wants to compile Armory and the Releases page the official place to get compiled binaries from?

The sticky thread could later be updated when we find a new definitive home for Armory. The thread could also link to here and the last thread etotheipi made.

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