Moving from slush to where with 29 Th/s ? NOW: competition pool vs. pool. - page 3.

gnu123

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This is how it looks tonight running since 2015-12-28 13.30

First kano

Then slush

Right now the payout :

slush : 0.01161327 BTC

kano : 0.00048526 BTC

One S7 Antminer on each account.
If i add more miners i will do it on other accounts with other payoutaddresses just to keep this statistic.

Some Minerporn :

Bellow we se one quad KNC saturn built from junk out of a scrapbox, hashes about 500 Gh/s and is very quiet.

It´s name is "The Beast"

Bellow one Antminer S7, not a very good copy, hashes about 4,8 Th/s clocked at 700Mhz, do not like to be overclocked. NOT very quiet.
It´s name is "Nummer Ett" , Number One.

How do i post pictures on this forum directly so there is no need to click them for viewing ?

gnu123

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I did like this :

created 1 new account on slush with a new payoutaddress.

created 1 new account on kano with a new payoutaddress.

Started 1 S7 Antminer on each account 2015-12-28 13:30.

Now i will see what happends when the day goes by.

Payouts so far :

Slush : 0.0 BTC

Kano : 0.00048526 BTC

Both miners are hashing about 4,8 TH/s so this will be an intresting competition to follow up.
Both miners live in the same serverroom and they eat swedish high quality electricity.

But as you know, greed is a powerful thing..... So today i created another account on kano and put another S7 in work there becouse i have a feeling that kano will produce better. Maybe im wrong, time will tell. I will not be the first person in history making bad decissions couse of greed. ;-)

But the payout is not the most important, what disturbs me most is that i dont understand, and can not change the strange luck on slush with about 82% luck over a very long time. It just doesnt feel right.

Then we will se how this competition goes on, I guess that slush will win the first week, but after 2 weeks kano will lead the race. If im wrong, atleast i have tried and maybe learned a bit about the PPLNS payout system, i have read a little bit about it, but i dont understand so much, yet. My English is not the best...

kano

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That doesn't affect the orphan shares or even what you are paid.

The shares you see at that difficulty aren't shares at all, simply information to see how your miner is performing.

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Quote from: gnu123 on December 26, 2015, 10:33:14 AM

Have been hobby-mining on Slush, Bitminter and BTC-guild in periods since 2012.
[...]
I´m no expert, but bad luck for a month ?
Thinking about changing pool but to where ?

Tryout p2pool.611.to offering a mining efficiency of more than 100% (http://p2pool.co/):

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://p2pool.611.to:9332
Username: YourBitCoinAddress/6000+1024
Password: xxx (or whatever you like)

Payouts of P2Pool are directly into your Bitcoin wallet.

To optimize the revenue you may tryout to modify the difficulty factor after YourBitCoinAddress username which fits best to your miners, like i.e. YourBitCoinAddress/8000+2048. As a rule of thumb use lower difficulty factors for slow miners and higher difficulty factors for heavy miners.
If you set the difficulty factor too high for slow miners, your miners will probably produce too many orphans (like I just tried it out Roll Eyes

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Meuh6879

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3 months is a good space to judge about the luck.

gnu123

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Quote from: kano on December 28, 2015, 06:04:14 PM

Quote from: gnu123 on December 28, 2015, 11:35:20 AM

Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.

If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

Well actually there's another issue to consider there also.

Luck is based on blocks found, not time.

So a pool with 80% bad luck for a month that found 200 blocks, is the same bad luck as a smaller pool 1/10 the size with 80% bad luck for 10 months that took 10 months to find 200 blocks.

Yeah it's actually all about the CDF[Erl] that I show on my site.
That number is how you compare pools since every pool is a different size ...
and big pools having bad luck for a long period of time is (as I said) the same chance as a small pool having that bad luck for WAY longer.

I understand, and having bad luck for 10 months would be really strange :-)

I appreciate that You take the time to be active here on the forum and answer questions !

And now i´m gonna log in to the pool and see if something has happened over the day.

kano

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Quote from: gnu123 on December 28, 2015, 11:35:20 AM

Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.

If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

Well actually there's another issue to consider there also.

Luck is based on blocks found, not time.

So a pool with 80% bad luck for a month that found 200 blocks, is the same bad luck as a smaller pool 1/10 the size with 80% bad luck for 10 months that took 10 months to find 200 blocks.

Yeah it's actually all about the CDF[Erl] that I show on my site.
That number is how you compare pools since every pool is a different size ...
and big pools having bad luck for a long period of time is (as I said) the same chance as a small pool having that bad luck for WAY longer.

Meuh6879

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on December 28, 2015, 09:59:11 AM

Luck most certainly can and will change that amount. Just like good luck means you'll make more than expectations, bad luck means the opposite.

pool are not so stupid ... they have restriction for a member when it switch.
like P2Pool, too.

gnu123

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Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.

If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

jonnybravo0311

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Mine at Jonny's Pool

Luck most certainly can and will change that amount. Just like good luck means you'll make more than expectations, bad luck means the opposite.

Meuh6879

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With 29 TH/s, you have 4.682 BTC per month now ( https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty top-right ).
Luck can accelerate payment ... BUT NOT CHANGE this amount of reward.

Sorry.

gnu123

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Mmmm ok, just of interest why ?

Slush pool have been very good over the years, as bitminter and BTC-guild that was my favourite.
But now it feeels like the right time to try something new.

Cant say i like poolhopping, but 3 pools over 5 years is all i have been using.

Mitak

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I would leave my gear pointed at slush

gnu123

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Quote from: -ck on December 27, 2015, 06:35:53 AM

Quote from: gnu123 on December 27, 2015, 06:29:09 AM

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

Just choose a workername with your mining software, ckpool auto-adds any workers it sees.

Thnx !

I just read it "Your worker name can be whatever you choose and will be created when your miner connects to the pool.
Registered username or Bitcoin address, followed by a dot '.' or an underscore '_', followed by a worker name."

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: gnu123 on December 27, 2015, 06:29:09 AM

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

Just choose a workername with your mining software, ckpool auto-adds any workers it sees.

gnu123

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cryptodonkey on the pool.

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

kano

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Quote from: gnu123 on December 26, 2015, 10:33:14 AM

...
Slush have a very good interface for monitoring miners, both ... CKpool seems to have a much more simple ( any ? ) GUI for monitoring ?
...

The block statistics, that anyone can see, are the best available - specifically the stats at the top of the page.

You need an account and to login to see the worker stats, pool stats, graphs, etc (as you also need on slush to do the same ...)

There's apps for monitoring kano.is that others have written quite a while ago, one is listed in the first post just before the old competitions:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kanopool-kanois-lowest-09-fee-since-2014-worldwide-2432-blocks-789369

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: gnu123 on December 26, 2015, 10:33:14 AM

How is CKpool ? Have been checking out their webpages but im not sure in which threshold of BTC a payout is made or if it is possible to change setting.

With kano ckpool you get paid out with every block solved once the block matures so there is no threshold setting.

gnu123

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Thnx for the input !

Without changin from the topiuc to much, this is the stats from slush right now :

37%
Day

81%
Week

80%
Month

Whats going on ? Is it even possible that many blocks the last days take 12h or more to finnish ?

Can it be some kind of attack on the stratum protocol ? The pool is doing something it should not ?

I remember some years ago when slush pool had some really bad connection problems, i think it was pingflood or synflood attack or something like that.
After one day or so i got an e-mail from slush pool saying i was one of the biggest miners so i got a new address and port for connecting my miners, the smaller miners i guess they got nothing.

After that im not so sure of what to think, the pool owner did what got him the most cash out of the situation and left the smaller miners out in the cold, for me it was good but i really didnt like the feeling.

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'The right to privacy matters'

you could try mmpool.org

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