Topic: MrCryptHodl - CHECK YOUR FUNDING! (Read 6088 times)

Unless I misread, in actuality this issue appears to have stemmed from a duplicate public address (1xBTC1E3uJ36vXFBr39MDJKz5tbi9qQcb) and not the private keys themselves as both BGC036 (1xBTCA2jLuX1qgKLH9vytw2ebthDf6xFq) & BGC051 (1xBTC1E3uJ36vXFBr39MDJKz5tbi9qQcb) did indeed have separate private keys that corresponded with the expected, different public addresses- verified by peeling and checking against the address list.  It seems if the owner of BOC036 would have checked the public address against the address list provided by the maker, they would have seen the duplicate address with BOC051 and could have reached out to the maker to remedy.  The maker could have then either applied the hologram with the correct address or issue a new chip.  Let me know if I missed the mark in understanding or confused something.

Following up on this post...

I received a picture of the public address hologram and confirmed the private key for chip BGC051

With this information, it has been determined that the key pairs were swapped and the one chip never was funded, but should have been.

All good man, it definitely helps to understand how it works once you wrap your mind around it. I think the more people who use it effectively, the better it should work, in theory at least. It's definitely not perfect though... humans are involved, gullibility exists, and charismatic con artists know how to trick people, I should know since I was tricked myself once.   You and I are fortunate enough to have been here since 2014, 2013, respectively, and have sort of grown up with it, it's hard for me to imagine what I'd think of it if joining this forum today for the first time, it's definitely unique.

@ibminer - Thanks for doing this here - many collectibles users (through no fault of their own really) just don't understand the difference between lists and feedbacks, so I appreciate it.

I've tried to help many people here on DT1/2 (some don't even know it?) and try to educate as well, but some just don't want to even deal with the details unfortunately....

Cheers, appreciate it again, we def don't need scammers on DT1 or 2.

Yep, trust but verify.  When received, I typically check coin addresses again the public lists provided to see if any discrepancies.  If/when there are, I have followed up with the coin makers to see if it's me or them.  When BGC036 was received, the address should have been checked again public list which would have shown discrepancies and then follow up with maker could have occurred in order to rectify- doesn't appear this happened.

No problem!  I think he still has a chance to make things right with unfunded coins, I'm not sure what to say about mixing keys and addresses, that seems like pure negligence and hopefully isolated. Funding the unfunded coins would be a good first step to moving forward and may show he actually cares, although I can't say I have any real confidence at this point based on his reaction and subsequent actions, but I'd be happy if he proved me wrong. I don't think we've seen any clear evidence of keeping keys or sweeping yet though.


Your negative feedback definitely shows since you are on DefaultTrust, and nobody has excluded you (except MrCryptHodl himself, which he appears to have done last March, but it isn't as relevant at this point because he's not on DT himself anymore). It gets a little confusing because DefaultTrust is like a dynamic web of trust based on user votes (votes done through inclusions/exclusions from other users trust lists). To summarize, those votes essentially pick users who will have sent feedback appear as "trusted" on any users that include "DefaultTrust" in their list, which every user starts off with by default, and also this votes to include those users trust lists, and who they have in their trust lists, how deep the web goes is the purpose of the "depth" setting on the trust settings page, which by default goes 2 levels deep.

I'm not sure I'm doing a great job explaining this clearly, but LoyceV's guide explains it in much greater detail. Feel free to PM if you need any help with it, you would just need to delete him off your list at the trust settings page assuming you do not agree with his judgement on his feedbacks and/or his trust list inclusions/exclusions, I don't want to derail this thread too much.

Yeah, you're probably right... It just occurred to me when I wrote that, but this is basically risk of all physical bitcoin coins.

I don’t remember adding 1HodlUrFundZ to my trust list but I have corrected this error.  Apologies… I thought my negative trust would show whatever circlejerk list he was on 🤷🏻‍♂️

Thanks for the explanation! I need to remove cryptohodl from my trust list as well.

Although I don’t believe (I hope he didn’t!) he kept keys, his failure to address funding issues makes me not trust him. Too bad cuz he made some great items.  Still personally hodling my 1hodlclub items - all funded that should be and funds haven’t moved. Hopefully switched keys was an isolated incident but he should still pay the funding that is owed. Guess we will see if he revives his brand and puts in the work to make things right… or chooses not to

nutildah is saying Yoda has MrCryptHodl included in his personal trust list, which acts as a vote to put MrCryptHodl in "DefaultTrust" (level 2, aka DT2), this would indicate Yoda trusts MrCryptHodl's judgement on feedback, and/or his judgement on who MrCryptHodl has included (or excluded) from his trust list.

He is suggesting that if someone has lost trust for MrCryptHodl, and does not consider his feedback trustworthy, and/or if they disapprove of the trust list that MrCryptHodl has setup himself, then they should remove MrCryptHodl from their personal trust list and/or specifically exclude him.

Feedback & trust lists are 2 different things, LoyceV's guide here explains it in detail, but essentially:

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I've never had MrCryptHodl in my trust list although did give negative feedback in September when I saw this thread taking a turn for the worse. Given the circumstances and the way MrCryptHodl has dealt with his accusers, and after reviewing MrCryptHodl's personal trust list (where he has himself excluded people like owlcatz, Yoda, ChiBitCTy, and anonymousminer), I personally do not trust his judgement, so I've excluded him from my trust list and geophphreigh has also recently excluded him, so MrCryptHodl is no longer in the DefaultTrust network at this point.


edit: fixed image

What are you even saying? Add Yoda to untrusted feedback so it doesn’t hit your stats??

Answered below - thanks!

Just wanted to bring this to your attention, as this guy is now on DT2:



Might want to exclude him from your trust list, if you feel its appropriate (give your negative on him, seems like you do).

Anyone else who is including him may want to reconsider -- not trying to tell you guys what to do, just providing a reminder that this guy is still included by a number of DT members, and their opinions may have changed in light of the last year's events.

I think the conclusion in the edit may be a bit premature without more examples instead of just one.  I mean something happened similar with Smoothie involving more than 1 coin and there's no public address list to check against that:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011139.0;all

Wow... a true Schroedinger's coin - it's both funded/unfunded until you check...

This is what am trying to tell you all.
Private key mismatch. 
So if someone swep their coins, they might also swept someone coins. Double funding Private  key.
So so many mistake were done.
I still say that it's not a scam type, It mostly shady work , rushing. 

ok, so finally got the key that was underneath the BGC036 chip...

The public address that is printed on the BGC036 chip "1xBTC1E3uJ" is actually listed as the public address for BGC051 chip:
https://collectible.money/search?q=1xBTC1E3uJ36vXFBr39MDJKz5tbi9qQcb
https://mempool.space/address/1xBTC1E3uJ36vXFBr39MDJKz5tbi9qQcb

So this key got swept when the other collector redeemed the batch of chips on December 25 2024

Key/address mix-up

Then if we check the the address that is associated to the key underneath, it gives:
"1xBTCA2jLuX1qgKLH9vytw2ebthDf6xFq"
https://collectible.money/search?q=1xBTCA2jLuX1qgKLH9vytw2ebthDf6xFq
https://mempool.space/address/1xBTCA2jLuX1qgKLH9vytw2ebthDf6xFq

This address never got funded

Piece of Advise to all  MrCryptHodl HOLDERS.

 Do not under any circumstances stake any btc on ( BTCitcoin Attack - A Cryptocurrency story BOok) or any other item from MrCryptHodl . mistake on private key were done( mismatch public address with PK)  .  I sill have some others item from  MrCryptHodl  still  intact. Intentionally or not intentionally who knows. HAppy N Y  Case close.

I have messaged him multiple times on X about my item and lack of proper funding, crickets. I no longer own his items, nor will be purchasing any more in the future.

Well my (unloaded, that's why I don't really care) golden Silk Road ingot should have had an adress beginning with 1SiLK according to the address list, but when it finally came (almost a year later that originally expected) it had 1HoDL address...
So let's just say meticulous attention to detail was occasionally somewhat lacking in the works of MrCryptHodl ;-)

EDIT: Yep, what Mopar said...