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July 07, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
@car1999

OK, I made a weak try to get 9 GPUs running in Win7 (using 2 M.2 to PCIe converters on ASUS Prime Z270A) and it didn't work, but the method I tried wouldn't have gotten 8 to work, so I'll probably need to revisit a little more to be sure.

I then moved one of the M.2 converters to the MSI Z170A Gaming M5 to get an 8th GPU there, but the BIOS wouldn't recognize anything on either of the M.2 slots.  I suppose the converter could be bad since it didn't work in either system.

Anything special you needed to do to get the M.2 to PCIe converter to work on the Gaming M5?  What BIOS version are you using and what are your BIOS settings for PCI and monitor?

my bios is the latest version, i enabled 4g decoding, the gen1,gen2 setting is auto,  disable integreted video card, plug hdmi monitor  to the first Pcie 16x, m.2 closest to CPU works, the other m.2 doesn't work. I haven't try  Windows, I use nvOC, a customized linux, can be found in this forum.
now 8 cards works very stable, 7 1050ti and 1 1060.
btw, CPU is g3900.
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July 07, 2017, 03:47:14 PM
all i can confirm is the processor should be Skylake  ,, not Kapylake

as example   g3900  4400 , so on
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July 07, 2017, 02:26:43 PM
I just got same motherboard and all I get are error 00 no boot with 4 different brand new gaming m5 boards. Using a i3-6100t so I don't now if this board has compatibility issues with that cpu. I think I will get asus z270a instead.
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July 07, 2017, 01:39:25 PM
Uifi is the most important option .
Updating the bios
Enable 4g encoding
All pcie turn to gen2

Every thing will work
 


I did installed & set up 2 of this board & working great with 6 cards each .  & did test the sevdnth card & worked too.
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July 07, 2017, 12:49:18 PM
So I have this board and had been having problems with anymore than 4 GPU's. But I now have it running with 6 NV GPU's with the IGD as the display output.

I'm running with Kabylake i3-7300 so having that is not a problem and you don't need to be looking at Skylake parts. I do have a Skylake G3900 which actually had more issues.

The main thing is to set all your settings in BIOS first and then install Windows 10, I had an old image of Windows 10 I was using that just would not boot when you enabled 'Above 4G Decoding'.

I didn't need to change much in BIOS using latest 7977v1E BIOS.

1. Above 4G Decoding 'Enabled'
2. Win 8.1/10 set to 'Enabled'
3. UEFI only

Hopefully this helps, and clears up issues for some or at least provides some hope. Smiley




Its on MSI Z170A GAMING M5 s1151 ?
Because i try almost everything Expect instal Windows only on UEFI settings but it will help ?
My succes was when i turn on once 5 GPU but with only 0 Mhm and sometimes it was 2 Mhm Cheesy :/
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July 04, 2017, 03:34:34 AM
@car1999

OK, I made a weak try to get 9 GPUs running in Win7 (using 2 M.2 to PCIe converters on ASUS Prime Z270A) and it didn't work, but the method I tried wouldn't have gotten 8 to work, so I'll probably need to revisit a little more to be sure.

I then moved one of the M.2 converters to the MSI Z170A Gaming M5 to get an 8th GPU there, but the BIOS wouldn't recognize anything on either of the M.2 slots.  I suppose the converter could be bad since it didn't work in either system.

Anything special you needed to do to get the M.2 to PCIe converter to work on the Gaming M5?  What BIOS version are you using and what are your BIOS settings for PCI and monitor?
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July 03, 2017, 10:26:38 PM
I didn't have a 7th riser available (getting more tomorrow), so I plugged a 7th card directly into the last PCIe slot and it recognized it, but ran into an issue with X-server.  However, I was able to use a tty terminal and that worked fine and miner recognized all 7 cards.  Using a riser for the 7th card might fix that issue.  If not, I might just need to try plugging monitor into one of the cards.  I tried plugging it into the 7th card, but that didn't work.

I have some M.2 to PCIe converters coming this week, so I'll try adding an 8th and 9th card and see if that works.  In theory, 9 cards should work in Linux, but I'll find out soon if this motherboard has any problems with that many.

Man, have you tried 9 cards? My test result is that only 1st m2 slot works, the 2nd m2 slot doesn't work. Not sure if my slot is broken or the mobo doesn't support 9 cards. Now my rigs has 7x1050ti and 1x1060 with nvOC linux system, works well and very stable.

I got 8 cards working in Windows 7.  That was an adventure.  You have to manually update the registry to pull that one off.  Windows 10 doesn't have that issue.  I haven't tried 9 cards in Win7, but I've heard it's not possible.

On the Linux side (XUbuntu 16.04), I've been having some issues with the X server configuration.  I currently have 7 cards running well there and have been focusing on overclocking and undervolting the nvidia cards and I think I've got a good, stable script working now.  I only have two M.2 converters and installed them both in my Win7 rig (was the only working rig I had at the time, so why not?

Here are the next things on my list to test (order subject to change):
  • Add 9th card to Win7 rig and see if the rumors are true that 9 won't work.  My registry edits to get 8 cards working make me wonder if those same edits will also get 9 to work.
  • Add 8th and 9th card to Linux rig and see if the motherboard supports that.  I recall something about the 2nd M.2 on some motherboards not supporting PCIe and only support storage and/or memory.
  • Convert Win7 rig to Linux if it will give the ability to run 9 cards.

FYI...that Win7 rig is on an ASUS Prime Z270A mb (7 PCIe slots and 2 M.2 slots just like the MSI).  The Linux rig has the MSI Z170A Gaming M5 mb.  Obviously, I might have different results with the second M.2 slot on these rigs.  If one or both of these boards allow me utilize both M.2 slots, then I'll order more, but I have what I need to do the appropriate testing.
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July 01, 2017, 07:10:19 AM
I can confirm that the Intel Celeron G3950 Processor with MSI Z170A Gaming M5 will Mine ETH with 6 RX480 8 Gigs

I have this exact same motherboard and I cant get it to work no matter what.  What BIOS version are you using?

Use the latest BIOS version which was released on 2017.05, just enable 4G decoding, other changes in BIOS are unnecessary, 8 cards run. Looking for a way to run 9 cards with 2 M.2 slots.
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July 01, 2017, 07:05:54 AM

Well, I got a Skylake Celeron (G3900) CPU running on this Gaming M5 board and no change.  Still boots to a blank screen whenever I enable 4G/crypto option. No cards installed.  What did people do to get this to work?

Try following steps in BIOS:

1. Set PEG0/1 to AUTO
2. Enable above 4G enconding
3. PCI Latency timer 64
4. Initiate Graphic Adapter set to IGD with 64 memory (and connect the monitor to internal HDMI port if not done anyway already!)
5. Win 8.1/10 set to DISABLED
6. Win 7 set to DISABLED
7. Set UEFI only

It's important that you install Win10 in UEFI mode - if you have any issue that you cannot install Win10 on empty hard disk after you configured UEFI only proceed with following steps during Win10 setup.

At the partition screen of Win10 Setup press Shift + F10 to get a command prompt
Type this (hit enter after each)

diskpart
list disk
(will show you a list of attached disks, the one you want to install to should be 0)
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
exit

then refresh the partition list and install Win10 on the empty disk.

If you have your monitor connected to the internal GPU instead of one of the mining GPUs you have the advantage that even the 1st GPU can mine at full speed as it doesn't have to waste some performance for Win10 graphics rendering Wink

Thanks.  I actually got it working just with steps 1 and 4.  I already had all the others set except for 3 which I didn't do and doesn't seem to be necessary.  I'm using Linux in UEFI mode.  6 cards worked fine.

I didn't have a 7th riser available (getting more tomorrow), so I plugged a 7th card directly into the last PCIe slot and it recognized it, but ran into an issue with X-server.  However, I was able to use a tty terminal and that worked fine and miner recognized all 7 cards.  Using a riser for the 7th card might fix that issue.  If not, I might just need to try plugging monitor into one of the cards.  I tried plugging it into the 7th card, but that didn't work.

I have some M.2 to PCIe converters coming this week, so I'll try adding an 8th and 9th card and see if that works.  In theory, 9 cards should work in Linux, but I'll find out soon if this motherboard has any problems with that many.

Man, have you tried 9 cards? My test result is that only 1st m2 slot works, the 2nd m2 slot doesn't work. Not sure if my slot is broken or the mobo doesn't support 9 cards. Now my rigs has 7x1050ti and 1x1060 with nvOC linux system, works well and very stable.
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July 01, 2017, 01:17:31 AM
So I have this board and had been having problems with anymore than 4 GPU's. But I now have it running with 6 NV GPU's with the IGD as the display output.

I'm running with Kabylake i3-7300 so having that is not a problem and you don't need to be looking at Skylake parts. I do have a Skylake G3900 which actually had more issues.

The main thing is to set all your settings in BIOS first and then install Windows 10, I had an old image of Windows 10 I was using that just would not boot when you enabled 'Above 4G Decoding'.

I didn't need to change much in BIOS using latest 7977v1E BIOS.

1. Above 4G Decoding 'Enabled'
2. Win 8.1/10 set to 'Enabled'
3. UEFI only

Hopefully this helps, and clears up issues for some or at least provides some hope. Smiley

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June 30, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
I can confirm that the Intel Celeron G3950 Processor with MSI Z170A Gaming M5 will Mine ETH with 6 RX480 8 Gigs

I have this exact same motherboard and I cant get it to work no matter what.  What BIOS version are you using?
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June 30, 2017, 11:58:30 AM
msi z170A gaming m5 has 7 pcie and 2 m.2 slots.
unfortunately, only 1st m.2 slot works with m.2 to pcie adapter, so the mobo supports max 8 GPUs.

asus prime z270-A supports 9 cards, I saw a video in youtube.
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June 29, 2017, 04:26:33 AM

Well, I got a Skylake Celeron (G3900) CPU running on this Gaming M5 board and no change.  Still boots to a blank screen whenever I enable 4G/crypto option. No cards installed.  What did people do to get this to work?

Try following steps in BIOS:

1. Set PEG0/1 to AUTO
2. Enable above 4G enconding
3. PCI Latency timer 64
4. Initiate Graphic Adapter set to IGD with 64 memory (and connect the monitor to internal HDMI port if not done anyway already!)
5. Win 8.1/10 set to DISABLED
6. Win 7 set to DISABLED
7. Set UEFI only

It's important that you install Win10 in UEFI mode - if you have any issue that you cannot install Win10 on empty hard disk after you configured UEFI only proceed with following steps during Win10 setup.

At the partition screen of Win10 Setup press Shift + F10 to get a command prompt
Type this (hit enter after each)

diskpart
list disk
(will show you a list of attached disks, the one you want to install to should be 0)
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
exit

then refresh the partition list and install Win10 on the empty disk.

If you have your monitor connected to the internal GPU instead of one of the mining GPUs you have the advantage that even the 1st GPU can mine at full speed as it doesn't have to waste some performance for Win10 graphics rendering Wink

Thanks.  I actually got it working just with steps 1 and 4.  I already had all the others set except for 3 which I didn't do and doesn't seem to be necessary.  I'm using Linux in UEFI mode.  6 cards worked fine.

I didn't have a 7th riser available (getting more tomorrow), so I plugged a 7th card directly into the last PCIe slot and it recognized it, but ran into an issue with X-server.  However, I was able to use a tty terminal and that worked fine and miner recognized all 7 cards.  Using a riser for the 7th card might fix that issue.  If not, I might just need to try plugging monitor into one of the cards.  I tried plugging it into the 7th card, but that didn't work.

I have some M.2 to PCIe converters coming this week, so I'll try adding an 8th and 9th card and see if that works.  In theory, 9 cards should work in Linux, but I'll find out soon if this motherboard has any problems with that many.
I have 9 cards, but still waiting for my m.2 to pcie adapters, hopeful 9 cards work well.
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June 29, 2017, 03:22:09 AM

Well, I got a Skylake Celeron (G3900) CPU running on this Gaming M5 board and no change.  Still boots to a blank screen whenever I enable 4G/crypto option. No cards installed.  What did people do to get this to work?

Try following steps in BIOS:

1. Set PEG0/1 to AUTO
2. Enable above 4G enconding
3. PCI Latency timer 64
4. Initiate Graphic Adapter set to IGD with 64 memory (and connect the monitor to internal HDMI port if not done anyway already!)
5. Win 8.1/10 set to DISABLED
6. Win 7 set to DISABLED
7. Set UEFI only

It's important that you install Win10 in UEFI mode - if you have any issue that you cannot install Win10 on empty hard disk after you configured UEFI only proceed with following steps during Win10 setup.

At the partition screen of Win10 Setup press Shift + F10 to get a command prompt
Type this (hit enter after each)

diskpart
list disk
(will show you a list of attached disks, the one you want to install to should be 0)
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
exit

then refresh the partition list and install Win10 on the empty disk.

If you have your monitor connected to the internal GPU instead of one of the mining GPUs you have the advantage that even the 1st GPU can mine at full speed as it doesn't have to waste some performance for Win10 graphics rendering Wink

Thanks.  I actually got it working just with steps 1 and 4.  I already had all the others set except for 3 which I didn't do and doesn't seem to be necessary.  I'm using Linux in UEFI mode.  6 cards worked fine.

I didn't have a 7th riser available (getting more tomorrow), so I plugged a 7th card directly into the last PCIe slot and it recognized it, but ran into an issue with X-server.  However, I was able to use a tty terminal and that worked fine and miner recognized all 7 cards.  Using a riser for the 7th card might fix that issue.  If not, I might just need to try plugging monitor into one of the cards.  I tried plugging it into the 7th card, but that didn't work.

I have some M.2 to PCIe converters coming this week, so I'll try adding an 8th and 9th card and see if that works.  In theory, 9 cards should work in Linux, but I'll find out soon if this motherboard has any problems with that many.
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June 29, 2017, 01:47:48 AM

Well, I got a Skylake Celeron (G3900) CPU running on this Gaming M5 board and no change.  Still boots to a blank screen whenever I enable 4G/crypto option. No cards installed.  What did people do to get this to work?

Try following steps in BIOS:

1. Set PEG0/1 to AUTO
2. Enable above 4G enconding
3. PCI Latency timer 64
4. Initiate Graphic Adapter set to IGD with 64 memory (and connect the monitor to internal HDMI port if not done anyway already!)
5. Win 8.1/10 set to DISABLED
6. Win 7 set to DISABLED
7. Set UEFI only

It's important that you install Win10 in UEFI mode - if you have any issue that you cannot install Win10 on empty hard disk after you configured UEFI only proceed with following steps during Win10 setup.

At the partition screen of Win10 Setup press Shift + F10 to get a command prompt
Type this (hit enter after each)

diskpart
list disk
(will show you a list of attached disks, the one you want to install to should be 0)
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
exit

then refresh the partition list and install Win10 on the empty disk.

If you have your monitor connected to the internal GPU instead of one of the mining GPUs you have the advantage that even the 1st GPU can mine at full speed as it doesn't have to waste some performance for Win10 graphics rendering Wink
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June 29, 2017, 01:36:00 AM
Hi, I would like to say that is not true about CPU.
I have Intel Celeron G3930 - it's Kaby Lake and I run on 7gpus (rx480-8g).

Hey can you confirm you got this working on this board (gaming m5) with Celeron G3930?

I have this CPU and I have just had a different board cancelled on me so was thinking about this as a replacement, but a lot of people seem to have trouble with it especially with Kabylake processors.

Thanks in advance!
Chris

I cant confirm it will be working on gaming m5 mobo, i have MSI Z170A GAMING PRO CARBON and second mobo is ASUS PRIME Z270-P where this CPU working fine.

I have gaming M5 mb and G3930 won't boot with the crypto currency option enabled. Just get a blank screen. I've tried the latest two BIOS versions (1E and 1D). It sounds like I'll need to get a Skylake for this mb and use that G3930 in a different mb.

Well, I got a Skylake Celeron (G3900) CPU running on this Gaming M5 board and no change.  Still boots to a blank screen whenever I enable 4G/crypto option. No cards installed.  What did people do to get this to work?
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June 28, 2017, 02:27:50 AM
Hi everyone, newbie here Smiley I have a strange symptom with my new build. Starting with only one card, on the MSI Z170 gaming M5 mother board with a skylake i5-6400, I can not get the AMD RX 480 video card to work (no display, not detected, not showing in system manager, as if it does not exist at all) on the primary PCI-E 16X slot, it some how works if I place it in the secondary PCI-E 16X slot (only runs at 8X) or the third one (only runs at 4X).
On the other hand, with another nvidia GTX 1060 3GB video card, it works fine on the primary PCI-E 16X slot.
I have already updated to the latest 1E BIOS and driver for windows 10 64bit. Played around with all the tweaks mentioned in this thread, including changing PCIE Gen 1/2/3/auto, enable/disable 4G, enable/disable fast boot,  enable/disable windows 10/8.1 WHQL, enable/disable IGD/PED. Has anyone seen any similar symptom like this too? Any advice will be appreciated.
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June 25, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
Why disable internal GPU - shouldn't be an issue to use it.

Did you try to change PCI Latency Timer to 64?
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June 25, 2017, 11:22:02 AM
I posted this in another forum and I wanted to see if anyone has any tips on assisting with my first rig...

I'm having an issue with the same board and Geforce 1070 GTX GPU combination...I can't get any of the GPU's to show up without having them plugged directly into the board. They're not under Device Manager; rather, they're a generic System Device.

I updated the BIOS to the latest version 1.7, performed a clean installation of Windows 10 in UEFI, as well as followed the instructions above regarding 4G encoding and setting PEG0 and PEG1 to Gen1. I've also made sure that I am using HDMI and NOT the onboard Intel GPU.

After the clean install, I wanted to see if I could directly plug them in and Windows recognized two. I couldn't get past two, even with the USB-powered risers. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! I have been scouring the net for days without any progress...

MSI Z170A
Intel i3-6100T processor @ 3.2GHz
8GB Crucial DDR4
6x PCI-E1X TO 16X USB Risers
6x EVGA Nvidia GeForce 1070 GTX FTW GPU
1500W Enermax MaxREVO PSU

I used DDU to remove the onboard Intel graphics, however, that didn't work either.
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June 22, 2017, 01:58:37 PM
msi z170a gaming m5 has 7pcie and 1 m.2 slot, is there any body use the m.2 slot to create A 8 card rig?
when I get two more cards next week I am going to try. I have the m.2 adapter and it works fine
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