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Topic: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] - page 206. (Read 908613 times)

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Bitgoblin
January 22, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Btc just went through a huge growth, and Gox received at the very least $20 million in deposits, their order books went from $20m to $40m.
That's what their own platform states, maybe, but how can you know they aren't operating as fractional reserve, or that they might fill the order book with bogus data?
I look with my eyes and see that first USD withdraws delay, after a few months EUR, after a few more months BTC, finally JPY too... I can safely say they are not reliable and they should not be trusted with your money, hence you shouldn't trust either what they state.
They can state they own 10 gazillion dollars for all I care: as long as they aren't able to actually send it, they are worth exactly 0 to me (and to any sane person).
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January 22, 2014, 08:34:49 AM
Has anyone received USD from them since mid November? I haven't Sad

That's pretty much the same time I received my last USD withdrawal (at 5% fee). Haven't tried since..
How long did this particular withdrawal take?
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 08:24:36 AM
i really don't know what is happening at Gox
They're running out of money?
Are people so blind to keep trusting them?
Big red flags mean nothing to you?


How can they run out of money?

Btc just went through a huge growth, and Gox received at the very least $20 million in deposits, their order books went from $20m to $40m.
And i'm not talking of the killing profits they made on trading fees, nor Gox/Mark personal btc reserve in the thousands!

I'm not trusting them but i just can't see how could they go bankrupt!
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Bitgoblin
January 22, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
i really don't know what is happening at Gox
They're running out of money?
Are people so blind to keep trusting them?
Big red flags mean nothing to you?
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January 22, 2014, 07:28:48 AM
Thank you. So i suppose that i have to wait until the 27th January at least. i really don't know what is happening at Gox
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January 22, 2014, 07:01:25 AM
ok so my first withdrawal was processed in yen to my japanese account from the 7th january on the 22nd january. still 2 more outstanding on later dates but at least its paying out still. panic over. 2/3 week delay estimates are correct. goodluck
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January 22, 2014, 06:24:53 AM
i have a japanese bank account and withdrew on the 7th, 11th and 15th january, all 100,000 yen, all confirmed but nothing. been keeping an eye on this thread and now starting to get worried with others adding to it in the same boat. stopped believing it has anything to do with the holiday period now. if anybody receives their yen please repost to give the rest of us hope. thanks

i have a japanese bank account too and withdrew on the 12th and 14th january, all confirmed but nothing.
I even wrote them in english and japanese some days ago, but no answer yet!!
 Undecided
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January 22, 2014, 06:21:46 AM
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There are a host of other factors involved here. Americans sending in more than $2000 into a US bank account have a SAR report done by their bank. Its mandatory and the bank isn't allowed to tell you they did it, but they DO, gentlemen.

I thought it was USD $10,000 that triggered the SAR report.

From wikipedia:

FinCEN requires a SAR to be filed by a financial institution when the financial institution suspects insider abuse by an employee; violations of law aggregating over $5,000 where a subject can be identified;[clarification needed] violations of law aggregating over $25,000 regardless of a potential subject; transactions aggregating $5,000 or more that involve potential money laundering or violations of the Bank Secrecy Act; computer intrusion; or when a financial institution knows that a customer is operating as an unlicensed money services business.

My guess is the US government sees anything involving BitCoin as 'potential money laundering'.

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January 22, 2014, 03:26:16 AM
Has anyone received USD from them since mid November? I haven't Sad

That's pretty much the same time I received my last USD withdrawal (at 5% fee). Haven't tried since..
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January 21, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
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Its something that would have to be explained over a beer to be believed Smiley.


Would like to hear that story. I can't imagine what other meaning could be taken from that.

I drew the short straw on the best names to move to Japan with competition.  I seem to inspire a giggle to most I'm introduced. Shocked

Tough break. Or totally epic Cheesy

I knew a guy years ago who didn't last so long in Japan. His name was 'Gary' so I think he's got you beat.
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January 21, 2014, 05:27:26 PM
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Its something that would have to be explained over a beer to be believed Smiley.


Would like to hear that story. I can't imagine what other meaning could be taken from that.
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January 21, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
Thanks for the info guys.

From what I've been reading is it fair to say generally SEPA transfers work within the 3-4 week time band on the website? (Although this is unacceptably slow anyway!)
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January 21, 2014, 03:26:36 PM
i have a japanese bank account and withdrew on the 7th, 11th and 15th january, all 100,000 yen, all confirmed but nothing. been keeping an eye on this thread and now starting to get worried with others adding to it in the same boat. stopped believing it has anything to do with the holiday period now. if anybody receives their yen please repost to give the rest of us hope. thanks
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January 21, 2014, 02:37:48 PM
Has anyone tried the domestic Polish Zloty bank withdrawal route for MtGox? Does that work any better than SEPA?
Thanks!
It seems that this route is closed. When one tries to use PLN withdrawal option, a message appears that this has been replaced with the new "Withdrawal Center". Then I have defined my PLN account in a Polish bank, and got a message saying that it will be activated soon. After a week I've filled a support ticket asking why it is not yet active. I've got a response that my MtGox account is verified. Sure, rrrright, it has been verified a month ago... Then I've created another ticket, with link to the previous one, with more precise problem description. After a few days I've got a response, my bank account can't be activated in the Withdrawal Center, because I have used ambigious letter "ł" in account details. Cool, so I've defined the same account again, replacing "ł" with "l". Two weeks more and it is still inactive. Maybe I should send another ticket...

Anyway when defining an account in the "Withdrawal Center" there is nothing special for PLN withdrawals, there is just option to enter the IBAN number, which probably means, that withdrawals in PLN are now just plain SEPA ones (most banks in Poland do SEPA).

I've planned to sell some 0.1 BTC on MtGox and try fiat withdrawal, just to learn myself how long it takes. Now I'm every day less convinced that it makes any sense.
newbie
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January 21, 2014, 02:06:33 PM
Has anyone tried the domestic Polish Zloty bank withdrawal route for MtGox? Does that work any better than SEPA?

The delays for domestic PLN withdrawals are as bad as for SEPA withdrawals. Or perhaps even slightly worse.
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January 21, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
Has anyone received USD from them since mid November? I haven't Sad
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January 21, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
Has anyone tried the domestic Polish Zloty bank withdrawal route for MtGox? Does that work any better than SEPA?

Thanks!
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Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino
January 21, 2014, 12:35:09 PM
You haven't mentioned which bank was used to process, neither of you. But judging by your forum handle, you don't know why this is important...

Dude, really? You signed up January 16, 2014 and have written 8 posts here and you write shit like that about two big players who've been around the block and know what they are talking about. Please kill yourself. I asked to get an idea of the current situation, not to waste time reading stupid n00b opinion from someone who clearly has no idea what's going on.

saigo, bakada, thank you for sharing.

Well I suppose he is joking as the handle mentioned implies "I'm moron" in Japanese. As for the bank, he used JNB for successful withdraw this month and that should be one of the factors to distinguish. JNB is the same bank as MtGOX.





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January 21, 2014, 10:08:56 AM

2 withdrawals in JPY, one on 8th, one on 9th Jan. Still only shows as 'confirmed', not 'processed' in Gox account history. Still no reply to numerous support queries. Still waiting, still hoping, all BTC removed from Gox account until I see my money, and regain some confidence.

Yen is not flowing for me either.   I'm similar to Saigo.   1 on 7th, and 1 on 10th.  Both sitting on confirmed still.  

You haven't mentioned which bank was used to process, neither of you. But judging by your forum handle, you don't know why this is important...

Not that many business days have passed. Also, read the fine print concerning the timing of your request, and when the bank will process a transfer after receiving it.

tl;dr do your homework

In my case it's a withdrawal to a japanese domestic bank, every other transaction I've done with japanese banks is a day or two at the most, usually next day. Sorry I don't understand why you think 2 weeks is acceptable or normal at all ?

Saigo, it is not acceptable.   Withdrawals requested by 4pm, are supposed to go to processed the next business day in the gox system.   Then, what ever the time frame your own bank takes from that point.   In my experience Citibank has always deposited the next business day after gox marks it as processed.   

Yeah, I can't see that it is anything other than Gox just sitting on the money, probably due to cash flow issues. I think it is particularly telling that I've had no response from support, yet there was plenty of response recently when chasing up my verification, presumably because they hoped id be depositing funds.
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January 21, 2014, 09:34:51 AM
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There are a host of other factors involved here. Americans sending in more than $2000 into a US bank account have a SAR report done by their bank. Its mandatory and the bank isn't allowed to tell you they did it, but they DO, gentlemen.

I thought it was USD $10,000 that triggered the SAR report.
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