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legendary
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August 20, 2014, 03:44:29 PM
[...]  we have so many updates on the case and his website i believe have a lot o visit but NO UPDATES! why???

This may be a silly question, but did you ask him?



and after all....... http://mtgoxprotest.com/

" Error establishing a database connection "


I like it.....  really what i think now for him is that somehow he got his BTC back....

correct my if i am wrong Smiley  

just a thought Smiley



EDIT:  back on line again..... after i posted it ( of course i don't want to say this was the reason.....)

And of course no more news... he hasn't even published the comments....
hero member
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August 18, 2014, 02:33:03 PM
May i please ask what is your personal opinion on what happend with MtGox.com?
I can think of many theories, and the truth is prbably more complicated than any of them...  Sad

Some things I am quite convinced, though:  Mark knows how it happened but he refuses to tell, on the contrary he tried to blame some external hacker exploiting the "malleability bug".  But that excuse has been debunked already by some people at MIT.   Therefore nothing that Mark Karpelès has said or written can be trusted.  There must have been other people involved.  I cannot see how his associate Gay-Bouchery could not have been aware of the loss; and he has not said anything either. 

Unfortunately there is no real data that people could trust and understand.  That leaked database is incomplete, hard to interpret, and may have been doctored to hide the true culprits.  People who know the truth may be keeping quiet to protect themselves, or have been bribed or threatened to shut up.  It is obvious that many MtGOX customers want to avoid a police investigation, because they were doing something illegal -- even if was not related to the disappearance of the coins.
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August 18, 2014, 01:32:43 PM
At first I thought this story was something, then I realised its just another company out for consultancy fees from Kobayashi..
http://www.coindesk.com/security-firm-claims-new-leads-search-missing-mt-gox-bitcoin/
It does call attention to the fact that anyone conniving enough to come up with this scheme in the first place is calculating enough to realize that it would eventually come out exactly who is to blame.

What is the exit plan, and how did the perpetrator(s) hope to get away with it...a one way spaceflight on Virgin Galactic?
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
At first I thought this story was something, then I realised its just another company out for consultancy fees from Kobayashi..
http://www.coindesk.com/security-firm-claims-new-leads-search-missing-mt-gox-bitcoin/
Or worse: they may be trying to preempt an independent criminal investigation.  The hint of a connection to Roger Ver is troubling, since he was a major client of MtGOX, and possibly a friend of Mark Karpelès (both were living in Tokyo at the time).

That possible connection alone should disqualify them for this task.

And the Sunlot proposal has the same strong smell.


I have no reason not to believe what you wrote, in fact i do like what i read from you. ( because facts are facts and the community has to wake up)
May i please ask what is your personal opinion on what happend with MtGox.com?
hero member
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August 18, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
At first I thought this story was something, then I realised its just another company out for consultancy fees from Kobayashi..
http://www.coindesk.com/security-firm-claims-new-leads-search-missing-mt-gox-bitcoin/
Or worse: they may be trying to preempt an independent criminal investigation.  The hint of a connection to Roger Ver is troubling, since he was a major client of MtGOX, and possibly a friend of Mark Karpelès (both were living in Tokyo at the time).

That possible connection alone should disqualify them for this task.

And the Sunlot proposal has the same strong smell.
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
At first I thought this story was something, then I realised its just another company out for consultancy fees from Kobayashi..
http://www.coindesk.com/security-firm-claims-new-leads-search-missing-mt-gox-bitcoin/
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August 15, 2014, 06:58:34 AM
In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.
better hire a hitman Grin
Careful with jokes... Ross Ulbricht is in deep trouble for allegedly trying to do that. 

Okay, my friend!  Grin

Notice: The Statement above is a joke  Roll Eyes
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August 14, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
When will they release that fucking claim form?

Haven't you heard the news???

(New Date)
Period for filing proofs of claims:     until May 29, 2015
Date for investigation of claims:       September 9, 2015 1:30pm
 

But this is the wrong question....

We have 2 cases here guys.

Case:1) Bankrupt MtGox Co., Ltd. Bankruptcy trustee Attorney-at-law Nobuaki Kobayashi is trying to give some time to Mark and cover as much as he can and in the meantime have a good time with our money and btc and at the end we get pennies back... (Remember the BMW that Mark arrived at MtGox building??? see here: http://www.mtgoxprotest.com/?p=378)

Case:2) Forensics are arriving at conclusions and will have news very soon..... So why having proof of claims when they have found all the BTC and can be open again?Huh
The Japanese government would probably like to clean up the Mt. Gox fiasco. They recently helped form the Japan Authority of Digital Asset (JADA) which will be "a bitcoin business-only group intended to establish standards and codes of conduct for its members." It has explicit government backing, and at least in Japan, should help prevent any future goxing.

Your option 2 is the one most consistent with the goal of Prime Minister Abe's ruling Liberal Democratic Party, which plans to expand direct foreign investment in Japan. How this mess gets handled from here on out will definitely make a difference in public perception as to how safe Japan is as an investment destination of choice. It would be far better to remember how gracefully the government dealt with it and demonstrated leadership by preventing competing factions from exploiting the situation, or else deflecting blame.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
When will they release that fucking claim form?

Haven't you heard the news???

(New Date)
Period for filing proofs of claims:     until May 29, 2015
Date for investigation of claims:       September 9, 2015 1:30pm
 

But this is the wrong question....

We have 2 cases here guys.

Case:1) Bankrupt MtGox Co., Ltd. Bankruptcy trustee Attorney-at-law Nobuaki Kobayashi is trying to give some time to Mark and cover as much as he can and in the meantime have a good time with our money and btc and at the end we get pennies back... (Remember the BMW that Mark arrived at MtGox building??? see here: http://www.mtgoxprotest.com/?p=378)

Case:2) Forensics are arriving at conclusions and will have news very soon..... So why having proof of claims when they have found all the BTC and can be open again?Huh


legendary
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August 14, 2014, 01:35:24 PM
When will they release that fucking claim form?
hero member
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August 14, 2014, 01:28:53 PM
In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.
better hire a hitman Grin
Careful with jokes... Ross Ulbricht is in deep trouble for allegedly trying to do that. 
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
i agree with you but when this "someone" is Mark for example and told to Kolin Burges: "Kolin stop posting and get your BTC back".... both would be happy.....

In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.

What's your opinion?



better hire a hitman Grin


I think some boys would already hired one or more to finish with this BUT would this bring our BTC back?Huh
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August 14, 2014, 02:55:44 AM
i agree with you but when this "someone" is Mark for example and told to Kolin Burges: "Kolin stop posting and get your BTC back".... both would be happy.....

In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.

What's your opinion?



better hire a hitman Grin
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 03:56:27 PM
i agree with you but when this "someone" is Mark for example and told to Kolin Burges: "Kolin stop posting and get your BTC back".... both would be happy.....

In my opinion we should gather together and hire a Private Investigator.

What's your opinion?

hero member
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August 13, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Hi to all.


Any news?

After Kobayashi delayed the claim period for a freaking year, I think it's safe to say no :/ 
All your funds go to his pockets and you can safely turn off notifications to this thread coz there'll be no coin back for sure now methinks.


You know my friend i'm not a person who will leave it like this.
I want to act, do something.

All of you that have lost BTC from MtGox.com why don't you read this post here of Mark in twitter?Huh??
https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/494484371777150979

You don't have Twitter, no problem, this is the tweet of Mark: Air conditionning stopped working. Tech here soon to confirm.

As i commented bellow on twitter this is 1000% a message to someone.
Remember! After some days of this post we read this : 
http://mtgox.gr/tokyo-police-formally-investigate-missing-bitcoin


Come on people!!!

mtgoxprotest.com has stoped posting any news!!! I wonder why..... maybe because someone gave him his BTC back?HuhHuh Maybe......

savegox.com it has not updated its website since May!

and the same situation with the others ( the only active proposal as i see it is from BitOcean Japan)

So am i missing something or everyone that took action on MtGox after some period stoped posting?Huh?

NO i'm not missing anything.. that is a fact!




Not really that's only 2 websites out f many websites...it could just be chance that both have become inactive and have given up on Bitcoin since they have lost theirs...have you ever thought of that? I'm not saying something needs to be done but if someone offered you your btc back you could also sue the person for bribery which would get you more money than before.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 03:24:26 PM
Hi to all.


Any news?

After Kobayashi delayed the claim period for a freaking year, I think it's safe to say no :/ 
All your funds go to his pockets and you can safely turn off notifications to this thread coz there'll be no coin back for sure now methinks.


You know my friend i'm not a person who will leave it like this.
I want to act, do something.

All of you that have lost BTC from MtGox.com why don't you read this post here of Mark in twitter?Huh??
https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/494484371777150979

You don't have Twitter, no problem, this is the tweet of Mark: Air conditionning stopped working. Tech here soon to confirm.

As i commented bellow on twitter this is 1000% a message to someone.
Remember! After some days of this post we read this : 
http://mtgox.gr/tokyo-police-formally-investigate-missing-bitcoin


Come on people!!!

mtgoxprotest.com has stoped posting any news!!! I wonder why..... maybe because someone gave him his BTC back?HuhHuh Maybe......

savegox.com it has not updated its website since May!

and the same situation with the others ( the only active proposal as i see it is from BitOcean Japan)

So am i missing something or everyone that took action on MtGox after some period stoped posting?Huh?

NO i'm not missing anything.. that is a fact!


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August 13, 2014, 06:58:57 AM
To whom it may concern,

 

This is a notice related to the bankruptcy proceedings of MTGOX Co., Ltd. (the Tokyo District Court 2014 (fu) no. 3830), which we are sending to you pursuant to the request from the Tokyo District Court.

 

On July 24, 2014, the Tokyo District Court 20th Civil Division issued an order to change the period for filing proofs of claims and the date for investigation of claims as follows (please refer to the attached file.).

Detailed information for the filing of proofs of claims, including the form of the filing document and the process of the filing will be disclosed through the website of MTGOX Co., Ltd. at a later date. Your patience would be very much appreciated.

 

(Old Date)

Period for filing proofs of claims:     until November 28, 2014

Date for investigation of claims:       February 25, 2015 10:00am

(New Date)

Period for filing proofs of claims:     until May 29, 2015

Date for investigation of claims:       September 9, 2015 1:30pm

 

This email address ([email protected] ) is used only for the purpose of sending messages, and we are unable to check and respond to any replies to this email address.

Since we plan to provide the information regarding the filing of proofs of claims and the bankruptcy proceedings by posting it on the website hosted by the bankruptcy trustee (http://www.mtgox.com/ ), please check this website.

 

Bankrupt MtGox Co., Ltd. Bankruptcy trustee Attorney-at-law Nobuaki Kobayashi
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August 12, 2014, 02:06:43 AM
Peter, Feb 25 10:54:
Dear valued customer,
Thanks for your time and patience. The withdrawal limits are increased to the maximum as per your trusted(AML2) account status. Please check and get back to us for any further assistance.
Best regards,
MtGox Team




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August 11, 2014, 11:45:47 AM
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Your withdrawal is pending. It will go through soonish.
legendary
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August 11, 2014, 06:12:44 AM
Hi to all.


Any news?

After Kobayashi delayed the claim period for a freaking year, I think it's safe to say no :/ 
All your funds go to his pockets and you can safely turn off notifications to this thread coz there'll be no coin back for sure now methinks.
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