Topic: Muhammed Zakir hacked? Account reactivated just now - page 2. (Read 3606 times)

Kid ,
I know you are young , but why are you such a damn fool.

You talk like you know shit , the fact is , you are a wet behind the ear child, less than 21 years old that does not know shit.  You make false claims like when you said IP address could be faked for 2 way communications.

Trying to talk like you are an authority on shit , is stupid.  
YOU ARE NOT!

So unless you actually learn something SHUT THE FUCK UP!
The Grown ups are talking.
Come back when you are over 25 and not so damn stupid.


 

And what keeps the current DT members from creating new accounts and giving trust right now.
Nothing so your point is mute, as least with the new way their is a time imposed ,
with the current corrupt system they can add new fake names and granting fake Positive trust ,
which some are doing NOW!


 

FYI:
Where is all of this analysis on the current corrupt trust system?
You will insult a newer better design over the corrupt current design, what does that say about you?

Well  I just figured the long play scammer could create a trust group using 8 accounts  with 8 people in on it.

do a lot of .01 or less btc deals with everyone clean for 3 months.  Then do some 1 or 2 coin fakes deals almost each other.

At this point 4-6 months are past and then do a large group buy and skip with the coin.  Yeah it is a six month time frame but  8 guys getting 160 coins from a fake group buy may do it.

Since I missed my opportunity to reply to this when it was posted in the original thread, let me tell you why this system isn't fit for the forum whatsoever.

What scammer would agree to being in a trust group with someone who would tag them? This system gives scammers a free reign to do whatever they like because they know that they wouldn't be able to be tagged with a negative rating so long as they didn't agree to be in a trust group with anyone. This completely removes the entire point of the trust system.

Ah yes, so if a new member that didn't understand the system properly agreed to be in a trust group it could be abused by anyone to leave spam negative ratings. I for one would love to see newbies be spammed with hundreds of negative ratings by trolls because they didn't understand what the system did. /s

Apart from it solves neither of those problems, it just lets people spam ratings on people that they don't like because they don't understand the system.
Also, let's assume that this forum is fantastic and everyone understands how the system works. What's to stop someone from requesting to be in a trust group in order to give positive trust, only to then have lied and spams the user with negative trust instead?

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Overall, an idiotic system written by an idiot and promoted by another idiot. If this is the 'best' system that you know of, you should get one of your family members to put you into an institution.

Might as well ask president trump, because there is the slight chance they might start a war on bitcointalk.org. Admins set people on DT to keep out of these issues.


I agree and maybe the system can be improved, but this is hardly the topic here, is it?

The best one written was even better than my prior suggestions.
Theymos ignored it like he ignores everything else.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-has-broken-the-guideline-of-the-trust-system-by-theymos-own-words-ban-her-1913408

 

usa law does it that way.
uk law jurors are hired workers and they do know one another.

2 countries both speak english yet different laws.
and the owners running the forum could be made to answer in either country if either country said  a law was broken by the four and went after the forum.

It is not easy to run a perfect forum with the volume of traffic done here.

in the case of boldar I am happy to say I have his old  tx id  and he can pm me and send me 0.00001234 btc which I would refund back to him.

he simply needs to use the same address he used back in dec 2014

https://blockchain.info/tx/08537f20b649c0daa29f7c8cca7195d9c1a75fa1a707688e1edcbe232eaba30c


BTW  my profile address does not change

https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

if boldar  had done the same  it would not be an issue.

While I do not like involvement on the security end of the forum I can tell you this  it is very hard to  do it correctly and people responsible will tend to be harsh to protect the forum and their own self from legal action.

If nothing was said about bolder or Muhammed Zakir  and a big fraud happened  the forum could be shut down or face legal action.

I am older retired person 60 and I can tell you  a little about USA law and I see nothing wrong with the caution used by dt list.  in the case of Muhammed Zakir or boldar.   If some one wants to write up a better method please do I would look at it and push it if it looked good.




this is his pm from 2014 dec

Actually it matters if theymos removes them from his trust list, while none of this matters if you look at the bigger picture here, any body no matter how good and trustworthy could at any time turn into a scammer.
If it didn't matter what theymos thinks while he is the admin and the entire trust system of this forum is based on his decision and his call then your green trust worth nothing.
IMO trust must be earned by consensus, when some body from DT wants to tag  some body else then at least 5 more DT members should review the case before it takes effect, it doesn't work if you let every DT member individually decide and judges and acts accordingly, why do you think in courts there are a bunch strangers deciding the fate of the defendant?

If admin says that he trusts X & Y then he is giving them the absolute power, and that power is the same power which corrupts people and gives them false sense of authority.

I wish you luck though with your circle of trust, people will continue scamming, killing and destroying, 90% of thieves never wanted to steal but they were impulsive and acted because of temptation of having money, item, property.

Being on the DT list should be deemed sacred because it is nothing less than the sacred duty of a judge in a court of law but DT members are taking it very lightly.

Actually no I don't bother much in security matters on site.  but I have given trust ratings out since 2012  and a pattern of long inactive accounts coming back to life is happening.  So as I said I made a note here  and thats all I am doing.

Years ago I was asked by theymos to go on the default list.  I did it to be helpful and I have help many people.

I have one thing to say about the trust system  it has issues  and if you can write up a better way to fix it  I would support that.

I think you don't realize the volume the site sees.
 I get 1000 pm's a month.
I get $0 for any work  I do for security .
It is also thankless as you can see. Well some of the time it is thankless.

I am mostly on btc mining alt coin mining and marketplace.  I don't want to get into site security as I am not paid for it.

I also don't think you understand that the site is subject to different laws in every country on earth.
people like theymos and lauda   can be asked by many countries to comply to the law in that country.

Believe it or not I do not know the name address or location of theymos or lauda.
I don't side for them or against them but I do know that the site creates legal obligations on the owners and runners of the site in every country in the world.

The fact is boldar went idle  for 2 year time period.  and is yet to respond to my question  whom is he or who are you.

BTW since he paid me in btc in 2014 December for gear there is an easy fix  if he has proper control of his btc he could go back to that address he paid me with and do a dust send to my address. that  pretty proves whom he is.  and he is yet to answer here.

you can feel free to look at the trust I have given and join to people that look wrong as I have invited multiple people to do this and I have done changes on request if they appeared to be good.  I have turned lauda down on some requests to alter my default list on at least one occasion.

Oh , I got this one.

Translation, I am a friend of Lauda and if you keep making waves, I will remove you from my trust.

Real classy Dick Move there philipma1957.  
It is people like you that enable Lauda to abuse all of the non default trust members.


 

FYI:
If you are going to threaten someone don't be a pussy about it.

FYI2:
This should show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the majority of DT members are acting as prison guards ,
right before your eyes an attempt at intimidation of another DT member.
Where is Theymos doing nothing to fix his broken trust system as usual.

I  have got to ask you  where have you been for 2 years? 

You have a 2 year shutdown  from 2015 to 2017  this attracts attention  from  people that try to do security.

I gave you stellar trust  back in Dec 2014  and now I am reviewing  your account and a dozen others that are gapped with inactivity then started up again.

I frankly  don't want to bother  but Muhammed Zakir has asked me more then once to review  accounts to see if they were bad. 

So  who are you?  The real  boldar  or  the same person that hacked into  bitcointalk data base?  Or a different hacker.

I do not like doing detective work  and I am not going to redline you  or pull my  trust away.

But 2 year gaps  in activity make me nervous.

Sorry calling your bullshit out on that one.

Explain how you can have two way communications with a false IP Address

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5180557/why-is-it-not-possible-to-fake-an-ip-address


Login to Btctalk requires a reply to your system, if the IP was faked the login approval is sent to the wrong ip address and you can't login.

So Lauda, why are you lying , hmm?


 


FYI:
Seems like you are still red tagging first and asking questions almost never.

FYI2:
LOL,  
leave it to Lauda to blame the users for Btctalk Staff losing the IP address information.
Then punish the users for the BTCtalk staff's fault. 

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

There's an ignore button which works very nicely.

The database, including IP logs (IIRC) was leaked. Thus getting the IP address that was used with some account should not be too difficult. Spoofing the IP to corresponds with one used before is much harder than just spoofing the location.

No harm done to wait for a signed Bitcoin/PGP message. Do I need to remind the *knights in shining armor* of their complete failures again?

If you can not login to windows, how about to boot via a Linux cd or usb stick you can then easily access the hard drive files and recover your data no?

Because it does not matter what theymos thinks. It matters what hilarious and Zepher think.


No, Ill probably have forgotten about you in a day or two. Sup with the air quotes though?

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Payment was received from the known address[1][2].




[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh/transactions
[2] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/6a961761f0bc515eee5e6be191e45a344e38bababcdd3e235960187136de462e

I would say that based on the fact that MZ changed his PW after the forum's member's table was leaked, that MZ not only posted, but also traded/lent BTC a decent number of times after the forum was hacked would make it reasonable to say that his account was secured after the forum hack. In addition to this, MZ repaid a loan several months late, many months after the hack, communicated with shorena regarding repayment, and shorena did not mention anything about MZ's account getting hacked at the time.

I would also argue that the way MZ is behaving is consistent with how I believe the "real" MZ behaves. Although this can reasonably be faked.

Lastly, per theymos, the IP address of MZ is ~the same as what it was previously. If shorena can confirm some kind of proof of knowledge, then I would say that the person behind the MZ account is likely to be the "real" MZ.

With the above being said, I would still be hesitant to trust someone who has been away from the community for as long as MZ was away, at least at first.....

All DT members make questionable calls on situations like these. From my speculation, Lauda has made the worst calls. Nothing is worse than a red tag an innocent person doesn't deserve. All DT members make mistakes, and for sure many of them have jumped the creek and made a guess here or there. It seems that Lauda does not think the rating's thoroughly, and simply puts red. This is very unfair.

theymos, something must be done.

Theymos himself pops in to let people know that Muhammed Zakir account is using the exact same IP as before and still these users do not remove their False Negative Trust Ratings.
Zepher
Lauda
hilariousandco

@Theymos , you know Lauda has been abusing her position as a DT member for months and you continue to let her place false ratings as she see fit.

How about removing Lauda and blazed from DT because their abuse of it is breathtaking.
They are making a complete and utter joke of your trust system.

 


FYI:
Current Members of a Rogue Default Trust Gang,
tagging others with red trust to limit signature and escrow competition   

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190
Who are we?
    Blazed
    minerjones
    Lauda
    Zepher

Guilty as charged, I can't believe The "Shorena" indirectly addressed me in his post now I'm walking on pink clouds.

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Now the one person with the ability to kick every body from trust list or add any body at will, having access to IP logs and everything is telling you that the user is connecting roughly from same location yet you tell him it's not enough?
Wasn't this like: theymos first trusts a few people and adds them into his list and as they in turn trust a few people themselves and adding them to their list, is there some body above theymos other than the late great Satoshi himself or even if he comes here and vouch for MZ you'll be wanting your signed message?

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Am I going to get banned and tagged now after I posted after "Shorena" indirectly told me not to? lol I think you guys are a little bit full of yourselves, if a hacker were that good to duplicate the IP address then don't you think they could come up with a private key?

Thanks, but you probably know that it wont do.

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Fair enough.

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Maybe we can keep the tech support and trolling out of this and just bump it when something happens. It would be greatly appreciated.

At Muhammed Zakir's request, I looked into his IP logs, and he is currently accessing the forum from roughly the same location as he did previously.