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Topic: My 2,000 BTC is all gone :( - page 3. (Read 9017 times)

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
March 20, 2013, 12:25:18 PM
And yes, had I waited, I could have bought the car, paid off my hubby's car, and paid off the house, but I didn't expect it to keep going up to $60  Shocked Frankly, I thought $30 might be the top of the bubble.
There's your mistake. It's not a bubble. Bubbles are supported by credit expansion. This is monetization.

Where was credit expansion back in June of 2011? Or am I just using incorrect terminology, and that was a hype-based monetization too?

EDIT: Crap. My brain is broken. I meant "Was there credit expansion back in June 2011?" >.<
donator
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
March 20, 2013, 12:03:27 PM
And yes, had I waited, I could have bought the car, paid off my hubby's car, and paid off the house, but I didn't expect it to keep going up to $60  Shocked Frankly, I thought $30 might be the top of the bubble.
There's your mistake. It's not a bubble. Bubbles are supported by credit expansion. This is monetization.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
March 20, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
fake story.

What kind of evidence would you need?

You next to the car with a shoe on your head  Roll Eyes

Ok, not a shoe, but hopefully proof enough:
http://i.imgur.com/OpiSRDX.jpg

Filled it up 5 times so far. Despite winter, have not gone below 50mpg per tank yet. Averaging around 52, but going up with warmer weather.

And yes, had I waited, I could have bought the car, paid off my hubby's car, and paid off the house, but I didn't expect it to keep going up to $60  Shocked Frankly, I thought $30 might be the top of the bubble.
I thought $40 would be the top of the bubble  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
March 20, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
fake story.

What kind of evidence would you need?

You next to the car with a shoe on your head  Roll Eyes

Ok, not a shoe, but hopefully proof enough:


Filled it up 5 times so far. Despite winter, have not gone below 50mpg per tank yet. Averaging around 52, but going up with warmer weather.

And yes, had I waited, I could have bought the car, paid off my hubby's car, and paid off the house, but I didn't expect it to keep going up to $60  Shocked Frankly, I thought $30 might be the top of the bubble.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
February 24, 2013, 04:54:28 AM
OK. You're a gay couple? And you're also into that dog stuff?

^^ answer this ^^  Grin

he did, read the thread

here, I did all the nasty work for you:

Quote from: rassah
Yes we are (together for almost 14 years). We don't like dogs, or anything like "that" with real animals. But we like anime and furry style art.

Wink
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
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February 24, 2013, 02:02:08 AM
OK. You're a gay couple? And you're also into that dog stuff?

^^ answer this ^^  Grin
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
February 21, 2013, 04:09:29 PM
Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).

Hah, their public transportation is as expensive as hell too, it's just subsidized by taxes so the general public don't notice.

Actually... true. We subsidize roads and drive on them with private cars and trucks, and they subsidize rails and ride on them with private trains... I like trains more though.

True. Though I'd like to eliminate all subsidies. However, besides the subsidies, they also penalize driving heavily. Petrol tax in the UK is around 80% of the cost. Yet still people are buying bigger cars and ever more of them. When I was a kid, in the road I grew up in, everyone parked in their driveways. Last time I went back, it was impossible to find a place to park on the road.

The truth is that public transport generally sucks and often doesn't provide the advantages that one would think (you have to run that bus service, even if nobody uses it so you end up running a vehicle that uses three times the fuel of a car for no reason). It's a solution to a problem which doesn't really exist anymore in the first world and the only solution it is good for (disengaging the passenger from the process of manipulating the vehicle) will be solved in a matter of years (also opening a solution to the issues regarding electric vehicles and allowing a sharing of vehicles for those who don't  need or want to own).

I participate in a car-sharing system in the city I live in. It's quite good. No monthly fee, 0.28 € per minute (gas included). I just walk up to the car (after locating one using a mobile app), put my rfid on the reader and go. Can park it anywhere within the operating area for free on public parking spots (usually metered, they have deal with the city).

It's an ideal addon for my normal tram and bycicle usage (cycle 10km to work and back in summer, use tram in winter), comes in handy when I have something to move too big to take with the bicycle or tram.

I grew up in a rural area. Such a concept is not possible there, but in larger European cities there is really no need to own a car.

legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 2267
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 21, 2013, 01:51:55 PM
Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).

Hah, their public transportation is as expensive as hell too, it's just subsidized by taxes so the general public don't notice.

Actually... true. We subsidize roads and drive on them with private cars and trucks, and they subsidize rails and ride on them with private trains... I like trains more though.

True. Though I'd like to eliminate all subsidies. However, besides the subsidies, they also penalize driving heavily. Petrol tax in the UK is around 80% of the cost. Yet still people are buying bigger cars and ever more of them. When I was a kid, in the road I grew up in, everyone parked in their driveways. Last time I went back, it was impossible to find a place to park on the road.

The truth is that public transport generally sucks and often doesn't provide the advantages that one would think (you have to run that bus service, even if nobody uses it so you end up running a vehicle that uses three times the fuel of a car for no reason). It's a solution to a problem which doesn't really exist anymore in the first world and the only solution it is good for (disengaging the passenger from the process of manipulating the vehicle) will be solved in a matter of years (also opening a solution to the issues regarding electric vehicles and allowing a sharing of vehicles for those who don't  need or want to own).
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
February 21, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Well the trains really aren't that private and we subsidize roads too. We basically subsidize everything.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
February 21, 2013, 01:40:39 PM
Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).

Hah, their public transportation is as expensive as hell too, it's just subsidized by taxes so the general public don't notice.

Actually... true. We subsidize roads and drive on them with private cars and trucks, and they subsidize rails and ride on them with private trains... I like trains more though.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 2267
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 21, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).

Hah, their public transportation is as expensive as hell too, it's just subsidized by taxes so the general public don't notice.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
February 21, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
Also hoping to get a TDI, but when I look at VW's European models, the MPG is practically double what it is in the U.S. /rageface

The US vs Europe makes me rageface too! I thought the smart cars were cool and cute as hell (swappable panels, like cellphone faceplates!), and they did 70+mpg on diesel. When they finally came out in US, they do only about 40mpg, and require premium gas, so no savings at all. I was looking forward to getting one for, like, ten years, ever since I saw them in Italy, and when they finally came out, and the EPA totally fucked them up, I was pissed!!!  Angry

Well, last time I was in the US they were basically giving gasoline away compared to European prices so not much need to have a god mileage Smiley

Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).

Nah, most of us still spend it on cars (and standing in traffic). We just pay more for it. Gasoline is just one part of it. We also pay way more for the car itself via taxes and all sorts of other taxes. The joy of socialistic countries ...

I use the public transportation system to save money myself but I'm not a fan and am unlikely to be able to continue to do this indefinitely (the flexibility of a car is quite likely going to be necessary for my job).
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
February 21, 2013, 10:29:49 AM
No wonder public transport is crap and expensive: noone uses it.

It also has to compete with MASSIVE government road and gas subsidies, meaning it almost can't, and definitely can't afford to pay for any improvements.

No Obama-Bus or something? Wink
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
February 21, 2013, 10:22:55 AM
#99
No wonder public transport is crap and expensive: noone uses it.

It also has to compete with MASSIVE government road and gas subsidies, meaning it almost can't, and definitely can't afford to pay for any improvements.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
February 21, 2013, 10:20:06 AM
#98
Also hoping to get a TDI, but when I look at VW's European models, the MPG is practically double what it is in the U.S. /rageface

The US vs Europe makes me rageface too! I thought the smart cars were cool and cute as hell (swappable panels, like cellphone faceplates!), and they did 70+mpg on diesel. When they finally came out in US, they do only about 40mpg, and require premium gas, so no savings at all. I was looking forward to getting one for, like, ten years, ever since I saw them in Italy, and when they finally came out, and the EPA totally fucked them up, I was pissed!!!  Angry

Well, last time I was in the US they were basically giving gasoline away compared to European prices so not much need to have a god mileage Smiley

Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere.

No wonder public transport is crap and expensive: noone uses it.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
February 21, 2013, 10:18:20 AM
#97
Also hoping to get a TDI, but when I look at VW's European models, the MPG is practically double what it is in the U.S. /rageface

The US vs Europe makes me rageface too! I thought the smart cars were cool and cute as hell (swappable panels, like cellphone faceplates!), and they did 70+mpg on diesel. When they finally came out in US, they do only about 40mpg, and require premium gas, so no savings at all. I was looking forward to getting one for, like, ten years, ever since I saw them in Italy, and when they finally came out, and the EPA totally fucked them up, I was pissed!!!  Angry

Well, last time I was in the US they were basically giving gasoline away compared to European prices so not much need to have a god mileage Smiley

Except you guys have something we don't: A decent public transportation system. Ours sucks, and is expensive as hell, so we have no choice but to drive everywhere. Plus everything here is so far apart, that working 30 to 60 minutes away is considered normal. Think of what you spend on buses and trains there, and that's pretty much what we spend on cars (plus maintenance).
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
February 20, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
#96
In this case it probaly would have been best to finance the vehicle and make payments with deflating bitcoins over several years. Hmm... a new car sounds like a good idea. Is that a hybrid?

Hybrids are for absolute suckers.

Suckers who like low per mile cost and high trade in values.   Prius has one of the lowest TOTAL ownership costs. 

legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
February 20, 2013, 05:02:11 PM
#95
Careful with the MPG since the British gallon is larger than the US gallon. The newer cars are also not getting the same mileage as the older ones. Mine is a 2000 and I'm getting just a touch over 45 to the gallon. Mostly I like it because I can go nearly 700 miles on a tank which, for me, means only stopping once a week to refuel.

I haven't seen a Prius making over 40MPG... I took a bunch for a ride from ZipCar and on average they did about 37MPG... Not that impressive since I had Ford Fiesta doing 35MPG and Fusion doing 32MPG... And Fusion is a much better car.

And yea, Golf TDI was doing 35MPG with 2 people and 2 large dogs (70 pounds each) and a trailer behind at about 1500LBS.

Must have been winter.

When driving a 2009 Prius I was able to do 45 mpg easily.  I usually get epa highway ratings on most vehicles I drive going 65 mph since they further revised the EPA tests.

It is amazing though that dodge has a full size truck doing 25 mpg on the highway now.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
February 20, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
#94
Also hoping to get a TDI, but when I look at VW's European models, the MPG is practically double what it is in the U.S. /rageface

The US vs Europe makes me rageface too! I thought the smart cars were cool and cute as hell (swappable panels, like cellphone faceplates!), and they did 70+mpg on diesel. When they finally came out in US, they do only about 40mpg, and require premium gas, so no savings at all. I was looking forward to getting one for, like, ten years, ever since I saw them in Italy, and when they finally came out, and the EPA totally fucked them up, I was pissed!!!  Angry

Well, last time I was in the US they were basically giving gasoline away compared to European prices so not much need to have a god mileage Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
February 20, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
#93
Yeah, certified used models don't go back past 2000 I think, maybe even closer to now.
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