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slaveforanunnak1
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 11:02:43 PM
#62
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
...sorry. Whether the Twitter Nick Szabo is the same Nick Szabo of BitGold...

I know it's all a bit confusing

I'd say probably yes.  Unless the real Nick Szabo has disowned it as a complete impostor, why wouldn't it be him?  It's not a terribly common name.

I guess I find it hard to believe he is such an Ethereum fanboy. I don't know. Seems shilly Undecided

gawd...so sick of you people. everything you don't agree with, is done by shillers and fan boys.
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
#61
Quote from: bitspill on December 12, 2014, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 12, 2014, 12:18:37 AM
Autocorrect will do that as well thought and in all probability, autocorrect is not Satoshi Nakamoto either.
A quick demonstration:- block chain - I just typed that as one word but my computer corrected me.
Interesting find though!

What desktop browser auto corrects? I've only been aware of tablets/phones doing that


I think all auto-correct in the OS's idiom.

I've seen it in mozila and opera and in tor bundle
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:55:57 PM
#60
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
...sorry. Whether the Twitter Nick Szabo is the same Nick Szabo of BitGold...

I know it's all a bit confusing

I'd say probably yes.  Unless the real Nick Szabo has disowned it as a complete impostor, why wouldn't it be him?  It's not a terribly common name.

I guess I find it hard to believe he is such an Ethereum fanboy. I don't know. Seems shilly Undecided
Money is only the testing benchmark application of the blockchain technology. But there are so many other uses, where resilience, independence and anti-fragility are not required for it to work. For example internal company accounting, games, infrastructure control, resource management...
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:48:43 PM
#59
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
...sorry. Whether the Twitter Nick Szabo is the same Nick Szabo of BitGold...

I know it's all a bit confusing

I'd say probably yes.  Unless the real Nick Szabo has disowned it as a complete impostor, why wouldn't it be him?  It's not a terribly common name.

I guess I find it hard to believe he is such an Ethereum fanboy. I don't know. Seems shilly Undecided
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
#58
interesting read
darkmule
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:46:41 PM
#57
Quote from: Flashman on December 14, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
I realize his ideas are very entrenched in the community that bitcoin sprang from, that's why it's hard to separate Szabo-ness from Satoshi-ness.

Really good ideas are viral.  (Unfortunately, so are really bad ideas.)

So it's entirely possible Satoshi was someone who picked up these really good ideas and ran with them.  Speculating on Satoshi's identity is kind of pointless at this phase.
darkmule
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
#56
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
...sorry. Whether the Twitter Nick Szabo is the same Nick Szabo of BitGold...

I know it's all a bit confusing

I'd say probably yes.  Unless the real Nick Szabo has disowned it as a complete impostor, why wouldn't it be him?  It's not a terribly common name.
Flashman
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
#55
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Flashman on December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Szabo is one of the seminal influences on cypherpunk thinking.  It would be no shocker if he were actually personally Satoshi, but he doesn't need to be.  His ideas speak for themselves.

He is one smart motherfucker, and you'd be well advised to take him seriously.

Yes, I take him seriously, I meant flip-flop on whether he's Satoshi or not.

I realize his ideas are very entrenched in the community that bitcoin sprang from, that's why it's hard to separate Szabo-ness from Satoshi-ness.
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
#54
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Flashman on December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Szabo is one of the seminal influences on cypherpunk thinking.  It would be no shocker if he were actually personally Satoshi, but he doesn't need to be.  His ideas speak for themselves.

He is one smart motherfucker, and you'd be well advised to take him seriously.

I thought the question was not whether the person behind Satoshi is Nick Szabo, but whether the person foaming at the mouth on Twitter about Ethereum is the same Nick Szabo as the Nick Szabo behind Satoshi...

 Huh

Nick Szabo has denied being Satoshi Nakamoto.  He has a certain notoriety for honesty, so I would not call him a liar.

It is, however, entirely possible there is no single person who is Satoshi Nakamoto.

...sorry. Whether the Twitter Nick Szabo is the same Nick Szabo of BitGold...

I know it's all a bit confusing
darkmule
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:25:33 PM
#53
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 14, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Flashman on December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Szabo is one of the seminal influences on cypherpunk thinking.  It would be no shocker if he were actually personally Satoshi, but he doesn't need to be.  His ideas speak for themselves.

He is one smart motherfucker, and you'd be well advised to take him seriously.

I thought the question was not whether the person behind Satoshi is Nick Szabo, but whether the person foaming at the mouth on Twitter about Ethereum is the same Nick Szabo as the Nick Szabo behind Satoshi...

 Huh

Nick Szabo has denied being Satoshi Nakamoto.  He has a certain notoriety for honesty, so I would not call him a liar.

It is, however, entirely possible there is no single person who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
BlindMayorBitcorn
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
#52
Quote from: darkmule on December 14, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Flashman on December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Szabo is one of the seminal influences on cypherpunk thinking.  It would be no shocker if he were actually personally Satoshi, but he doesn't need to be.  His ideas speak for themselves.

He is one smart motherfucker, and you'd be well advised to take him seriously.

I thought the question was not whether the person behind Satoshi is Nick Szabo, but whether the person foaming at the mouth on Twitter about Ethereum is the same Nick Szabo as the Nick Szabo behind Satoshi...

 Huh
darkmule
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 14, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
#51
Quote from: Flashman on December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Szabo is one of the seminal influences on cypherpunk thinking.  It would be no shocker if he were actually personally Satoshi, but he doesn't need to be.  His ideas speak for themselves.

He is one smart motherfucker, and you'd be well advised to take him seriously.
Flashman
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
#50
Quote from: TippingPoint on December 13, 2014, 02:36:44 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto is (probably) Nick Szabo
https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/

Running similarity metrics on the whitepaper and Nick’s bit gold articles as well as his paper “formalizing and securing relationships on public networks”  indicated an excellent match over content-neutral expressions as well –so either Nick wrote the whitepaper, or it was written by somebody imitating Nick’s writing style.

  • Repeated use of “of course” without isolating commas, contrary to convention (“the problem of course is”)
  • Expression “can be characterized”, frequent in Nick’s blog
  • Use of “for our purposes” when describing hypotheses
  • Starting sentences with “It should be noted”
  • Use of “preclude”
  • Expression “a level of “ + noun  (“achieves a level of privacy by…”) as a standalone qualifier

There is also the remarkable lack of public reaction on Nick’s part when Bitcoin started taking off.


For our purposes it should be noted that the user of such prose can be characterized as an academic in the sciences, but that does not preclude use by persons having a level of familiarity with such use of course.
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 06:14:09 PM
#49
szaboshi nickomoto...
slaveforanunnak1
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
#48
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 12, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I know Vitalik has spoken to him in person. Not sure how excited he was. didn't check chub.


I've heard this before. Not going to deny it. But how do we know? Vitalik said so? Where did this information come from?


http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/


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[–]vbuterinFounder 20 points 1 month ago

I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person. He was looking into our software and liked its smart contracting potential, but we had a few conversations where he direly warned us not to go down the path if Xanadu and try to make absolutely everything right and get sidelined by a worse-but-good-enough competitor like the World Wide Web in the process.

I've seen this before, too. This is weak beans. What am I missing?


It's simple really. He is either lying or not. I don't know
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 04:54:13 PM
#47
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 12, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I know Vitalik has spoken to him in person. Not sure how excited he was. didn't check chub.


I've heard this before. Not going to deny it. But how do we know? Vitalik said so? Where did this information come from?


http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/


Quote
[–]vbuterinFounder 20 points 1 month ago

I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person. He was looking into our software and liked its smart contracting potential, but we had a few conversations where he direly warned us not to go down the path if Xanadu and try to make absolutely everything right and get sidelined by a worse-but-good-enough competitor like the World Wide Web in the process.

I've seen this before, too. This is weak beans. What am I missing?
slaveforanunnak1
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
#46
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 12, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I know Vitalik has spoken to him in person. Not sure how excited he was. didn't check chub.


I've heard this before. Not going to deny it. But how do we know? Vitalik said so? Where did this information come from?


http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/


Quote
[–]vbuterinFounder 20 points 1 month ago

I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person. He was looking into our software and liked its smart contracting potential, but we had a few conversations where he direly warned us not to go down the path if Xanadu and try to make absolutely everything right and get sidelined by a worse-but-good-enough competitor like the World Wide Web in the process.
BlindMayorBitcorn
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
#45
Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on December 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 12, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I know Vitalik has spoken to him in person. Not sure how excited he was. didn't check chub.


I've heard this before. Not going to deny it. But how do we know? Vitalik said so? Where did this information come from?
slaveforanunnak1
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
#44
Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Gleb Gamow on December 13, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Quote from: BombaUcigasa on December 12, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I know Vitalik has spoken to him in person. Not sure how excited he was. didn't check chub.
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Re: My jaw is still on the floor.
December 13, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
#43
Quote from: TippingPoint on December 13, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
Date:       1994-02-26 21:40:48
Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker
1994 means those people were born in 1965-1970, meaning they should be 45-50 years old.

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

Why is Satoshi 39?
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