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legendary
Activity: 1658
Merit: 1001
December 09, 2014, 04:10:10 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley

Yes! Prevented NLG from becoming a pump and dump scam coin! Cool

Only 0.4 btc needed to reach your wall again, your defense is shaky   Cool

It's the clevermining defense he has put up, the higher the price the more clevermining takes advantage until Geert Johan updates the blockchain?

Don't know, maybe it's his break even point.  Wink

Yep, it's that. Plus a small bit extra for the risk I'm taking. There will be more of these sell walls on the way up.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1007
Live like there is no tomorrow!
December 09, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
For new people coming in on this ANN, I replace the message of 3 great new mechants today, because of the new page.



http://relaxinthecity.nl


http://www.bluejeansonline.nl




http://www.designlampenoutlet.com

Well done! Keep on going. I'm sure adding more online and offline Merchants will keep attracting more people into this coin.

I think it's quite to see it's located next to Bitcoin, Litecoin and Digibyte over there.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
For new people coming in on this ANN, I replace the message of 3 great new mechants today, because of the new page.



http://relaxinthecity.nl


http://www.bluejeansonline.nl




http://www.designlampenoutlet.com
sr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 250
December 09, 2014, 02:42:02 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley

Yes! Prevented NLG from becoming a pump and dump scam coin! Cool

Only 0.4 btc needed to reach your wall again, your defense is shaky   Cool

It's the clevermining defense he has put up, the higher the price the more clevermining takes advantage until Geert Johan updates the blockchain?

Don't know, maybe it's his break even point.  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
December 09, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley

Yes! Prevented NLG from becoming a pump and dump scam coin! Cool

Only 0.4 btc needed to reach your wall again, your defense is shaky   Cool

It's the clevermining defense he has put up, the higher the price the more clevermining takes advantage until Geert Johan updates the blockchain?
sr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 250
December 09, 2014, 02:14:24 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley

Yes! Prevented NLG from becoming a pump and dump scam coin! Cool

Only 0.4 btc needed to reach your wall again, your defense is shaky   Cool
legendary
Activity: 1658
Merit: 1001
December 09, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley

Yes! Prevented NLG from becoming a pump and dump scam coin! Cool
sr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 250
December 09, 2014, 01:51:56 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )

Thanks to your wall we didn't hit the 500 today  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
misschien kan iemand een chinees topic voor openen of voor russies

Zullen we chinees met zen tweeën op starten bram?

vind het best maar ik kan geen chinees, kan wel maar zou niet echt kunnen reageren zal dan google vertaal worden
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2014, 01:31:23 PM
There are probably studies that estimate what % of BTC mined get converted to fiat.  

In the near future it will be converted to NLG  Grin

(I think most dedicated miners hold their NLG or buying stuff with it)
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
December 09, 2014, 01:24:43 PM

With regards to clever, the algo change is specifically about profit.  We need to limit the period of mining profitability and we need to do it faster than we currently do.  It is a profits game for them, so we need to take that away from them.

I like your graphs, but I'm not sure if you're looking at them correctly.  The correlation between difficulty and price might be getting skewed, if I'm reading your post correctly.  Correct me if I'm wrong(it's 4am and the baby is fussy).  The reason you're seeing a direct correlation is because clever is causing it.  Clever isn't a traditional miner that stores their coins and spends a little here and there.  They instadump their coins for BTC/LTC.  I'd suspect you'd see a trailing correlation if you took a closer look.  Clever mines a super low series of blocks, and then the price drops shortly after.  Price isn't driving difficulty in our case right now, but rather difficulty driving price.  Clever mines easy blocks, clever sells easy blocks.  If it wasn't for the dedicated miners propping up the nethash, clever would probably own the whole chain and the price would be much lower than it is now.  You are 100% correct though that in a free market environment, price would drive difficulty via more dedicated miners.  We just aren't in a free market right now.

I would suspect you are correct with the orange/blue observation.  The bottom of that graph would be very blue.  If you have the time, please chart it.  Anyone else could as well.  You just need two data sets, one for clever's blocks, and one for everyone else.

-Fuse


Fuse: Very good points I hadn't considered.  Thanks.  I'm not convinced a traditional miner will be holding a lot of the NLG they obtain, but I very well could be wrong on that.  I'm just trying to compare NLG to something like BTC.  There are probably studies that estimate what % of BTC mined get converted to fiat.  Go get some sleep Smiley   --Mark
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
December 09, 2014, 01:13:30 PM
misschien kan iemand een chinees topic voor openen of voor russies

Zullen we chinees met zen tweeën op starten bram?
legendary
Activity: 1658
Merit: 1001
December 09, 2014, 01:06:05 PM
Finally destroying the 485 sell wall,

NOOOOOO, not my precious sell wall. (Ah, what the heck... I need the funds... Wink )
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2014, 01:04:13 PM
misschien kan iemand een chinees topic voor openen of voor russies
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
December 09, 2014, 12:55:39 PM
Wow! awesome new merchants!  I love this: "relax in the city accepteert credit cards, Guldencoin, PIN en bij voorkeur contante betalingen."   Looks like the schedule for our next trip to Holland is coming together Smiley 
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
legendary
Activity: 1023
Merit: 1000
ltex.nl
December 09, 2014, 11:43:36 AM

Now this is a merchant LTEX can use! Welcome!
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
December 09, 2014, 11:31:20 AM
Fantastic merchant additions, Welcome to all the new merchants. Will look at buying from a couple stores before xmas Smiley
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