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Market price drops again and clever backs off to below 50% again.

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Keep posting positive messages like this. Nice reaction, indeed from that guy. The stickers do there work. Those stickers get more attention than the scan-me stickers, I think, because there is text on it now.

We are on the brink of a new era in the Netherlands soon, I'm sure. The simulator and new algo will be good news in cryptoland, we will do promotion outside. Once the snowball gets rolling it can go very fast. Just patience is needed for a little more time.

nice!. I remember one bus stop in Utrecht central, where i put the sticker, but because i had to wait for the bus there, in the beginning there was nobody, but after 5 min there were like 15 people waiting for the bus, and all of them were looking at the sticker, epic!. Just like it couldn't get any better, one guy just says out loud  "Eindelijk de Gulden terug, dat heeft lang geduurd!". Priceless!

Wow. Nice man!

I did it in may or june with the scan-me stickers at busstops etc.  in the north. Most have been removed by now, but have done some work, I'm sure.

LTEX, your stickers are almost gone, they are everywhere now, i am sure allot of people have seen them, unfortunately some have been removed, but most of them are still there, not always legal  . I traveled half the Netherlands to put these stickers on crowded places, and hope it pays off.

I can design, and 3D print anything!, no problem. Buying a cheap 3D printer would be a good idea if you intend to print many of them because buying at shapeways is much more expensive.

For sure, a snazzy prototype could be made via 3d printer, and then produced in bulk by Chinese manufacturers on the cheap.  Only issue would be securing mining boards.  They aren't being produced anymore, but can be bought in the forums/ebay.  Doesn't necessarily have to be GSDs either, could be any low wattage small miner.  I have some connections in the old GSD sales arena that might be able to source some hardware.  No promises though.


Not entirely difficult.  Minera is open-source... just needs modifying.  I bet a competent designer could write a front end gui to fill in the back end mining, sans minera GUI.  All the internal code is there, it just needs to be reworked.

To simplify things even further, p2p or nomp style pools would be preferred so that the username input is just the wallet input.  No prior pool setup with accounts.  If MPOS style pools are used, there should be an easy tutorial on how to sign up for a pool.

-Fuse

Jero, i agree with you that big mining farms pose a big threat to Guldencoin if the mining adoption in the Netherlands stays behind. That's why there has to come some good solution  in the near future like Cloud-mining, or very simple miners, like ny2cafuse suggested. It sucks to want to make something and just not having the funds for it...That's why cloud-mining for NLG in not very realistic right now. Non the less, the software part is the most difficult to set up. I guess i will have to start to develop some c++ skills.

1) There is already a premine, that has still to be distibuted to the masses.
2) When all is premine at once, the value will be none at once.
3) Foreign investors are warmly welcome. Guldencoin is a very trustfull coin for all early investors and we have to keep it that way.

Meije does 3D design, maybe come up with a themed case. I like the web-interface idea. Just fill out your NLG address and start mining.

This was the original idea back when GSDs first came out.  Single or dual 5 chip GSDs, sans fans, attached to a RPi, inside of a custom case the size of a soup can.  A simple, guided interface to set a pool from a list, which is updated on the back end for ease of use, and a place to put a username/password/wallet address.  With prices the way they are now, and the new $20 Rpi coming out, this could be done on the cheap.  It's not going to make people millions, or even make a return, but it would raise awareness and get miners into the hands of non-miners.

If anyone is serious about doing this, let me know(dev team?).  My team might get behind this again and work towards making this a reality.

-Fuse

ny2cafuse, plug and play mining hardware is a very good idea, but this requires hardware design and manufacturing, which is not easy. Still, if you could  incorporate a raspberry pi board into a miner, and modify minera, users could easily put the miner in their basement and just plug in the power, and access the miner via a web interface like minera.

What Jero said.

"Is nobody seriously going to say how ridiculous these suggestions are?" (Buerra)

and

"total premine isn't that smart" (veertje)


OK, maybe you are right, who knows. But could you please explain why you think so? Thanks.

Sometimes thinking out of the box leads to usefull thoughts, discussions and other ideas. The contribution is great but, yes, imo not the way to go.
Going POS is bad too, big pockets gets bigger and will be like a big black cloud over Guldencoin land. Imo bad in the long term.
CPU mining? Most Dutch people nowadays have laptops. CPU mining on a laptop? Please no, the hardware is nog made for that and my fan makes too much noise.

We have to look at the future:

- hobbiest miners and solo miners? they will be gone
- miningpools and miningfarms? There will be many, mainly overseas where power costs are much more cheap
- mining equipment will get stronger and stronger

When there are 10 miningpools mining with 100GH power, there will always be a very big one with maybe even 100TH. Who knows? The Clevermining problem is here and now and there will be others in future which for sure, will do much more harm on our network if we don't change. We have to learn from Clevermining, it's good it has en is happening. We have to be glad we learn from this now, at this very moment, and not much later when it would not only harm the network but also a much bigger Guldencoin economy.

So that's why I am sure a new algo will not only be great for Guldencoin but for the whole cryptolandscape! We will write history, people will talk about Guldencoin like... well forever. This will be a huge milestone and the step forward everybody is waiting on!

For the very short term: a lower price will keep us save until the algo change. After that... only fireworks, if you ask me... 

Cheers!

Can you relate?

GuldenCoin It's all I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sdy2odzP9Y

GuldenCoin Price Take me higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eop_sG9FVgA

GuldenCoin Timeline - Perfect for a timelapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7cRDcPY3k

CleverMining Greed You still be wanting more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZWZtRUPVY

I would say that our ability to influence the Gulden price is pretty substantial.  And while we don't use NLG on a "daily basis", I doubt many NLG millionaires do either.  I'm not saying it to "scare" the community.  I'm saying it because my team is devoted to making this coin successful.  It's in our best interest to do so.  If changes like this are made, we're out.  You're right about one thing though, changes like this aren't what we signed up for.  I got involved because I was asked to start a pool for this coin.  I asked my team whether they would get behind it, and we reviewed the coin settings and prospectus.  We agreed that this coin had a long term outlook that we all liked.  I'm sure a lot of other community members did the same thing and feel the same way.

While we haven't made as many connections with vendors as people like Buerra has, we've been working behind the scenes on code review and potential projects to benefit the community, one of which is very close to being announced.  We've got skin in the game... can you say the same?

People buy in to a coin long term for stability.  Not for willy-nilly changes that effect everyone involved.  These ridiculous ideas about drastic changes in the core dynamics of the coin are nonsensical at best.  The devs have a distribution method in place.  They don't need to focus on that.  They need to focus on code.  Let the community focus on the PR.

Buerra- I'm with you 100% in what you're saying.  I agree with the cloud mining idea as well... Euro to NLG, no BTC in the middle.  They have that already.

When I was heavily involved with TAG, I had an idea for miners for the everyday user.  I'll poll my team and see if we can come up with some ideas.

-Fuse

Big plans are in the making and the miningproblem will be solved.
@ Digi: total premine isn't that smart.  Keep calm and have patience.
ny2cafeuse doesn't mean it that bad, just says what will happen in general.

Don't get divided people, big solutions and big plans are in the making. Stay positive!  

Is nobody seriously going to say how ridiculous these suggestions are? Pre-mine the remaining NLG coins. It blew my mind the first time I read it, and not in a good way. Maybe come up with a way to get people into NLG with the existing free 100NLG. A Christmas-Guldencoin-promotion, that could work if we do a X-MAS themed give-a-way based on the 100 free NLG people can request. How would you go about promoting it to the country?

@Fuse I can understand if you would. Guldencoin needs mining, like mining needs miners. POS is a huge no-go at this point and pure cpu-mining will fuck up a lot of existing miners too and we will have a lot less miners, most likely. What we could do is make current mining easier to understand by creating plug&play-type hardware. It's all still a bit in the tweaker-o-sphere. I know a little bit about computers, but I find it pretty hard to mine with current mining-equipment. Let alone that my mom or sister would do this. If we could find a way to get more miners that just need a simple device or can use cloud mining for an affordable EUR-price, we would have a good influence on both mining and getting more users in for NLG. On both a technical level and a usability-level. Because we can use Guldencoin in real life, which is a huge plus alongside being able to mine a coin that is worth money.

For example, set up a Betarigs website where people can pay with euro's and the rig-operators get paid in Bitcoin. That would eliminate a step that people find weird now. Buy Bitcoin > Buy hashing > Mine NLG .. Wait what? So if we could make it Buy hashing > Mine NLG and keep on adding to the usability of our coin. We're golden.

I am under the impression that many of you want to go too fast, without realizing that it's going as fast as it can at the moment. We're not even at a snowball-effect yet. Have you told your friends, family, co-workers about Guldencoin yet? Realize that Guldencoin has a lot of potential. If giving away free coins was easy we would've had 4-5-6 times the requests already. Because we haven't been outside of the news at all - https://guldencoin.com/news. We've been on TV, newspapers, interviews, Russia Today, radio and online on several websites. There are a lot of people aware of Guldencoin, they really are, and I've spoken to about 800 possible merchants.

That's right. 800. And their response was always "not yet, we're waiting to see where it goes" or "is this a legal form of payment?" and they are currently waiting for us to step up. Like LTEX said, once you have the users the merchants will follow easily. It's always a chicken-egg situation. And the fact that we have 60 merchants with our current amount of users is awesome. Want Guldencoin out there? Get to it. Tell your friends.