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legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2014, 03:47:48 AM
I understand miners quit the Guldencoin and now we have a problem with multipools? why? I thought that multipools are also miners but they are switching between the most pofitable coins. What is the problem with that?

Multipools can jump or lower the total hashrate in an instance with GH/s. When they do, than the algorithm has to adjust to that, but it swings too much to handle it well sometimes and that is not what we want ofcourse.
legendary
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2014, 03:46:25 AM
This network problem seems to hold the Guldencoin development hostage for over a month now. That is a big pity. Hopefully there will be some other good news soon from the team?

This is a valid point but the blockchain is by far the most important aspect to deal with and it needs to be stable. From where I am sitting it looks like the community is building up the coin and not just the development team which makes nlg even more exciting.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 504
October 20, 2014, 03:26:35 AM
This network problem seems to hold the Guldencoin development hostage for over a month now. That is a big pity. Hopefully there will be some other good news soon from the team?
legendary
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2014, 03:20:22 AM
I just sent a message to Terk asking if he can take a look at the amount of hashrate thrown at NLG.

DGW3 does better re-adjustment than KGW, but as we can see it's not good enough.
DGW3 calculates diff based on the 24 last blocks.
When there's a long blocktime, and then someone mines 1 block, then clevermining takes 23 blocks, the long blocktime block is not taken into the calculation anymore, and the diff spikes.
Now I hear you say: "why don't we increase the number of blocks taken into the DGW3 calculation". Well, I did some simulations and I believe in the end that will only affect the number of blocks clevermining gets before the diff spikes.

So we need something clever (no pun intended).

There are two methods:
- create a re-adjustment algorithm that is actually pretty smart, detecting patterns, applying penalties if a lot of blocks were mined in short time.
- work out how a block reward based on block time. e.g.: `reward = 1000 * (secsSinceLastBlock/150)` with a max of, say, 3000 (after 3x the target blocktime).

Best would be: both.

Please let me know what you think about this!
I'll work out more details this evening (CEST).

Those 2 methods look very interesting to me. It would also make it unique to NLG and that you guys can overcome obstacles on your own. As you know I will continue to support this coin where I can, I have been promoting it with friends and some family members who take the time to understand why Crypto currencies are good. Like Wildwest said there isn't too many coins you can really trust in this crypto space but NLG is certainly one of them.
sr. member
Activity: 409
Merit: 250
October 20, 2014, 02:59:30 AM
I just sent a message to Terk asking if he can take a look at the amount of hashrate thrown at NLG.

DGW3 does better re-adjustment than KGW, but as we can see it's not good enough.
DGW3 calculates diff based on the 24 last blocks.
When there's a long blocktime, and then someone mines 1 block, then clevermining takes 23 blocks, the long blocktime block is not taken into the calculation anymore, and the diff spikes.
Now I hear you say: "why don't we increase the number of blocks taken into the DGW3 calculation". Well, I did some simulations and I believe in the end that will only affect the number of blocks clevermining gets before the diff spikes.

So we need something clever (no pun intended).

There are two methods:
- create a re-adjustment algorithm that is actually pretty smart, detecting patterns, applying penalties if a lot of blocks were mined in short time.
- work out how a block reward based on block time. e.g.: `reward = 1000 * (secsSinceLastBlock/150)` with a max of, say, 3000 (after 3x the target blocktime).

Best would be: both.

Please let me know what you think about this!
I'll work out more details this evening (CEST).
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
October 20, 2014, 02:57:46 AM
I still think a longer maturity time for newly minted blocks is a nice and simple feature.
Yes we agree and this is something we could start with.

Was digishield maybe not better because all the scrypt coins went with digishield or is it because of > 2 min block times that makes it more difficult?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
The inability of NLG to be used for wallet to wallet transactions is starting to sour me on this coin. Yesterday the network was stuck at a diff of 777 for well over 2 hours, and again this morning the network was stuck for over an hour at a diff 497, during which time it is impossible to transfer NLG from wallet to wallet.

It is all fine and good that LiteBit? approves NLG transactions immediately regardless of network status, but for NLG to not be useable for wallet to wallet transactions is killing NLG.

The dev team must assess and address this immediately, there are plenty of coins that are using retargeting algos that are effective when dealing with network hashrate spikes. This is not rocket science, the dev team seems to burying their collective heads in the sand and hoping for the best.

DGW3 is not working, find a solution. Now!!!

We apologize if we gave the impression we bury our heads in the sand or didn't inform properly about the current situation. We recognize your frustration and are fully aware that DGW3 is not fixing the issue of multipools. This is still our number one priority and we are investigating other algo's, but its simply not a matter of copy paste, as other coins have different configurations and the scenarios are different. So we have to investigate, run simulations and even think about custom made algo's, as you can imagine something like that will take time.

Also to be aware of what is happening we've spend a lot of time developing tools like explorer.guldencoin.com and seeds.guldencoin.com. These tools can help us now and in the future to get the information we need to find a good solution. The crypto landscape is always changing and Guldencoin is a long term project, so tools like these are very important as they provide us a clear overview of what's happening.

The fact that LitePaid approves NLG transactions immediately is NOT a solution, but it means that merchants won't notice these current spikes and can do business like they expect and demand. LitePaid is a third party company that provides merchants with a service and for merchants to even consider accepting crypto we need services like LitePaid, for now that is. I can't think of one serious merchant for NLG or BTC that doesn't work with a third party payment provider. In the future when Guldencoin is a more recognized payment method, merchant will choose to accept Guldencoin directly, instead of converting directly to EUR. Currently some merchants are getting paid in Guldencoin through LitePaid instead of EUR.

So yes its a very serious and frustrating issue which needs to be addressed immediately and we doing everything in our capability to do so, but we don't have the solution yet. So like before we implemented DGW3 the community helped us a lot by discussing different algo's, I would like to ask the community to help us again. We all want to solve this quickly. So when you look into other coins with working algo's, please also compare the other factors.

DGW3 is not the solution, we are doing everything in our capability to find the solution. Let's work together on this and get the network healthy.

Nice... but i haven't the faintest idea were you are talking about. I am just a simple Guldencoin user with no technological background of cryptocurrencies. But i feel the Guldencoin is in Danger....like hundreds of other cryptocurrencies. Can someone explain it in simple words (ELI5).  Smiley. I understand miners quit the Guldencoin and now we have a problem with multipools? why? I thought that multipools are also miners but they are switching between the most pofitable coins. What is the problem with that?
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250
October 20, 2014, 01:56:29 AM
Is there anything wrong with Nite's Gravity Well? Seen it in action for a coin I once played with, worked pretty good.

UFO coin also has nite's gravity well with some other security features maybe something to look at
sr. member
Activity: 1701
Merit: 308
October 20, 2014, 12:39:54 AM
For those interested in some daily mining statistics about NLG, feel free to head over to http://nlgstats.iblogger.org  (appologize for the crude html, not my thing).  This has been my scratchpad to learn about / interact with the blockchain.  Will gladly try my best to add any additional info to the daily stats if it will help.  Just shoot me a PM with ideas.  If additional products are needed I'll see what I can do.  There is also an NLG richlist (top 100 addresses) for those interested in those types of things.  I'll update at least daily, just remember to refresh (F5?) for the latest info.  Chrome likes to cache.

RE: Long block gaps:  In my humble opinion regarding large scrypt multi-pools, I'm against IP blocking.  In the immediate short term let's reach out to clevermining and try to tweak their NLG targeting to avoid these long block gaps?  Based on his previous posts they seem reasonable and willing to work with us.  It is probably is more efficient for clevermining to have a dialog with one 1 NLG rep (dev?) and hopefully the information coming out of those talks will flow here in a timely fashion?   Appreciate the NLG devs are being cautious and providing more frequent updates on progress.  Investigations, simulation and analysis take time if done properly and nobody has unlimited free time. 

I have to agree, I will say this if something ever had to happen to Guldencoin I will never invest in another altcoin. This is the only one I trust 100% outside of bitcoin and I hope everyone can help in getting the blocktime issues resolved.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
October 20, 2014, 12:24:01 AM
For those interested in some daily mining statistics about NLG, feel free to head over to http://nlgstats.iblogger.org  (appologize for the crude html, not my thing).  This has been my scratchpad to learn about / interact with the blockchain.  Will gladly try my best to add any additional info to the daily stats if it will help.  Just shoot me a PM with ideas.  If additional products are needed I'll see what I can do.  There is also an NLG richlist (top 100 addresses) for those interested in those types of things.  I'll update at least daily, just remember to refresh (F5?) for the latest info.  Chrome likes to cache.

RE: Long block gaps:  In my humble opinion regarding large scrypt multi-pools, I'm against IP blocking.  In the immediate short term let's reach out to clevermining and try to tweak their NLG targeting to avoid these long block gaps?  Based on his previous posts they seem reasonable and willing to work with us.  It is probably is more efficient for clevermining to have a dialog with one 1 NLG rep (dev?) and hopefully the information coming out of those talks will flow here in a timely fashion?   Appreciate the NLG devs are being cautious and providing more frequent updates on progress.  Investigations, simulation and analysis take time if done properly and nobody has unlimited free time. 
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250
October 20, 2014, 12:01:53 AM
I still think a longer maturity time for newly minted blocks is a nice and simple feature.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
@halofirebtc
October 19, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Is there anything wrong with Nite's Gravity Well? Seen it in action for a coin I once played with, worked pretty good.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
HODL for life.
October 19, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
The inability of NLG to be used for wallet to wallet transactions is starting to sour me on this coin. Yesterday the network was stuck at a diff of 777 for well over 2 hours, and again this morning the network was stuck for over an hour at a diff 497, during which time it is impossible to transfer NLG from wallet to wallet.

It is all fine and good that LiteBit? approves NLG transactions immediately regardless of network status, but for NLG to not be useable for wallet to wallet transactions is killing NLG.

The dev team must assess and address this immediately, there are plenty of coins that are using retargeting algos that are effective when dealing with network hashrate spikes. This is not rocket science, the dev team seems to burying their collective heads in the sand and hoping for the best.

DGW3 is not working, find a solution. Now!!!

I'd have to agree with 24Kilo on this one.  I tried to make a deposit to Bittrex last night and the time it to confirm was 140 minutes or more.  The price was 510 I finally gave up waiting and just went to bed.  When I woke up, I sold at ~470 or so.  That's a big hit just because of confirmation times.  Sure I could have stayed up and waited it out, but with non-uniform block times, who knows what it would have taken.

Truth of the matter is that Terk's pool is still hitting upwards of 70-90% of the blocks on any given day, which is a huge security concern to me still.  That pool's influence on the chain is more than I would have accepted a long time ago.  I would have IP banned them from the get-go, but I'm a bit more extreme sometimes.

We keep saying that we will even out when there are more dedicated miners, but we won't get dedicated miners with the current dynamics.

We need to knock multipools off the chain, and we need to do it sooner than later.

-Fuse
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 250
October 19, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
The inability of NLG to be used for wallet to wallet transactions is starting to sour me on this coin. Yesterday the network was stuck at a diff of 777 for well over 2 hours, and again this morning the network was stuck for over an hour at a diff 497, during which time it is impossible to transfer NLG from wallet to wallet.

It is all fine and good that LiteBit? approves NLG transactions immediately regardless of network status, but for NLG to not be useable for wallet to wallet transactions is killing NLG.

The dev team must assess and address this immediately, there are plenty of coins that are using retargeting algos that are effective when dealing with network hashrate spikes. This is not rocket science, the dev team seems to burying their collective heads in the sand and hoping for the best.

DGW3 is not working, find a solution. Now!!!
full member
Activity: 170
Merit: 100
October 19, 2014, 04:26:30 PM
 Grin me too. And how easy it is to pay with my iPhone wallet. Scan, check price and send. Quick and easy! Hope the app will be soon officially available at the iStore. It really works super.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
October 19, 2014, 01:00:13 PM
Maybe not as exciting as Curved televisions, but....

The stickers can be ordered at the Guldencoin Marketing Store!  Grin

http://shop.guldencoin.marketing/product/nlg-promotiesticker/



i have order some stickers
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
October 19, 2014, 10:16:45 AM
Just as a reminder, we only need 15 more people for Thunderclap to be a sucess. Please join in a make one hell of a statement regarding Guldencoin.



Thunderclap is now at 85% with a 'Social Reach' of 38,749 people!
sr. member
Activity: 409
Merit: 250
October 19, 2014, 10:04:26 AM
We have received some reports that receiving coins shortly after downloading/installing the Android app is not working.
The android developer, Nuno, is looking into it. We hope to have a fix soon.

We have noticed that a rescan (settings > reset chain) a while after the initial install (2 hours, to be sure) will get you your coins back.

Please make sure to always back-up the wallet before starting to use it.

For feedback and reactions, please see this topic: https://forum.guldencoin.com/index.php?topic=618.0
legendary
Activity: 1025
Merit: 1000
ltex.nl
October 19, 2014, 04:47:31 AM
Maybe not as exciting as Curved televisions, but....

The stickers can be ordered at the Guldencoin Marketing Store!  Grin

http://shop.guldencoin.marketing/product/nlg-promotiesticker/

legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
October 18, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
Our next merchant is http://picturedesk.nl/ who now accepts Guldencoin Smiley

Welcome picturedesk!



and

https://cointronics.nl/

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