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Quote from: Don007 on June 27, 2014, 12:41:01 PM

For small purchases it can be good. You mentioned "coffee shops" Wildwest, how about using "GuldenCoin" at the Dutch Coffeeshops (which sell cannabis instead of just coffee). I think it's a great way to pay anonymously for your cannabis by paying with Guldencoin! Hey development team & GuldenCoin crew, note this down Wink

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I'm sorry to say this, but every coin forked off Bitcoin is not suitable for anonymous transactions. I am currently researching exactly how much information can be found on the network and how hard it is to point out the actual owner of an address, but my lab results show that this can be done. It may be a little more obscure, but obscure is not secure.

Just my 0.02 NLG.

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Quote from: /GeertJohan on June 27, 2014, 04:35:02 PM

Hi all,

I just made a small program that iterates over the latest blocks in the chain and calculates the cumulative of mined coins per address.
The results are interesting. Please note this is just an indication as to where mined coins were sent. It doesn't exactly say 'who' mined the coins.
It's also important to note that the program still fails to analyze a small few strange blocks, such as 72028 (http://dutchpool.org:2752/block/e1e106cc16a68528529436b949ad0265a9eb033998ca68d4cd6fc9747ab2220a). I'm still working on a fix, but the impact on the results below will be very small and I didn't want to keep you waiting.

I've ran the program several times with a different number of historical blocks analyzed.

(INFO REMOVED TO SAVE SPACE)

I hope you find it interesting!
Thanks!

/GeertJohan

edit: fix minor english mistakes

I'm not sure the figures are 100% correct. Both my pool and personal addresses are in the lists, but the numbers don't quite correspond with what I'm seeing on my end as total mined coin. Can you clarify how you got the values that you've calculated?

This is a really interesting set of data, and a great tool for analyzing trends in the blockchain.

-Fuse

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Hi all,

I just made a small program that iterates over the latest blocks in the chain and calculates the cumulative of mined coins per address.
The results are interesting. Please note this is just an indication as to where mined coins were sent. It doesn't exactly say 'who' mined the coins.
It's also important to note that the program still fails to analyze a small few strange blocks, such as 72028 (http://dutchpool.org:2752/block/e1e106cc16a68528529436b949ad0265a9eb033998ca68d4cd6fc9747ab2220a). I'm still working on a fix, but the impact on the results below will be very small and I didn't want to keep you waiting.

I've ran the program several times with a different number of historical blocks analyzed.

Last 100 blocks (starting from 72226):
01: GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg: 41000.030100
02: GMnaaMMV66NHmsEVVfik2tGinMQ8nVG1DA: 28710.200079
03: GNDA5MZWcm4AjLtNuEmYpgH8qsxo4vrnY8: 17000.001000
04: Gc37wyZ2UqxRBkSf8S8xowrGTy2KDpgksQ: 9900.000990
05: GJQiHxaJgfzwH2UKAnNN9WL9FRZsPgcsSx: 2000.002000
06: GM7PjaDESw7JgJXBZiyJZ6pcKTMeBSdLuE: 990.000000
07: GaVgch4gm1ASjH2kabi6Mizzr7dsEWkFnJ: 290.002021
08: GdcHQ6QtL9eBKZXwSWEB8GEXf8Ae7VeKx1: 100.000010
09: GY83XLGHe2ho56CRWRt2gKnc6NEGgYiLEH: 10.000000

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01: GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg: 98000.132300
02: GMnaaMMV66NHmsEVVfik2tGinMQ8nVG1DA: 49500.201070
03: GNDA5MZWcm4AjLtNuEmYpgH8qsxo4vrnY8: 32000.005000
04: Gc37wyZ2UqxRBkSf8S8xowrGTy2KDpgksQ: 14850.000990
05: GJQiHxaJgfzwH2UKAnNN9WL9FRZsPgcsSx: 3000.002000
06: GM7PjaDESw7JgJXBZiyJZ6pcKTMeBSdLuE: 990.000000
07: GeKem77rdmVUVAr3NSWoocRnFzG4pqUNLa: 825.713624
08: GaVgch4gm1ASjH2kabi6Mizzr7dsEWkFnJ: 500.002031
09: GJKtwPLaH4vm8KQ1iY81ZoBhhQvgtfYwzj: 164.142725
10: GdcHQ6QtL9eBKZXwSWEB8GEXf8Ae7VeKx1: 150.000010
11: GY83XLGHe2ho56CRWRt2gKnc6NEGgYiLEH: 10.000000
12: GTumSsfv6dKUurP3va3adzWszRiUzJ6zkn: 9.221501
13: GP9pWRxr4AzLAmLmR6FstxEbxYAVkPL5o4: 0.922150
14: GcpzphoLCjw9oYk8S2YNBYTQUrvBmXLBRS: 0.000000

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02: GMnaaMMV66NHmsEVVfik2tGinMQ8nVG1DA: 126722.209879
03: GNDA5MZWcm4AjLtNuEmYpgH8qsxo4vrnY8: 101000.030800
04: Gc37wyZ2UqxRBkSf8S8xowrGTy2KDpgksQ: 79200.150480
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08: GM7PjaDESw7JgJXBZiyJZ6pcKTMeBSdLuE: 990.000000
09: GdcHQ6QtL9eBKZXwSWEB8GEXf8Ae7VeKx1: 800.001520
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11: GJKtwPLaH4vm8KQ1iY81ZoBhhQvgtfYwzj: 164.142725
12: GTumSsfv6dKUurP3va3adzWszRiUzJ6zkn: 19.365153
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15: GcpzphoLCjw9oYk8S2YNBYTQUrvBmXLBRS: 0.000000

Last 5000 blocks (starting from 72227):
01: GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg: 2470012.023705
02: GNDA5MZWcm4AjLtNuEmYpgH8qsxo4vrnY8: 1430023.098002
03: GMnaaMMV66NHmsEVVfik2tGinMQ8nVG1DA: 615798.614081
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09: GM7PjaDESw7JgJXBZiyJZ6pcKTMeBSdLuE: 9900.012870
10: GaVgch4gm1ASjH2kabi6Mizzr7dsEWkFnJ: 6220.188021
11: GeKem77rdmVUVAr3NSWoocRnFzG4pqUNLa: 3824.030081
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30: GY83XLGHe2ho56CRWRt2gKnc6NEGgYiLEH: 100.000130
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35: GcpzphoLCjw9oYk8S2YNBYTQUrvBmXLBRS: 0.000004

Last 50.000(!!) blocks (starting from 72227):
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02: GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg: 10748033.674306
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[1215 more addresses omitted]

I hope you find it interesting!
Thanks!

/GeertJohan

edit: fix minor english mistakes

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Quote from: Don007 on June 27, 2014, 01:21:19 PM

That isn't a bad idea! The dev team should indeed add an up-to-date counter to the website regarding each funds.

By donating funds to a Dutch charity they might reach the media and press indeed. For example the Dutch SBS program "Hart van Nederland" might be interesting in this kind of news, as they Always have that charity-related news (in contrast to the NOS etc).

The Dev team might consider to create a page where you can donate to individual created charity programs too. I think some people are interested in these programs AS LONG AS THEY APPEAR TO BE LEGIT. So, someone has to escrow this service (or the GuldenCoin team has to do this themself). "Hart van Nederland" shows such individual charity programs each day, for example now about that girl that went to the USA for some oxygen therapy (which was possible because of the donations that we're send towards this project after an episode of Hart van Nederland I guess). Sending GuldenCoins to such projects is way more easy - atleast for us - than doing it the regular way by bank.

I agree... target the home country first, and create a buzz.

http://www.charity-charities.org/Netherlands-charities/Netherlands.html has a pretty good list.

-Fuse

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Quote from: strataghyst on June 27, 2014, 12:56:11 PM

Maybe a good idea for the dev team is to build a website where you can donate to charity.
Like Warchild, kankerfonds, WNF enz.

I would set a cap like 100,000NLG per chartiy and when donations reach that cap contact the charity in question to say they can collect a donation
only thing they have to do is download the wallet en send out a press release or something like that.

I think this will generate some positif media attention in the long run and we can donate some of our mined coins to a good cause.

Just my thought's
Grin

That isn't a bad idea! The dev team should indeed add an up-to-date counter to the website regarding each funds.

By donating funds to a Dutch charity they might reach the media and press indeed. For example the Dutch SBS program "Hart van Nederland" might be interesting in this kind of news, as they Always have that charity-related news (in contrast to the NOS etc).

The Dev team might consider to create a page where you can donate to individual created charity programs too. I think some people are interested in these programs AS LONG AS THEY APPEAR TO BE LEGIT. So, someone has to escrow this service (or the GuldenCoin team has to do this themself). "Hart van Nederland" shows such individual charity programs each day, for example now about that girl that went to the USA for some oxygen therapy (which was possible because of the donations that were send towards this project after an episode of Hart van Nederland I guess). Sending GuldenCoins to such projects is way more easy - atleast for us - than doing it the regular way by bank.

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Maybe a good idea for the dev team is to build a website where you can donate to charity.
Like Warchild, kankerfonds, WNF enz.

I would set a cap like 100,000NLG per chartiy and when donations reach that cap contact the charity in question to say they can collect a donation
only thing they have to do is download the wallet en send out a press release or something like that.

I think this will generate some positif media attention in the long run and we can donate some of our mined coins to a good cause.

Just my thought's
Grin

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Quote from: bram_vnl on June 27, 2014, 10:44:26 AM

where are the updates? Cry

Which updates are you expecting?

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Quote from: Wildwest on June 27, 2014, 09:49:52 AM

The Merchants NLG should be after now is gift cards, coffee shops, any food and beverages. Stuff that everyone wants and under 10 Euros.

Houses and Cars can come in 3 years time when the value is much higher.

I agree with that. As the value of GuldenCoin is still quite low, you shouldn't buy and sell stuff with a high price. That's the same what is said earlier about one of the biggest ASICs shops in The Netherlands. However.. if we can use GuldenCoin to buy such expensive stuff I'm sure it will increase the buyorders of this coin

. However, I think the current market isn't ready for such transactions yet.

For small purchases it can be good. You mentioned "coffee shops" Wildwest, how about using "GuldenCoin" at the Dutch Coffeeshops (which sell cannabis instead of just coffee). I think it's a great way to pay anonymously for your cannabis by paying with Guldencoin! Hey development team & GuldenCoin crew, note this down Wink

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where are the updates? Cry

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If we all buy cheap BTC and buy nlg sell walls the price will be higher.

Mining 40k Nlg a day for a week

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The Merchants NLG should be after now is gift cards, coffee shops, any food and beverages. Stuff that everyone wants and under 10 Euros.

Houses and Cars can come in 3 years time when the value is much higher.

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Remember all it's the playoffs for the soccer world cup. Time to place those bets before tomorrow strikes! Lets up the stakes

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Quote from: /GeertJohan on June 27, 2014, 09:25:23 AM

I think he means that if you purchase something online, the business accepting the btc or nlg will sell those to usd or eur. Because their bills must be paid with usd or eur (suppliers, factory, workers, electricity, etc)

You're right I misread...

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I think he means that if you purchase something online, the business accepting the btc or nlg will sell those to usd or eur. Because their bills must be paid with usd or eur (suppliers, factory, workers, electricity, etc)

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Quote from: F1k on June 27, 2014, 07:02:52 AM

Quote from: c_e_d on June 27, 2014, 05:08:49 AM

Mining ASICs Technologies B.V. in Maastricht would be an even better idea in my eyes

I have a direct line with one of the bigger asic shops in The Netherlands. The owner's position on accepting NLG is that it would be bad for the coin, as a single order on his shop would fill all the buy orders that are outstanding at the moment.

Also, keep in mind that until it is possible to pay your bills with BTC or NLG it would not make sense to hold on to them in large amounts, as fiat is needed for business continuity.

I don't get this one... If someone buys with crypto he / she aready HAS the crypto and is not going to exchange Eur vs NLG to buy something online that can also be bought with fiat. So buying a rig wil likely cause a sell wave instead of a buy. What do you mean with no sense to hold because fiat is needed...

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Ill put my new 30MH in a nlg pool today

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Quote from: thsminer on June 27, 2014, 06:26:27 AM

Quote from: WaterLooDown on June 27, 2014, 04:16:49 AM

Quote from: TamiLee on June 27, 2014, 03:59:48 AM

Quote from: thsminer on June 27, 2014, 03:48:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just wanted to drop this again, its a very cool seed info page our dev Geert-Johan made: https://seeds.guldencoin.com/#/dashboard

Maybe it's an idea to add an hasrate distribution and alert, at this moment 80% is going to GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg...

Hashrate is over 450 mhz again, at this difficulty and price you need to be using ASICs, litecoin at current prices is now a loss for GPU miners. You can see the switch all GPU miners are making to x11 coins now.
As GPU miner I would still mine NLG for future prise increases but most miners want to take profits right away.

So NLG will become about having as many ASICs as possible mining it as opposed to GPUs, this is a good thing because right now ASIC miners need to dump to ROI which means more NLG
to buy for new and existing users.

Once press release has been made I would suggest contacting KnC the manufacturers of ASICS and ask them to support NLG in any way they can. KnC is one company that is doing it right and very honest company and I am sure they will support NLG for being the same.

That is a great idea Tami, I will reach out to them and see what they say.

I read a lot of controversal posts about them, so I don't know if being related to them is such a good idea.

i thin it is a good idea

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When will there be a nice api on the blockchain? Like blockchain.info has?

I need it to simple intergrate it as payment method.

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Quote from: c_e_d on June 27, 2014, 05:08:49 AM

Mining ASICs Technologies B.V. in Maastricht would be an even better idea in my eyes

I have a direct line with one of the bigger asic shops in The Netherlands. The owner's position on accepting NLG is that it would be bad for the coin, as a single order on his shop would fill all the buy orders that are outstanding at the moment.

Also, keep in mind that until it is possible to pay your bills with BTC or NLG it would not make sense to hold on to them in large amounts, as fiat is needed for business continuity.

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Quote from: WaterLooDown on June 27, 2014, 04:16:49 AM

Quote from: TamiLee on June 27, 2014, 03:59:48 AM

Quote from: thsminer on June 27, 2014, 03:48:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just wanted to drop this again, its a very cool seed info page our dev Geert-Johan made: https://seeds.guldencoin.com/#/dashboard

Maybe it's an idea to add an hasrate distribution and alert, at this moment 80% is going to GdDkjtEeKm1r26zhXj6TpHqu3FGDbpHaRg...

Hashrate is over 450 mhz again, at this difficulty and price you need to be using ASICs, litecoin at current prices is now a loss for GPU miners. You can see the switch all GPU miners are making to x11 coins now.
As GPU miner I would still mine NLG for future prise increases but most miners want to take profits right away.

So NLG will become about having as many ASICs as possible mining it as opposed to GPUs, this is a good thing because right now ASIC miners need to dump to ROI which means more NLG
to buy for new and existing users.

Once press release has been made I would suggest contacting KnC the manufacturers of ASICS and ask them to support NLG in any way they can. KnC is one company that is doing it right and very honest company and I am sure they will support NLG for being the same.

That is a great idea Tami, I will reach out to them and see what they say.

I read a lot of controversal posts about them, so I don't know if being related to them is such a good idea.

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