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IPO UPDATE:
1,080 seats have been sold so far after 48 hours of trading.  That leaves roughly 2,260 more seats to be sold in order for seatowners to own all of the equipment that has already been purchased for this operation.  
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On another note, OgNasty, if you could set up an automatic system to pay dividends daily or every three days or something, that would be great, otherwise weekly is fine.

Lots of options are being considered to prepare us for the turbulent ride ahead in this market and enable us to pay out Bitcoin distributions in a reliable fashion.
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Bitcoin today is what the internet was in 1998.
An issue which takes care of it's investor's money will be very popular.

Could you elaborate on this?

Let's say you see a mining share that represents 1 mhash/share and is valued at 0.25. Maybe you buy it, maybe you don't. Let's say the company has 1000 shares.

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When people expand they're supposed to, at some point, be able to do it out of their company's profits. Ultimately a company which must return to the market time and time again and never provides any accretive value for shareholders, is a very poorly run company. The idea of "mining bonds" has to be revisited here. These are not bonds, they're shares with a fixed dividend. A bond is a paper security which represents a loan. Once people begin to wake up and smell the toast burning, I personally feel the current concept of "mining bonds" will disappear in a puff of smoke. You can already see it with the influx of new non-deterministic mining companies which promise to accrete value. That's my take on it. Just my opinion.

Nice insight! tl;dr version: For asset issuers, preserving shareholders' trust is more important than shortsightedly attaining benefits from the arbitrary sale of shares.
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Bitcoin today is what the internet was in 1998.
Interesting, a mining bond with exposure to GPUMax. *Ahem* not to tip off anybody, but the price is at .27 right now for a bond potentially worth ~1.25 Mh/s.

Please consider adding value to shares of your company by increasing the mHash/share over time.

Check out https://glbse.com/asset/view/MOORE. I agree though that you should expand your company in the future and offer more shares or use one of the other solutions presented in this thread.

An issue which takes care of it's investor's money will be very popular.

Could you elaborate on this?

On another note, OgNasty, if you could set up an automatic system to pay dividends daily or every three days or something, that would be great, otherwise weekly is fine.
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If the hash rate is increased by double, then I say just do a 2 for 1 stock split.
I don't think the GLBSE supports that functionality yet.
This sounds like a job for...
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If the hash rate is increased by double, then I say just do a 2 for 1 stock split.

I think it is important that only the 25,000 seats exist and they are not diluted over time as with most other offerings.

EDIT:  Unless we do something stupid like take on debt and it requires a 1-time dilution of 5,000 seats for us to learn our lesson.
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 In this scenario, shareholders would have 2 options.  A) The MH/s per share could be increased, or B) 1/2 of the Singles could be traded for ASICs and the other 1/2 could be sold off to provide funds for a special dividend, thereby keeping shares at 1MH/s.
If the hash rate is increased by double, then I say just do a 2 for 1 stock split. Double the number of shares outstanding.
Everyone who owns 10 shares now has 20 shares, etc.
This seems the easiest way to issue additional hash rate while keeping each share at 1MH/s.
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Initial IPO investors have received a special dividend in the amount of 0.02BTC/share to compensate for the newly lowered offering.


Thanks, bought more shares Grin
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Thanks Smiley

Maybe a interesting question.
We buy basically shares to own small parts of the BFL singles. BFL stated that their will be a trad-in program to go from the singles to the ASIC offering they have.
Does this mean it will be possible for the mining fund to go from the singles to the ASIC's. If for 10BFL's @3200 Mhz/s you get 1 ASIC boards @ 7200 Mhz/s the output of this bond will also dubble (effectively making it a 2 Mhz/s bond).
This would make this bond one of the most future proof mining assets to own imo.  

I would not trade the organization's owned equipment for ASICs and pocket the added power.  That is one of the many advantages to being an organization and not a mining bond, and the reason why I feel that seats are currently being undervalued.  We will grow and over time you will see a seat bought today being worth FAR MORE than 2MH/s in hashing power.
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Due to a rise in BTC vs USD price since the planned IPO, I have decreased the offering to 0.27BTC/share. 

Initial IPO investors have received a special dividend in the amount of 0.02BTC/share to compensate for the newly lowered offering.

After the 1st day of trading, 212 shares have been sold.

Thanks Smiley

Maybe a interesting question.
We buy basically shares to own small parts of the BFL singles. BFL stated that their will be a trad-in program to go from the singles to the ASIC offering they have.
Does this mean it will be possible for the mining fund to go from the singles to the ASIC's. If for 10BFL's @3200 Mhz/s you get 1 ASIC boards @ 7200 Mhz/s the output of this bond will also dubble (effectively making it a 2 Mhz/s bond).
This would make this bond one of the most future proof mining assets to own imo. 
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Due to a rise in BTC vs USD price since the IPO was priced, I have decreased the offering to 0.27BTC/share.  

Initial IPO investors have received a special Bitcoin distribution in the amount of 0.02BTC/share to compensate for the newly lowered offering.

After the 1st day of trading, 212 seats have been sold.
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I thought you ran a very tight ship with MergedMining and were very quick to reply to any questions.

I will be buying some shares as I trust you will do just as well, if not better, with NastyMining.

 
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Any IPO price idea?

The IPO has been tentatively priced at 0.29BTC/share.

As we own the hardware will it payout more compared to 100% PPS?

Nasty Mining is focused on growing multiple avenues of obtaining Bitcoin and is not a mining bond tied to a specific hashrate.  For that reason, I suspect it will payout significantly higher than the PPS of a specified share of the current hashrate.
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Subbing. Got 2 questions?

Any IPO price idea and as we own the hardware will it payout more compared to 100% PPS.
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When do you expect to have the BFL's to start paying a dividend?

The first Bitcoin distribution will be made on July 21st, 2012.
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When do you expect to have the BFL's to start paying a dividend?
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What hardware are you using?

The hardware purchased for this organization is made up of ASICs from the following manufacturers:
Spondoolies
Bitmain
Butterfly Labs
CoinTerra
Black Arrow
Alpha Technology
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What hardware are you using?
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this is amazing btw good job !
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good will look more into it and decide
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