Topic: NastyMining $14K+ / 140oz .999 Silver Coin Giveaway! (Read 1340 times)

I'm still awaiting quite a few addresses for the winners of this giveaway...  If you haven't received your coin, please make sure that you have checked with nonnakip to make sure that you have provided the requested information.  I sent out the coins to addresses I received immediately, so if you haven't received yours please double check that you've provided your address.  I had all these coins engraved and ready to go so people could get them quickly!  I want to get you your prizes as that was my intent with this giveaway and don't want to do any more auctions for new buyers until the winners have been sent their winnings!

The first auction from this giveaway is underway now here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ended-nastyfans-minted-seats-from-giveaway-5342882

This is for coins won by seats held by NastyMining as a result of our recent buyback.  These coins will be sold (I put in starting bids to make sure) this weekend and the funds will be sent to NastyMining's holdings.  This will help restore funds that were spent on the giveaway, which is pretty cool.  Once these are all sold, I will be able to auction coins won by Minted Seats with funds being distributed to the "Minted Seats Collective" as nonnakip calls it.  Then once enough time has passed I will do a final auction of coins that went unclaimed by winners which will have proceeds distributed to all NastyFans seats.  

Would be nice if you could explain the difference between a minted seat holder and an online seat holder who both have accounts registered. How can you prove who one is but not the other?

This is far from flawless - flawless would mean 100% satisfaction with the results and you do not have that.

Either way - you won’t explain it is my guess as it’s been asked several times and you simply skirt the question and  state we should have voted without explaining how we could have voted or for those that bought minted seats after whenever this vote was done.

I like the coins and simply would have preferred to have a coin had I won. I realize 100% satisfaction is never possible in any endeavor. And this is no exception.

In that case, we are lucky you were not the one doing this giveaway. If you don’t understand, please respect that a wide majority of voters that do understand agreed this was the best way to do it.

I’m quite happy that everything went flawlessly with the lottery, the coins are all engraved and ready to go, and I’ve gotten quite a bit of positive feedback. Now to get these beauties in the hands of winners. Make sure to check your online account and claim your prizes!

I still don’t understand how or why minted seats are treated differently than online seats - especially if the minted seats are attached to accounts on the site - this part about having to peel the coin to prove we own it makes zero sense - I mean you got a list to compare to? Have us sign from the address?  What do you do to prove ownership of the online seats? Let me guess, they have accounts registered on the site… anyone else see the fallacy here?

Thank you! They look great!

I'm planning to auction the coins on this site.  Not sure exactly when yet, but it will be soon.  I'll then take all the BTC raised and send it to nonnakip, who will distribute it to the Minted Seat addresses.  I assume this will trigger some payouts as Minted Seats close to their threshold are pushed over, but for many they will be able to see the distribution amount reflected in their coin's total here: https://nastyfans.org/mint.json - as well as I'm sure we'll get an update from nonnakip about the amounts distributed.

I have been busy this week...  Here are the spoils.  All 100 Minted Seat coins ready to go out to the winners!

Congratulations to all the winners,Thanks to OgNasty and Nonnaki for making this possible .. I also have a question. How will it be distributed for those with minted seats winners , I understand that the coins will be auctioned but I would like to know where ..? or how will we know how will be the distribution thanks.

Dang, didn't win.
If anyone doesn't want their winning coin, I'm happy to provide my address to ship to 
Congrats to all winners.
Thanks OgNasty for such a big giveaway.
Geo

Log in at nastyfans.org to see if any of your online seats were winners.  Get your mailing info sent in and I can start shipping these bad boys out.  Would love to see some pics when they start arriving in mailboxes!  Thanks to those who participated.  It's always great to have support and I'd love to keep finding new ways to give back.  I can't wait to hear the feedback once this is all behind us and all the coins are out the door.  If you didn't win, keep your eye out for auctions as I'll need to sell the coins won by Minted Seats to provide a special donation for all Minted Seats and plan to do so on this forum.  I hope to have some pics of this massive Minted Seat haul soon.  Back to the engraver...

You'd have to go through all the entries, not the winners.  Pics can be faked anyway so that was never a realistic option due to the human element and lack of transparency involved.  I could only imagine the cries of foul play if we did do it that way...  I'm confident we are doing it the best and most transparent way possible for everyone involved.  Judging from the wide margin of % that the giveaway passed the poll by, I am not alone. 

I hope everyone enjoyed the long holiday weekend of remembrance. 

I've been busy engraving rounds this morning and plan to spend most of my week doing so.  We'll see how many hours I can throw at it today, but hopefully I get some good pics out of this to show. 

why hundreds? only 100 can win. and I was not a seat owner when whatever vote you are talking about - or where that vote even was. I am simply asking questions because anyone with common sense can see it is no harder to confirm a minted seat owner as an online seat owner.  It is not rocket science nor is it difficult to prove (edit) validate who owns a seat - especially if they are trying to claim the lottery win.

both require that you know who owns that seat in order for you to mail them a coin that you are giving away.

with a minted seat, it is very simple to prove if they have it -takes all of a few seconds. with an online seat, yes they have an account and can prove it is their account. I am also betting that many of the minted seat owners also have an account and can also easily verify that the seat is theirs.

and speaking of transparency - can you explain how the winner is selected? I know you are using a block but how is the lottery ticket number derived from the block? The last several sequential numbers in the block hash? the first 5 or 6 numbers?

We literally chose to do the giveaway this way so that this wouldn’t be an issue. If you own the private key, you’ll get to share in the rewards as a group. If you don’t, you can’t. The way you suggested with photos and human verification can be gamed, but the private keys can’t. I hope that makes more sense to you now that this is the most fair, honest, and transparent way to do it, which is why we are doing it this way.

That’s an idea you could have suggested before we voted on and passed the way to do it that we decided on. I’m not sure who you expect to go through hundreds of photos to verify this, or if you’d trust the human element, but I prefer the transparent method that was chosen personally. In any event, the NastyFans seat owners have spoken with their votes, so criticism at this point isn’t really constructive. This proposal was open for votes for a month and discussed prior to that for some time, particularly in our slack chat group where fans helped to form the way the proposal was made. It also passed with a very high % of vote, so while this might not be the way every member wanted to do it, it was preferred by a vast majority. Having a larger ownership stake would be the way to have a bigger influence on future polls or you have to accept the majority vote.

FYI, y'all - Nastyfans is the longest running BTC proven scam/ponzi in history. Now you see the light as well..

Edit  - graphs & numbers dont' really lie, but og does.

http://web.archive.org/web/20180825232210/http://minifrij.com/nasty/

that makes zero sense and is not the only way to prove it. the seat is linked on our account or no? Mine is.

If a minted seat owner wins, they could simply provide a picture of their coin with their forum user name and the current date and provide that to you - would that not prove they have the seat?

so let me ask this - an online seat owner wins - how do you know who that is? how do you keep someone from falsely claiming that the seat that won is theirs?  Do you keep information on who all the online seat owners are?

I can understand if the person never creates an account on the site and never links the seat to them. but about those that do?

It’s really simple. In order to definitively prove that you own a minted seat you would have to peel the coin and that is not something that I wanted to force people to do since it would destroy the collector value. This was what was chosen as the best possible solution and it was voted on and approved so that is what we did. If a different solution would have been presented and voted on as the way to do it, that’s what we would have done.

why if the winner is a minted seat holder they do not get the coin if they win?

why would the coin only go to someone if they are not a minted seat holder? seems like it is a slap in the face to those that paid for both a seat and a coin instead of just paying for a seat.

edited to add an additional question:


 It says tickets "1-2822" are assigned to minted seats.

when I log in to the website I see:

lottery tickets for block 686117
1-2955 (minted seat collective group)

So is it 1 thru 2822 or is it 1 thru 2955?

Also, I am still perplexed at why minted seat owners do not actually get their own ticket vs being tossed into one group. Well except whoever bought the 1000 seater coin, I guess they spent enough on that coin to get "counted" while anyone else that bought a coin is being considered second rate here.

Seems odd that someone who possibly spent more money (as they purchased a seat and a coin) gets less of a reward than the person who simply bought an online seat.

Excuse everyone, I know this is not the post to discuss this but I sent you a message regarding poker chips.

I dont have fancy coins or anything like that  but I do sell poker chips wallets that are branded with with my logo on one side and a private key and holo on the other side. I chose to use poker chips to make a functional yet affordable wallet that people could use and afford to give away - they are sold as DIY but for several customers, which has amounted to several hundred of the chips, I have generated vanity addresses and applied them to the chips for the customers. I use an airgapped laptop that runs the vanitygen - it generates the address/key combination on screen which I convert both to QR codes and print them out - I do not save the address/key combinations and as I dont output them to a file there is nothing to save anyways - once I close the command window they are gone. I also have generated vanity addresses for a couple people who bought the AlpenCoin rolls. I have even 3d printed items and applied priv keys under a holo to them that are linked to vanity addresses.  I have not done any over 7-8 characters.

The one thing I have not done is have a way to also display the public address on the coin/poker chip itself - the last few jobs I have done I started using holo's that have a window in them, this allows me to put the priv key facing in and the pub key facing out in the window.  I would like to move to where I am engraving them though.  I am a very small operation though but hoping to grow over time.