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March 21, 2016, 04:04:59 AM
#71

Before we need to discuss
1.Russian genocide on Kazakhs, Tatars,

 Crimerians.

1. How many people died in Siberia?

1. How many died by hunger?

4. Do not open new discuss topic with your bloody hands

Wow.
Give me
1. the numbers and
2. the cause of detentions, and
3. Who was in government in USSR, and what connection it have to Russians.


I'm Ready to hear Your version of Story щаCrimea settlement in last 2500 Years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea

4. Who You f#cking Are to teach me what to do?
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March 21, 2016, 03:52:04 AM
#70
Who will discuss the Turkish - Bulgarian and Turkish-Greek issues, please open a new topic.
Is there a list of countries who recognise the turkish-armenian relations as Genocide?
Before we need to discuss Russian genocide on Kazakhs, Tatars, Crimerians. How many people died in Siberia? How many died by hunger? Do not open new discuss topic with your bloody hands
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March 21, 2016, 03:17:53 AM
#69
Who will discuss the Turkish - Bulgarian and Turkish-Greek issues, please open a new topic.
Is there a list of countries who recognise the turkish-armenian relations as Genocide?
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March 21, 2016, 02:24:21 AM
#68
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.
I think you have a very very big problem with turks, coleman! A personal problem
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March 20, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
#67
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.
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March 20, 2016, 03:43:31 PM
#66
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.
So, then why do you claim that they are rightful on that land? Turkey has no problem with kurds but PKK, terrorist group.

Not the entire land, just a parts of it (not sure which). I have asked you once and will try again: Where are you from?
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March 20, 2016, 02:59:44 PM
#65
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.
So, then why do you claim that they are rightful on that land? Turkey has no problem with kurds but PKK, terrorist group.
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March 20, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
#64
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.
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March 20, 2016, 02:08:01 PM
#63

It's an interesting point of view... To bad there is to much politics involved in any war (including this one).

This is a try story of NATO country direct military attacks, coordinated in time and place with ISIS on anti ISIS Kurdish Militaries.
What for shit type of NATO politic is this, not due the difference.
The Shit of be "ISIS military ally" is clear.

A NATO country is a ISIS military ally, and in this is a proof.

In other words, Nato commanders are giving orders to kill their own people, because by helping isis, they later will kill people in europe.

Maybe now is the turn they are triying to use this Steve Jackson illuminati game card
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March 20, 2016, 01:50:09 PM
#62
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical
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March 19, 2016, 04:51:59 PM
#61
NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact.

Wow. This is Hot.
Put please the data of NATO fundation and look about Warsaw Pact data fundation, and You will have a surprise.

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March 19, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
#60
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not.

That's not entirely correct, though I see your point (again). Will not try to argue about that, because I must point some facts (according to me), which not everybody will like.

Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past.

Like I said - I'm not sure about the first part. Quick research (3 mins.. it's not serious, I know) resulted that there was a region called "Corduene" ("Kingdom of Corduene", 60 BC), which can be connected with the kurds. Basically (according to that "research"), the kurds lives in that region for at least 2000+ years. I will not say more, because you definitely know more on the subject, but you are also obviously part from one of the sides (Turkey), so please allow me not to accept your opinion as correct one.

About the second part, I couldn't agree more! Kurds are basically illiterate people, but so does the indigenous people of USA, Australia, New Zealand etc. (you get my point). It's not like we are living back in those days, but do you think you have the right to take the apartment of your neighbour just because he's illiterate or stupid? Otherwise, I understand you completely! I'm not racist of any kind, but kurds (mostly) are like the gypsies (at least the ones, which I am facing every single day here in Bulgaria) - they lie, beg, steal and will do everything they can to take what they want (even if it's $0.000001).

For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country.

I'm not supporting them in ANY WAY! Watch this and tell me if you think he's right! Some people may decide that he was defending his country. Others may think that among those 40+ peope he killed, there are probably innocent victims.

Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?

Here we are talking about people who are killing other people. Drug dealers (with acquiescence from the governments) are making vast profits from vices and weaknesses of the people. They say: "It's not like I am forcing them to do drugs." and that's it. They don't care if someone dies in front of them, because "it's not their fault". Same "people" are the ones who are producing weapons, make wars, make forced labour, human trafficking, slavery etc... How about if you have a wife and 2 children, someone takes them (God forbid!!!) and tells you:
- Here, drive that car and crash it in that building!
How would you react? What if you do it? People will just call you terrorist. Are you terrorist in that case? Of course, it's not necessarily to be in that way. I agree that illiterate people would do it for $100 (or even less), but my point is that people are killing each other and dying from countless of deceases, while governments are f*cking us (dead or alive). There are illiterate and crazy human beings, which are capable of doing pretty much everything bad in this world, but in general... terrorists are created by the governments. Period. Do you understand?  
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March 19, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
#59
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
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March 19, 2016, 01:37:51 PM
#58
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.
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March 19, 2016, 12:59:06 PM
#57
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?

Not sure if you're trolling and know why but I'll explain it for those who don't know.

Kurdish help with the ISIS situation, yes. But PKK are also terrorists themselves. Just because a terrorist kills a terrorist from a different group doesn't mean they're now a good person. There has been a lot of PKK suicide bombing in Turkey now. Kurds are basically in a war with Turkey to get their own land, it is really pathetic, they are nothing compared with the Turkish military. But they still keep trying. Now we have people who don't know anything trying to sympathize with the Kurds and yell at Turkish military for killing them. They ARE terrorists and they should be killed to prevent killing of innocents. I am Turkish and I know how most Kurds are. A lot of them if you meet them are really nice to your face and everything but when they're talking on there own they root for the PKK Kurds. Also a lot of Kurds are beggers on the streets, they have no dignity or ambition to go and find work. I saw a "homeless" old woman Kurd on the street and after coming back to go into the car she was still sitting there but with an Ice Slush. Shouldn't she be buying water or cheap food to survive?

Moral of the story is, Kurds want their own land but can't pay for it and so they kill innocent people. But they also kill ISIS and so UK and US people think they should be supported. To support them is 100% retarded.
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March 19, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
#56
NATO = ISIS, it's so obvious it screams

That's not true. There are a lot of small countries (such as mine, Bulgaria) who are also part of NATO (whether I like it or not...). You have no clue on how we are looking at ISIS in general...
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March 19, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
#55
NATO = ISIS, it's so obvious it screams
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March 19, 2016, 11:27:34 AM
#54
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.

NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw pact was disbanded almost three decades ago, and many of its former members are now part of the NATO (DDR, Poland, Romania, Hungary.etc). It should have been disbanded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. But the Americans thought that they could use NATO as a tool to dominate the Europeans.

^
This!
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March 19, 2016, 11:11:19 AM
#53
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.

NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw pact was disbanded almost three decades ago, and many of its former members are now part of the NATO (DDR, Poland, Romania, Hungary.etc). It should have been disbanded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. But the Americans thought that they could use NATO as a tool to dominate the Europeans.
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March 19, 2016, 09:59:34 AM
#52
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.
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