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Quote from: Joca97 on June 16, 2023, 08:03:15 PM

Jokic is currently by far the best player in the NBA league. What he brought to this league is insane and how much he improved over the years is just spectaular. If he wasnt playing for Denver i dont think that team would even reach the playoffs. What is impresive is that he dosent get injured and he plays so casual it looks like its nothing for him. He didnt get the regular season MVP but if he just repeats the same style in the next season he will win the MVP too easily. Its still shocking how they shooted so badly for three and Miami just wasnt able to take advantage of that and win the series. NBA scouts will look closely now because Jokic was a chubby guy from Serbia that is now the best player in the world and we might see new players similar to him real time soon.

Jokic is definitely the best right now, but based on what I've noticed from NBA over the years there will start to be distinct measure that will limit Jokic abilities overtime, but then that doesn't mean it will always work out but Jokic will always have to improvise and become a better version of himself over and over again to be able to keep the same level of dominance of a long period of time, but greatness by all margin is what he's achieved so and with consistent good work ethic, he should be able keep up at this level for a few years more at the barest minimum.

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And so with that, with this new era of basketball for big, it's very different and Jokic is the embodiment of this era. With Dirk he can shoot outside but doesn't have the passing ability of the European players right now in the NBA.

We may indeed see more European players in the future, as Jokic has caught the attention of scouts. His passion for the sport is evident, as he gives his all to win games without demanding much in return. If Jokic were a one-man show relying solely on his skills, I doubt they would stand a chance against the Heat in the NBA Finals. However, his improved ability to pass the ball makes his team incredibly dangerous.

Therefore, despite the team's poor shooting from the three-point range according to statistics in the Finals, they still deserve all the success they have achieved.

Jokic is currently by far the best player in the NBA league. What he brought to this league is insane and how much he improved over the years is just spectaular. If he wasnt playing for Denver i dont think that team would even reach the playoffs. What is impresive is that he dosent get injured and he plays so casual it looks like its nothing for him. He didnt get the regular season MVP but if he just repeats the same style in the next season he will win the MVP too easily. Its still shocking how they shooted so badly for three and Miami just wasnt able to take advantage of that and win the series. NBA scouts will look closely now because Jokic was a chubby guy from Serbia that is now the best player in the world and we might see new players similar to him real time soon.

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many folks have said that he (Jokic) brought the playing style of Europe towards the NBA.

And the truth is that from other region are the ones that's dominating the NBA on its own land.

When I saw one article about how the Miami Heat was defeated twice by a European, it made me smile. Dirk Nowitzki and Nikola Jokic. Truly, the NBA today is changing, thanks to the Europeans that had been coming into the league. Who knows, maybe Doncic is next. Another player who plays differently from other players. No such thing as the "hops" or "speed" but he can definitely score inside by only using his brain and his strong body. Vice versa of Ja Morant who is relying upon his speed and hops.

Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

It just seems that the NBA isn't marketing Jokic for some reason but it's good that these Europeans have made a lot of changes to NBA's basketball.
Whilst those teams aren't focused on having a big man that can do almost everything, shoot outside, assist, get free-throw shooting, rebounds. Almost everything.
The Nuggets is so blessed to have Joker and they've managed to take care of him until they've finally got their first ever NBA title.

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Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

Jokic would easily win the regular season MVP next season because he can easily generate triple-double stats. As long as he is healthy, the Nuggets will once again reach the NBA Finals. However, in the Eastern Conference, I don't think it will be the Heat, unless they upgrade their roster.

Shaq can be dominant inside but does not have the same shooting ability, especially from the free-throw line. On the other hand, Jokic is a complete package as a big man, capable of scoring, passing, and rebounding. He is also a great three-point shooter, with a possibly higher percentage than Curry.

Shaq was dominant in his time, but it's challenging to directly compare him to the era of Jokic. This is because big men in today's NBA have already learned how to shoot, at least to some extent, as it has become a requirement even if they aren't as dominant physically. When Jokic entered the NBA, he was considered an ordinary player, but as he stayed with his team, his game developed, and he built great chemistry with his teammates.

If we look at Jokic's stats from the 2015-2016 season when he started, we can see a significant improvement in his game currently.y with his teammates.

Looking at his stats when he started in 2015-2016 season, there's already a huge improvement currently.

source : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jokicni01.html

In Jokic's rookie years, he was already making a difference to the team which made the franchise do a risky move that made him a center even if he wasn't that well soaked in the league yet as he was still rookie but instead of having an opposite outcome, the Nuggets did seem right for making that risky move because eventually, Nikola Jokic were like a gravity for the team where the whole play was moving around him up until they come to this point where their hardwork indeed paid off after a long bumpy road in the recent seasons.

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Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

Jokic would easily win the regular season MVP next season because he can easily generate triple-double stats. As long as he is healthy, the Nuggets will once again reach the NBA Finals. However, in the Eastern Conference, I don't think it will be the Heat, unless they upgrade their roster.

Shaq can be dominant inside but does not have the same shooting ability, especially from the free-throw line. On the other hand, Jokic is a complete package as a big man, capable of scoring, passing, and rebounding. He is also a great three-point shooter, with a possibly higher percentage than Curry.

Different era, we can't compare the two, and Jokic style of playing is more of a European obviously, and so they are teach to shoot from the outside regardless of their height. That's why when Jokic move to the NBA, he already have that shooting touch and passing ability. As compare to Shaq who really play low post back then and the only dominant big men in that era as no one can stop the diesel.

And so with that, with this new era of basketball for big, it's very different and Jokic is the embodiment of this era. With Dirk he can shoot outside but doesn't have the passing ability of the European players right now in the NBA.

It's quite obvious that in the past few seasons, Europian players have been dominating the league while the American players are quite on the back waiting for their turn because they just cannot outshine the superstars right now that mostly came from Europe. In every couple of years, the league became better and better and getting more interesting which mean that the era is changing in almost every passing year and that also mean that we cannot literally compare them as they are not in the same era. Just like the GOAT discussion and comparing the classing to modern, it's just impossible to compare it.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 16, 2023, 06:18:32 AM

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And so with that, with this new era of basketball for big, it's very different and Jokic is the embodiment of this era. With Dirk he can shoot outside but doesn't have the passing ability of the European players right now in the NBA.

We may indeed see more European players in the future, as Jokic has caught the attention of scouts. His passion for the sport is evident, as he gives his all to win games without demanding much in return. If Jokic were a one-man show relying solely on his skills, I doubt they would stand a chance against the Heat in the NBA Finals. However, his improved ability to pass the ball makes his team incredibly dangerous.

We've seen a lot of European players in the NBA already, but there are just a few exceptions like Jokic or Doncic, or even Giannis (although his style is very different), and prior to that Dirk Nowizki, who also has one of the deadliest shooting form that we have seen from Europeans.

Quote from: Distinctin on June 16, 2023, 06:18:32 AM

Therefore, despite the team's poor shooting from the three-point range according to statistics in the Finals, they still deserve all the success they have achieved.

Yes, but this opponent shot worst than them in 4 out of 5 games. Only in game 2 if I'm not mistaken that the Heat shot better. But after that, they rely on their outside shooting more but they are not hitting their shots.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 16, 2023, 06:10:47 AM

And so with that, with this new era of basketball for big, it's very different and Jokic is the embodiment of this era. With Dirk he can shoot outside but doesn't have the passing ability of the European players right now in the NBA.

We may indeed see more European players in the future, as Jokic has caught the attention of scouts. His passion for the sport is evident, as he gives his all to win games without demanding much in return. If Jokic were a one-man show relying solely on his skills, I doubt they would stand a chance against the Heat in the NBA Finals. However, his improved ability to pass the ball makes his team incredibly dangerous.

Therefore, despite the team's poor shooting from the three-point range according to statistics in the Finals, they still deserve all the success they have achieved.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 16, 2023, 03:46:33 AM

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Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

Jokic would easily win the regular season MVP next season because he can easily generate triple-double stats. As long as he is healthy, the Nuggets will once again reach the NBA Finals. However, in the Eastern Conference, I don't think it will be the Heat, unless they upgrade their roster.

Shaq can be dominant inside but does not have the same shooting ability, especially from the free-throw line. On the other hand, Jokic is a complete package as a big man, capable of scoring, passing, and rebounding. He is also a great three-point shooter, with a possibly higher percentage than Curry.

Different era, we can't compare the two, and Jokic style of playing is more of a European obviously, and so they are teach to shoot from the outside regardless of their height. That's why when Jokic move to the NBA, he already have that shooting touch and passing ability. As compare to Shaq who really play low post back then and the only dominant big men in that era as no one can stop the diesel.

And so with that, with this new era of basketball for big, it's very different and Jokic is the embodiment of this era. With Dirk he can shoot outside but doesn't have the passing ability of the European players right now in the NBA.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 16, 2023, 03:46:33 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 16, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

Jokic would easily win the regular season MVP next season because he can easily generate triple-double stats. As long as he is healthy, the Nuggets will once again reach the NBA Finals. However, in the Eastern Conference, I don't think it will be the Heat, unless they upgrade their roster.

Shaq can be dominant inside but does not have the same shooting ability, especially from the free-throw line. On the other hand, Jokic is a complete package as a big man, capable of scoring, passing, and rebounding. He is also a great three-point shooter, with a possibly higher percentage than Curry.

Shaq was dominant in his time, but it's challenging to directly compare him to the era of Jokic. This is because big men in today's NBA have already learned how to shoot, at least to some extent, as it has become a requirement even if they aren't as dominant physically. When Jokic entered the NBA, he was considered an ordinary player, but as he stayed with his team, his game developed, and he built great chemistry with his teammates.

If we look at Jokic's stats from the 2015-2016 season when he started, we can see a significant improvement in his game currently.y with his teammates.

Looking at his stats when he started in 2015-2016 season, there's already a huge improvement currently.

source : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jokicni01.html

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 16, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

Jokic would easily win the regular season MVP next season because he can easily generate triple-double stats. As long as he is healthy, the Nuggets will once again reach the NBA Finals. However, in the Eastern Conference, I don't think it will be the Heat, unless they upgrade their roster.

Shaq can be dominant inside but does not have the same shooting ability, especially from the free-throw line. On the other hand, Jokic is a complete package as a big man, capable of scoring, passing, and rebounding. He is also a great three-point shooter, with a possibly higher percentage than Curry.

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Quote from: blockman on June 15, 2023, 05:22:33 PM

Quote from: Japinat on June 15, 2023, 05:18:03 PM

Westbrook is not the same Westbrook anymore, there is a huge chance that Jokic will take his place, eventually, because the latter has now change the system in the game of basketball just like what Stephen Curry did when the Golden State was still on the height of their careers and now,

True.
Jokic has brought NBA to another level and this is what's gonna be observed by other teams they'll look at the formula of what the Nuggets did for obtaining this year's title.

Quote from: Japinat on June 15, 2023, 05:18:03 PM

many folks have said that he (Jokic) brought the playing style of Europe towards the NBA.

And the truth is that from other region are the ones that's dominating the NBA on its own land.

When I saw one article about how the Miami Heat was defeated twice by a European, it made me smile. Dirk Nowitzki and Nikola Jokic. Truly, the NBA today is changing, thanks to the Europeans that had been coming into the league. Who knows, maybe Doncic is next. Another player who plays differently from other players. No such thing as the "hops" or "speed" but he can definitely score inside by only using his brain and his strong body. Vice versa of Ja Morant who is relying upon his speed and hops.

Nikola Jokic changed the way we look at NBA and especially at the younger players who never saw how Magic, Bill, and Larry did it. It's almost like this, the Joker revived a strong big man, not like a "Shaq" big man but more of a versatile big man. And, I have no doubts Jokic will keep on passing more records from way back some of us were born.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 15, 2023, 05:18:03 PM

Westbrook is not the same Westbrook anymore, there is a huge chance that Jokic will take his place, eventually, because the latter has now change the system in the game of basketball just like what Stephen Curry did when the Golden State was still on the height of their careers and now,

True.
Jokic has brought NBA to another level and this is what's gonna be observed by other teams they'll look at the formula of what the Nuggets did for obtaining this year's title.

Quote from: Japinat on June 15, 2023, 05:18:03 PM

many folks have said that he (Jokic) brought the playing style of Europe towards the NBA.

And the truth is that from other region are the ones that's dominating the NBA on its own land.

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Might be hard to break WB's record though for triple double. I guess it's better for him to retain it for next year. But it's going to be hard to win back back as teams are going to upgrade their roster for sure.

Eventually, that record will be broken as Jokic continues to play with more confidence. Unlike Westbrook's record, which was mostly caused by stat-padding with little impact on the team's success, I bet that even if Westbrook returns to OKC, he will not generate that same level of triple-double consistency anymore, as he has already slowed down.

Westbrook is not the same Westbrook anymore, there is a huge chance that Jokic will take his place, eventually, because the latter has now change the system in the game of basketball just like what Stephen Curry did when the Golden State was still on the height of their careers and now, many folks have said that he (Jokic) brought the playing style of Europe towards the NBA.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 15, 2023, 04:27:33 PM

There are some factors that a team should consider first especially their health because a severe injury mainly in their superstar will literally make the team crumble as I think it is evident enough to see that Jokic cannot handle the team in his own just like Murray cannot handle the team.

I absolutely agree with you.
It's very difficult for them to win a championship without Murray and Jokic. Both players need to be healthy.
When Jokic or Murray are injured, they can't fill that void as a team.

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The first championship in history must be feeling magnificent for Nuggets. Cheesy

Jokic had another incredible game and it was nice to see in the game to seal the deal for his team by 4-1. He got 28 points and 16 rebounds firstly. However the most impressive statistics was his having 75% FG made - 12/16. On one hand Butler played quite poorly for Heat. 27% FG made is just horrible. He was much better than this before the final series. Heat really needed Butler to bounce back.

Herro didn't even play but like I said before this wouldn't have changed much thing anyway. Because he just returned from an injury.

Congratulations to Jokic and Nuggets!

Jokic is fun to watch. I can see Denver winning 3 or 4 championships with this team.

I don't think they can win 3-4 more championships, because there are better teams.
If they match like this, they can win, otherwise it's very difficult.

Jokic is a unique actor, everyone who watches it knows it.

It's not that impossible for them to do that and having their 1st championship did made things more possible to achieve in the few seasons to come but considering as well that they just got their first chip, it's quite premature to think about getting 3-4 championships just because they are a better team and probably much better than others just like how they finished top in the West while also giving a hard time for the teams in the East.

There are some factors that a team should consider first especially their health because a severe injury mainly in their superstar will literally make the team crumble as I think it is evident enough to see that Jokic cannot handle the team in his own just like Murray cannot handle the team.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 14, 2023, 06:37:05 PM

And for those who made a bet for the NBA champion. Congratulations to you guys.
Here is the odd of how much is it before the season ended or before the playoffs started.

8.50. It's not bad.

A significant multiplier for a team that finished in the number one spot in the West. It's evident that the Nuggets have been underestimated, which is why their wins rewarded bettors who trusted the team.

By the way, the odds for the NBA championship in the 2023-2024 season are already available. You can check them out here:

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/2023-24-nba-odds-every-teams-championship-title-futures

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Denver Nuggets +460 (bet $10 to win $56 total)
Milwaukee Bucks +460 (bet $10 to win $56 total)
Boston Celtics +500 (bet $10 to win $60 total)
Phoenix Suns +700 (bet $10 to win $80 total)
Golden State Warriors +1200 (bet $10 to win $130 total)

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So I've been trying to tally up my seasons wins amd losses and it's looking Dead even almost which I guess is a win lol. Had some really good stretches this year but nothing too crazy. Honestly won mostly with the Knicks this year did well with the jalen brunson props which were underestimated in the beginning of the year. Kind of sad basketball goes away for a little bit Sad

oh well bring on nfl!

I am right around the same area as you. I am kicking myself for not putting money on the game last night. I figured Denver would win, but I thought that getting 9 points was a good amount to want to take the Heat. That was my plan, but lost track of time and didn't end up getting a bet in.

It was a decent season of basketball gambling for me, but I'm with you, bring on the NFL! Lot of mini-camps opened today, can't wait.

Yes, same here, the line is there for us gamblers to take and win at least the last game in this season and take home some winnings. But I was not able to bet and didn't pull the trigger.

In any case, we have to wait then, 4 months of waiting, damn, I might also go and bet on other sports. Or at least a basketball game that is local to us or even collegiate as well. And with that Nuggets win, congrats to those who follow them throughout this series.

Yeah I'm still kicking myself for not betting. I didn't bet a whole lot over the entirety of the playoffs, but the few times I did I did pretty well because I had a pretty good feeling how those games might play out. I just wish I had been more aggressive as I was definitely more right than wrong overt the course of the playoffs.

I'm not sure where you're from, but if you're not in to it already, you should try betting NFL. I mean it requires you to pay attention to it, but it's a great game and by far the biggest game bet on here in the United States.

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Quote from: Sims25 on June 14, 2023, 12:13:17 AM

Jokic is fun to watch. I can see Denver winning 3 or 4 championships with this team.

I am thinking 2 or 3 only because somewhere in the future another super team will be created just to defeat them. The Bucks might add more strength to their shooters and with their new head coach Adrian Griffin, things might change for them.
There's also the Phoenix Suns who are fully loaded with stars, it's just a matter of chemistry before they go to the Western Conference Finals too which I think will give the Nuggets a hard time.

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For me, it's just for my records. In FIBA basketball before, I made a post about how much I won and lost because the games are not that many so I can just use the records on Stake.com to browse my history.
But in NBA, there are too many games, and browsing all the records will take me maybe 2 or 3 days before I can copy all my records to a spreadsheet. Cheesy

And for those who made a bet for the NBA champion. Congratulations to you guys.
Here is the odd of how much is it before the season ended or before the playoffs started.

8.50. It's not bad.

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Quote from: Sims25 on June 14, 2023, 12:13:17 AM

Quote from: Distraction on June 13, 2023, 02:27:19 PM

The first championship in history must be feeling magnificent for Nuggets. Cheesy

Jokic had another incredible game and it was nice to see in the game to seal the deal for his team by 4-1. He got 28 points and 16 rebounds firstly. However the most impressive statistics was his having 75% FG made - 12/16. On one hand Butler played quite poorly for Heat. 27% FG made is just horrible. He was much better than this before the final series. Heat really needed Butler to bounce back.

Herro didn't even play but like I said before this wouldn't have changed much thing anyway. Because he just returned from an injury.

Congratulations to Jokic and Nuggets!

Jokic is fun to watch. I can see Denver winning 3 or 4 championships with this team.

I don't think they can win 3-4 more championships, because there are better teams.
If they match like this, they can win, otherwise it's very difficult.

Jokic is a unique actor, everyone who watches it knows it.

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All things considered I think the final game of the NBA season went as it should have and gamblers should be happy. You had to think the Nuggets would win at home and if you bet on that then you were a winner. The spread and the Heat having their backs against the wall also made the Heat + 7.5 a good bet to make and the one that I would have chosen. Both bets were winners and I imagine those were the two most popular bets made by basketball watchers, so all is well that ends well. Now when can we start betting on Stake about where players will end up once the trades start kicking off.

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