Topic: Need to adjust my trust list (Read 640 times)

A belated welcome back. With the way the trust system works identifying obvious scammers or dubious accounts should be pretty straightforward. I think the Scam Accusations and Reputation board are two place you can look through just to gauge opinions. If you see red tags it might be worthwhile for you to read through the trust before deciding to exclude or exclude. Other than that, you might receive more replies here with specific cases or controversies.

Well, if you were a true contributor, which I believe you are somehow, not always, but even though you are vengeful person, I have said this before that you have contributed to this community, only if you could keep your personal feelings apart from other things. Now if there is anything that needs to be known, it's your duty to the community you have tried so hard to protect to reveal any shenanigans happening behind the closed doors.

So you are either accusing him, or have proof to back this claim up, I won't rely on anyone here though, it seems money can shut people's mouth, a big surprise.

Vod also might want to know about DT manipulators, not that any thing matters any more, here people do everything and nobody questions them, but when you do the questioning, the result will be = troll, liar, scammer. Just ignore. Lol

Feel free to cry all you want about me in my reputation thread.

It shows he doesn't use his Trust list to retaliate on those users. Why would you even bring that up?

Time to get out the cough mixture...


Given it wasn't that long ago you sent me a barrage of PM's *cough* suggesting I comply with your plans to manipulate the DT system - then distrusted me when I choose not to - I take your above statement to be a complement and wear it as a badge of honour.

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You left out the


and yet he's staying eerily quiet in this thread yet will jump on others to correct their misleading comments about his "guide"

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As to Vod's trust list - he might "trust" some users, but they choose not to trust him.

https://loyce.club/trust/2023-12-16_Sat_05.07h/30747.html


As it is Vod was trusting SiNeReiNZzz, however, SiNeReiNZzz had already chosen to distrust Vod.  (so now they distrust each other)

I was and I never trusted Yogg - he seemed shady to me.   I think I have a pretty good judgement system, seeing as only 1 of my trustees turned out to be a scammer.

Yes, and thank you to GazetaBitcoin for verifying that.  For whatever reason, usernames drop right off my neuronal radar when they disappear, assuming they haven't made a big impact on me or the community.  Yogg and those charity scammers were ones I didn't know well, but in any case I don't think Vod has any of them on his trust list.  And the Coldkey scam is something Vod might have been aware of anyway.

This is correct.

As a plus, the charity scam involved these users: cabalism13, crwth and bl4nkcode - topic Bitcointalk Charity and its funds.
Besides, figmentofmyass was caught cheating CM campaign for years in a row using multiple accounts.
And Dabs defaulted 2 loans - one of 0.605 BTC and one of 16.800$.

I believe the username of the user that pulled off the Coldkey Scam was Yogg

Yet. Not on a campaign yet.

But that's his ultimate goal, to regain his lost on Rollbit through signature campaign, so I guess the aim was to chase merit to rank-up. I was overseeing his case v. rollbit from the beginning, so I'm kinda familiar with the case [not with the deal, though, I think it's made behind the screen?].

And yes, been watching him since he firstly emerge on this forum, I have to say that his choice of boards are rather... uncanny for a newbie, so does several of his posts.

Of course!  I just asked for help in identifying obvious scammers, so I wouldn't support any baddies until I had time to fully come up to speed.

Although from first glance I can understand the post count stuff, I actually tried to put effort. I already knew it would be dumb to just go back on my word after saying I would do something so I tried. I hadn't made a post all day because I was trying to complete what I started here. Willing to send you what I had so far in PMs if you need proof (2k words). Doesn't matter much though because it's not good at the end of the day but still that was not an attempt to raise post count. If I didn't actually try then wouldn't this all be considered spamming?

Lol, I saw that post and it brought me back to the pre-merit system era when you'd see idiotic things being written just like that, except that ineedhelpplease isn't in a campaign or bounty.  Guess he's just trying to boost his post count or something.  See, Vod?  Some things just never change around here.

Thankfully since you've been away, there haven't been too many reputable members who've turned into scammers.  I can't recall usernames, but there was that charity scam a while back, the Coldkey scam in the Collectibles section, and maybe a couple of others.  I'm sure that doesn't help, but I thought I'd just mention it if anyone remembers the details/names.

You asked the other members to help you edit your trust list. I would say that the trust list is quite a personal matter and should depend exclusively on your judgment about other members. It can help you if someone points out a certain user and his possible "sins", but the final assessment is still up to you.
In the end, you'll have to do it yourself, checking one by one off your list.

This has gone off topic; I don't want to lock the thread.

Best to argue in PMs if you want to go any further since I've sent you the message of what I had written already. Or make a separate thread so it doesn't argue all over this thread and just link this one in your new thread (which I don't want to spend all night responding to as its 1:39 AM my time so please don't.)


And okay, I will read it when I have the energy to, probably tomorrow.

My eyes are bleeding when I see enormous quotes with no use. No matter if you are a newbie or not, would you just read this topic? TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

And also delete the immense quote from your above post (or keep only what's relevant to be quoted). Seriously, don't your eyes hurt you when you watch that monstrosity?


And from there you jumped directly into the Reputation board and you started to sort things out for all forum / user issues, right? That's so sweet of you! Perhaps you will be nominated Newbie of the year, just like Ratimov? Look, I am sorry for your loss, but all these actions you make -- especially inside Reputation board and towards issues you should not be aware of even in 6 months from now on¹⁾ -- only make you look shady. And I see you insist on it. The more you insist the more shady you will look like.

¹⁾And by that I did not mean that you don't deserve to be aware of, but the fact that's simply too much information for someone new to be able to comprehend even in six months, not to mention only since end of October and until present. I'm reading even now, years later after I joined the forum, about issues from the past which I am not aware of. Instead, you act like you were here since forever and you know everything about all possible subjects / disputes / issues / dramas etc. Like you know everything about anything.

No need to be disrespectful about it i'll just PM you what I had which wasn't super useful at the end of the day but was still alot. I only cared because I agreed to it, so I wanted to finish what I agreed to starting. Trying was better than nothing for me and I still learned alot regardless. Obviously I'm no expert and I'm sure most of this forum is better anyways. It was fun at first but got tiring as time went on and I have a life

At the end of the day if you think I'm not new then okay. You can thank Rollbit Razer for making me lose thousands of dollars which lead me to search "rollbit bad reviews" or similar search terms which brought me here.

Oh really! Is that your new approach for trying to prove you are new here?


I highly doubt that an investigation on 78 users made by someone which joined the forum less than 2 months ago -- if you are really new here -- would be useful. And I'd really not care to read such an investigation done by someone which only pretends to be new, for who knows what reasons he has.


Oh, such dedication... Perhaps it would be better just to follow nutildah's advice?



Oh you care so much for Vod's Trust list! This is really touching.

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LOL!

That's good to note, thank you for pointing that out. It's a shame that he won't ever get his account back. I thought he just reclaimed ownership and went back to being inactive until this was posted.

I also came across several other inactive users on Vod's trust list, who weren't compromised or anything but were inactive for an extended period of time(like 2-5 years)so I had them noted in what I wrote to verify ownership if they ever came back actively and behaved suspiciously.

His account was been locked, so it's best to assume the account is inactive forever. Now if Vod think Legendster wasn't leaving inappropriate feedback, Vod doesn't have to remove him since inactive account that leaving appropriate feedback is good for the forum.

You present a good point. That's what I quickly realized when I started this. 78 different users is way too much, especially for a new user. I also realized it was quite late so I went to bed soon after I posted that. I had a much longer post originally, detailing how exactly I would at least try to investigate users and who would specifically be investigated but stopped because I think my mental health matters more (I can dm you what I had so far if you want I don't think it really matters though)

I've spent the past 10 hours worrying about all this and it's quite stressing simply due to time spent. I've learned alot about why Vod chose many of these users on his trust list though and came across some really good investigation tactics on how users found cheaters as well as hilarious people, etc.

So far this is the most suspicious account I've seen throughout the 78 users on his list.

The account "Legendster"

The original owner isn't a scammer, fraud or anything suspicious but the original owner has been inactive since late 2019(verified by himself here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57932688)

Vod quit somewhere in like, mid 2021. This event all took place during Late 2021, after he quit. During late 2021, the Legendster account was compromised, which he confirmed here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/someone-had-access-to-my-account-last-month-please-beware-5359778)

Since he isn't hacked (anymore for now) he can stay on his list. Seeing that the original owner quit in late 2019 and hasn't made a real return ever since then, It's best to assume that if If this account ever becomes active and does any suspicious activity such as asking for non-collateral loans then I recommend trying to prove that it's actually the OG owner using one of the old addresses as shown by the post made by examplens (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/someone-had-access-to-my-account-last-month-please-beware-5359778.msg57931591#msg57931591).

I wouldn't bother as there's no way you could possibly be able to do this if the story you provided in the other thread was true. Its unwise for a new member to dive straight into reputational matters on the forum. There's a lot of nuances of which you are unaware. Plus it makes you seem like you're not actually a new member.


Maybe its tuberculosis, they should probably get tested.

Lol.

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I can see you have the most legit DT member on your list, you know the one who'd always start a feedback with "BEWARE", anyone having such tags is %100 a scammer 🤥🤥🤥, my nose is annoying me sometimes.😅

Despairo coughed, you quoted ineedhelpplease.   

You are probably the most controversial person here on the forum...lol.

Speaking of me, the trust is for a person's evaluation of their trust feedback - not for personal vendettas.

I'm sure LoyceV will be along shortly to remind you all of that.

And how exactly are you going to do that, considering that your account was created less than 2 months ago? Perhaps you already read all forum thus you know who is scammer and who isn't? And ypu also know very well when a red tag was given incorrectly, thus it is irellevant and when it was deserved?

I am all ears to hear about your vast expertise earned in such a short amount of time.

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

I see, thank you. I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

Based on your current trust list the obvious scammer is only SiNeReiNZzz as he was defaulting a loan.

You just need to pay attention with user who received negative feedback because account with negative feedback is a scammer, although there are some users leaving negative feedback because of personal conflict *cough.

He didn't include Ratimov.

Where exactly do you see a users trust list? From recent news Ratimov/Symmetrick seems to be very untrustworthy since people claimed the owner sold his account. If he is there then he should be removed for now.

Hi all,

I've been away from the forum for a couple years, and I understand several people I trusted turned out to be scammers.  I don't have any details, so if anyone notices anyone on my trust list that should not be there, please let me know.